Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

[quote]tofmik wrote:
Hi Shadow,

I went through the older threads and I want to ask you what would you like better for strength.

test-e and then you mention that anadrol and dbol together both on low dosage is better then higer dosage one of them or just use halo? which you like better then anadrol?

Thank you[/quote]

It really depends in what levels you’re at and how much you’re willing to risk your health. If water retention and weight gain are not an issue for you then I would probably pick a combo of test, dbol and halo. If water retention is an issue I might go with something like halo and oral tren. Anadrol is good but for the most part people have more side effects from it ( being lathargic & lack of appetite etc.). It’s not that it doesn’t do it’s job but it just comes with a price.

Some athletes take all of these in the same cycle. Crazy mother fuckers!

Test suspension pre workout is another good choice for strength. With all of these you need to make sure you aren’t becoming toxic or you’ll experience reverse effects.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:
Hi ! Currently doing second cycle of test e , deca and dbol.
wk 1-3 750mg test e
wk 5-15 500mg test e
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 8-12 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-10 400mg deca EW

PCT: wk 17-wk25 of nolva 20mg ED

can u please critique my cycle? Thanks ![/quote]

I would also add HCG and nolvadex throughout the cycle. 2 full bottles of AlphaMale in the pct (double recommended dosage each day)

I’m assuming you’re planning on a mass cycle here? If so, this is a very basic cycle. Pay attention to your diet or you will experience a lot of extra water retention.[/quote]

Yes ! its a basic cycle because its only my second sir. Btw, how much dosage and length of time of nolva and hcg to take? Also, you mentioned that i should pay extra attention to my diet. Can u tell me what i have to take note of? Thanks again!

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tofmik wrote:
Hi Shadow,

I went through the older threads and I want to ask you what would you like better for strength.

test-e and then you mention that anadrol and dbol together both on low dosage is better then higer dosage one of them or just use halo? which you like better then anadrol?

Thank you[/quote]

It really depends in what levels you’re at and how much you’re willing to risk your health. If water retention and weight gain are not an issue for you then I would probably pick a combo of test, dbol and halo. If water retention is an issue I might go with something like halo and oral tren. Anadrol is good but for the most part people have more side effects from it ( being lathargic & lack of appetite etc.). It’s not that it doesn’t do it’s job but it just comes with a price.

Some athletes take all of these in the same cycle. Crazy mother fuckers!

Test suspension pre workout is another good choice for strength. With all of these you need to make sure you aren’t becoming toxic or you’ll experience reverse effects.
[/quote]

Last cycle I use only dbol. And the result wasnt that good so Im trying to find other way then increase dbol. And what I read is better to combine them but keep low dosage.

besides the sides like low apetite etc. for the liver the halo is worse then anadrol right?

If the halo is better how to put it in program. The halo should be around 10-20mg max for 2-3 weeks is it correct? And with it go with tren or dbol. I use to do 6 weeks with dbol in 10 week test-e cycle which for 8-10 weeks using anavar in the end of the cycle. adex and so on of course dont mention that

thank you

Hey Shadow,

I have been running Letro as my last resort to reduce my E2 levels for the last 16 weeks. I have been taking 1.25mg EOD and 12.5mg of Aromasin ED.

This has brought E2 down from 200 to 115. I am happy with this and I want to get off all Anti estrogens and see how my body responds and if it keeps my E2 down naturally this time.

I have access to Letro, Aromasin, Adex and Nova.

In your expert opinion what is the best way for me to run a “PCT” on my “PCT”?

I was thinking something along the lines of dropping Letro dose over the next two weeks and upping aromasin dosage then add in Nova?

Cheers once again for your help.

Hey Shadow. Thanks for the great content. I am a noon in terms of gains. I have good knowledge for being a noob as I always grew up with meatheads. I am 5 foot 10, 178 lbs that can barely lift a plate in the major lifts. Being that I’m skinny fat I don’t think it would be wise to gain more fat. Do you think I should do a recomp or lean out and then start putting on mass? I know this is a typical debate but it’s the kind that brings a lot of bullshit arguments. I have pretty skinny wrists and wide hips. Not the best genetics for bodybuilding. Any advice is appreciated

[quote]wenbin wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:
Hi ! Currently doing second cycle of test e , deca and dbol.
wk 1-3 750mg test e
wk 5-15 500mg test e
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 8-12 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-10 400mg deca EW

PCT: wk 17-wk25 of nolva 20mg ED

can u please critique my cycle? Thanks ![/quote]

I would also add HCG and nolvadex throughout the cycle. 2 full bottles of AlphaMale in the pct (double recommended dosage each day)

I’m assuming you’re planning on a mass cycle here? If so, this is a very basic cycle. Pay attention to your diet or you will experience a lot of extra water retention.[/quote]

Yes ! its a basic cycle because its only my second sir. Btw, how much dosage and length of time of nolva and hcg to take? Also, you mentioned that i should pay extra attention to my diet. Can u tell me what i have to take note of? Thanks again!
[/quote]

Basic is a good thing, I didn’t mean for that to be offensive. Run nolvadex throughout the whole cycle at 20mg/day and continue after the cycle with 40/40/20/20/20 and 2 full bottles of AlphaMale. HCG @ 250iu 2x/week for the whole cycle, after the cycle use 500iu 2x/week with the rest of the pct.

I would pay extra attention to intraworkout nutrition. A minimum of 2 servings of Plazma during your workout as one of your main carb sources for the day. Indigo would also be a good idea so you keep carbs higher than you would usually be able to at any given point.

[quote]tofmik wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]tofmik wrote:
Hi Shadow,

I went through the older threads and I want to ask you what would you like better for strength.

test-e and then you mention that anadrol and dbol together both on low dosage is better then higer dosage one of them or just use halo? which you like better then anadrol?

Thank you[/quote]

It really depends in what levels you’re at and how much you’re willing to risk your health. If water retention and weight gain are not an issue for you then I would probably pick a combo of test, dbol and halo. If water retention is an issue I might go with something like halo and oral tren. Anadrol is good but for the most part people have more side effects from it ( being lathargic & lack of appetite etc.). It’s not that it doesn’t do it’s job but it just comes with a price.

Some athletes take all of these in the same cycle. Crazy mother fuckers!

Test suspension pre workout is another good choice for strength. With all of these you need to make sure you aren’t becoming toxic or you’ll experience reverse effects.
[/quote]

Last cycle I use only dbol. And the result wasnt that good so Im trying to find other way then increase dbol. And what I read is better to combine them but keep low dosage.

besides the sides like low apetite etc. for the liver the halo is worse then anadrol right?

If the halo is better how to put it in program. The halo should be around 10-20mg max for 2-3 weeks is it correct? And with it go with tren or dbol. I use to do 6 weeks with dbol in 10 week test-e cycle which for 8-10 weeks using anavar in the end of the cycle. adex and so on of course dont mention that

thank you[/quote]

They are both bad on your liver. I wouldn’t say either one is much worse than the other, they are pretty equal. The trick here is to keep taking liver support like tudca and NAC throughout the whole cycle.
If you don’t like dbol you could try a combo of Anadrol (25-50mg) for 4-6weeks and halo (30-50mg) run this for about 4 weeks. You can start the halo at 10mg and bump it up 10 every week until you reach this range.

Tren will go well with both of these and run test for the whole duration of the cycle.

[quote]Nozza wrote:
Hey Shadow,

I have been running Letro as my last resort to reduce my E2 levels for the last 16 weeks. I have been taking 1.25mg EOD and 12.5mg of Aromasin ED.

This has brought E2 down from 200 to 115. I am happy with this and I want to get off all Anti estrogens and see how my body responds and if it keeps my E2 down naturally this time.

I have access to Letro, Aromasin, Adex and Nova.

In your expert opinion what is the best way for me to run a “PCT” on my “PCT”?

I was thinking something along the lines of dropping Letro dose over the next two weeks and upping aromasin dosage then add in Nova?

Cheers once again for your help. [/quote]

Your plan might work. I have never heard of someone who was on letrozole for so long, that’d insane. I’m not an expert with this kind of long term use of strong anti estrogens. I would probably advise you to talk to your doctor or whoever gave you this program.

However, the idea you mentioned sounds very logical to me.

[quote]nunes92 wrote:
Hey Shadow. Thanks for the great content. I am a noon in terms of gains. I have good knowledge for being a noob as I always grew up with meatheads. I am 5 foot 10, 178 lbs that can barely lift a plate in the major lifts. Being that I’m skinny fat I don’t think it would be wise to gain more fat. Do you think I should do a recomp or lean out and then start putting on mass? I know this is a typical debate but it’s the kind that brings a lot of bullshit arguments. I have pretty skinny wrists and wide hips. Not the best genetics for bodybuilding. Any advice is appreciated[/quote]

Could you please post a current photo so I can give you better advise. It’s hard to say without knowing who I’m dealing with.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:
Hello Shadow Pro,

Ive got some concerns regarding my cycle.
im on test E 250 and Primobolan 250mg each week for a total of 8 weeks.
I did this cycle a few months ago for the same time.
the problem i encouter is with my sleep, i wake up a lot covered in sweat and having to pee alot.
besides that i have a big snoring problem, my doctor will send me to a sleep clinic he thinks it has something to do with sleep apnea.
my GF can hear my breathing stop in the middle of the night so sleep apnea sounds about right.
is there any possibility it has to do something with my cycle?
because of the crappy sleep im also not getting the results i want its really bothering me.
hope u can provide me with some of your knowledge
thnx in advance[/quote]

Sounds like sleep apnea, I really doubt it’s the cycle because your dosages are very moderate.

The only thing I can think of is if you gained a lot of weight with the cycle… Something like 20+ lbs it can lead to breathing problems during sleep. Never heard of night sweats from test and primo, only from tren. You never know with underground shit.
[/quote]

Thnx for the reply i will maken an appointment with the hospital later this week.
It really sounds like the sleep apnea is due to my increase in bodyweight.
looking back from now till last year the weight gain has been 15 kgs.
[/quote]

15kg is a lot to gain and I think this might have something to do with it. I would try to fix your diet and keep bodyfat lower to lose a few pounds or at least gain more gradually to allow your body to adjust to the new weight.[/quote]

Yes i know, i could sure drop some body fat after this cycle is done.
my main point is im starting to feel so damn skinny when im lower in body fat :frowning:
would it be an considerable option to keep up the bulk for a few months and start dropping BF while being on a new cycle??
and what kind of cycle would u recommend, i did two moderate cycle with Test E 250 combined with Primo 250 e/w for 8 weeks.
my current stats are 91,2kg wieght, 170 cm length Body fat precentage 12%.

[/quote]

If you could post a current photo that would be very helpful. It really depends on how much muscle you have and what level of bf you are at. In order to lose fat you need to be in a calorie deficit and to gain muscle you need to be in a calorie surplus so these usually don’t happen at the same time unless you’re a complete beginner or have some crazy genetics.

Your cycle is very moderate so obviously if you’re willing or wanting to do more then the results would be much more profound. I do need to see a picture in order to make a proper recommendation.[/quote]
this is a very recent foto of me.
i would definetly be willing to do more, as longs as safety can be garaunteed.
im really looking forward to your advice.
Thnx for this awesme thread
[/quote]

Before jumping into another cycle I would probably try to shed a bit of body fat. The results of starting a cycle at a lower body fat is much more profound. You look good now but if you can get under 10%'for a starting point you’ll do great.

You can increase your test to about 400-500mg/week and switch the primo for masteron at 400mg/week. I would also add nolvadex and HCG there.[/quote]

Thnx again shadow pro, at this point im tryin to reduce bodyfat steadily before jumping in the next cycle.
besides that im hoping to control the sleep apnea, im having a really hard time training at this point.
i hope ill be recovered in a few weeks so i can bump up the training frequency.
something different i would want to know about a cycle is, i found a blend with 200 mg test e 100 mg tren e and 100 mg deca, could i run this in a cycle? 2ml each week for 8 weeks ? it would be 400 Test E 200 Tren E and 200 Deca for 8 weeks then 10 days of clomid 50 mg. and keeping nolva ready for sides


Hi SP, I’ve been reading your threads doing research for the last 9 months, first time posting and thank you!
About me: 29 years old, 6’4, 210lbs, 10%body fat(I think?), natural training for 18 years, with the exception of the clen I’ve run for 3 weeks. I included pics as well, any feedback is welcome. I have currently been running a high fat high protein low carb diet for 6 weeks. Diet/training/supplementation are all clean and on point.

Additionally, I have been supplementing clen for the last three weeks as well to kick things up a bit, while of course maintaining proper diet and training. 80mcg split into two doses daily. I’ve gone to 120mcg but I feel like if I get my diet completely nailed I can stay at 40 or 80mcg…your thoughts? It’ really pisses me off when people assume u can take a pill and poof fat disappears; proper diet and consistent/intensive training are everything. I’ll Ill ways train heavy, similar to mike ohearn’s powerbuilding so I can get the best of both worlds. I have 18 years of natural training under my belt too, I’m 29. My questions are as follows:1.when running this type of diet, ideally how do I want to calculate my fat intake so that it is high enough for my body to run on and put in mass without putting it on as fat? .5g per lb of body weight? More/less?2.how would you calculate an appropriate carb intake in conjunction with the high fat and high protein? 3. Your thoughts on o’hearn and his power building approach? Do you know him? Seems like a real cool guy who knows his shit, gear or not. Is it really possible he’s natural like he says? I just want to know if it’s achievable naturally so I can strive it. Dude looks amazing and he’s strong as fuck, love his dog too!)4. Have you run a diet such as this? Have you had success?5. I’m currently cutting while trying to preserve and/or build additionall mass; good to use in a cut phase or better during mass gain? Possibly both? 6. I would like to incorporate red meat but am unsure of how to do so appropriately without adding fat and sacrificing conditioning. How would you approach the implementation of red meat? 7 . Is it necessary to use liver support(I use milk thistle) with the Clen?8. Can clomid be used as a natural test booster? Would you recommend it? Are there any possible negative effects?
8. Dave Palumbo says clen is anabolic; why is this and do you believe it?
9. It’s almost Olympia time! How do you see the top 5 going down in the 212 and heavy weight? Good luck to you if your competing too :slight_smile: I know it’s a lot of questions thank ,’ you again for your time, I thought these would be great questions that I along with everyone else could learn from, I’m not opposed to gear any means but we need more Nutrition and training questions, without those gear is inconsequential!

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:
Hi ! Currently doing second cycle of test e , deca and dbol.
wk 1-3 750mg test e
wk 5-15 500mg test e
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 8-12 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-10 400mg deca EW

PCT: wk 17-wk25 of nolva 20mg ED

can u please critique my cycle? Thanks ![/quote]

I would also add HCG and nolvadex throughout the cycle. 2 full bottles of AlphaMale in the pct (double recommended dosage each day)

I’m assuming you’re planning on a mass cycle here? If so, this is a very basic cycle. Pay attention to your diet or you will experience a lot of extra water retention.[/quote]

Yes ! its a basic cycle because its only my second sir. Btw, how much dosage and length of time of nolva and hcg to take? Also, you mentioned that i should pay extra attention to my diet. Can u tell me what i have to take note of? Thanks again!
[/quote]

Basic is a good thing, I didn’t mean for that to be offensive. Run nolvadex throughout the whole cycle at 20mg/day and continue after the cycle with 40/40/20/20/20 and 2 full bottles of AlphaMale. HCG @ 250iu 2x/week for the whole cycle, after the cycle use 500iu 2x/week with the rest of the pct.

I would pay extra attention to intraworkout nutrition. A minimum of 2 servings of Plazma during your workout as one of your main carb sources for the day. Indigo would also be a good idea so you keep carbs higher than you would usually be able to at any given point.
[/quote]

It wasnt offensive at all sir. Another question, is Glycergrow as intraworkout and superfreak as pwo gtg? Thanks for all the input sir

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]nunes92 wrote:
Hey Shadow. Thanks for the great content. I am a noon in terms of gains. I have good knowledge for being a noob as I always grew up with meatheads. I am 5 foot 10, 178 lbs that can barely lift a plate in the major lifts. Being that I’m skinny fat I don’t think it would be wise to gain more fat. Do you think I should do a recomp or lean out and then start putting on mass? I know this is a typical debate but it’s the kind that brings a lot of bullshit arguments. I have pretty skinny wrists and wide hips. Not the best genetics for bodybuilding. Any advice is appreciated[/quote]

Could you please post a current photo so I can give you better advise. It’s hard to say without knowing who I’m dealing with.[/quote]

Attached. 178 lbs

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]maikeltjeh89 wrote:
Hello Shadow Pro,

Ive got some concerns regarding my cycle.
im on test E 250 and Primobolan 250mg each week for a total of 8 weeks.
I did this cycle a few months ago for the same time.
the problem i encouter is with my sleep, i wake up a lot covered in sweat and having to pee alot.
besides that i have a big snoring problem, my doctor will send me to a sleep clinic he thinks it has something to do with sleep apnea.
my GF can hear my breathing stop in the middle of the night so sleep apnea sounds about right.
is there any possibility it has to do something with my cycle?
because of the crappy sleep im also not getting the results i want its really bothering me.
hope u can provide me with some of your knowledge
thnx in advance[/quote]

Sounds like sleep apnea, I really doubt it’s the cycle because your dosages are very moderate.

The only thing I can think of is if you gained a lot of weight with the cycle… Something like 20+ lbs it can lead to breathing problems during sleep. Never heard of night sweats from test and primo, only from tren. You never know with underground shit.
[/quote]

Thnx for the reply i will maken an appointment with the hospital later this week.
It really sounds like the sleep apnea is due to my increase in bodyweight.
looking back from now till last year the weight gain has been 15 kgs.
[/quote]

15kg is a lot to gain and I think this might have something to do with it. I would try to fix your diet and keep bodyfat lower to lose a few pounds or at least gain more gradually to allow your body to adjust to the new weight.[/quote]

Yes i know, i could sure drop some body fat after this cycle is done.
my main point is im starting to feel so damn skinny when im lower in body fat :frowning:
would it be an considerable option to keep up the bulk for a few months and start dropping BF while being on a new cycle??
and what kind of cycle would u recommend, i did two moderate cycle with Test E 250 combined with Primo 250 e/w for 8 weeks.
my current stats are 91,2kg wieght, 170 cm length Body fat precentage 12%.

[/quote]

If you could post a current photo that would be very helpful. It really depends on how much muscle you have and what level of bf you are at. In order to lose fat you need to be in a calorie deficit and to gain muscle you need to be in a calorie surplus so these usually don’t happen at the same time unless you’re a complete beginner or have some crazy genetics.

Your cycle is very moderate so obviously if you’re willing or wanting to do more then the results would be much more profound. I do need to see a picture in order to make a proper recommendation.[/quote]
this is a very recent foto of me.
i would definetly be willing to do more, as longs as safety can be garaunteed.
im really looking forward to your advice.
Thnx for this awesme thread
[/quote]

Before jumping into another cycle I would probably try to shed a bit of body fat. The results of starting a cycle at a lower body fat is much more profound. You look good now but if you can get under 10%'for a starting point you’ll do great.

You can increase your test to about 400-500mg/week and switch the primo for masteron at 400mg/week. I would also add nolvadex and HCG there.[/quote]

Thnx again shadow pro, at this point im tryin to reduce bodyfat steadily before jumping in the next cycle.
besides that im hoping to control the sleep apnea, im having a really hard time training at this point.
i hope ill be recovered in a few weeks so i can bump up the training frequency.
something different i would want to know about a cycle is, i found a blend with 200 mg test e 100 mg tren e and 100 mg deca, could i run this in a cycle? 2ml each week for 8 weeks ? it would be 400 Test E 200 Tren E and 200 Deca for 8 weeks then 10 days of clomid 50 mg. and keeping nolva ready for sides

[/quote]

I would not use tren and deca together, I think it’s a bad idea. I’m not a big fan of blends either because they usually aren’t exactly what they claim to be so try to avoid those if possible.

[quote]PERSIANPUNISHER wrote:
Hi SP, I’ve been reading your threads doing research for the last 9 months, first time posting and thank you!
About me: 29 years old, 6’4, 210lbs, 10%body fat(I think?), natural training for 18 years, with the exception of the clen I’ve run for 3 weeks. I included pics as well, any feedback is welcome. I have currently been running a high fat high protein low carb diet for 6 weeks. Diet/training/supplementation are all clean and on point.

Additionally, I have been supplementing clen for the last three weeks as well to kick things up a bit, while of course maintaining proper diet and training. 80mcg split into two doses daily. I’ve gone to 120mcg but I feel like if I get my diet completely nailed I can stay at 40 or 80mcg…your thoughts? It’ really pisses me off when people assume u can take a pill and poof fat disappears; proper diet and consistent/intensive training are everything. I’ll Ill ways train heavy, similar to mike ohearn’s powerbuilding so I can get the best of both worlds. I have 18 years of natural training under my belt too, I’m 29. My questions are as follows:1.when running this type of diet, ideally how do I want to calculate my fat intake so that it is high enough for my body to run on and put in mass without putting it on as fat? .5g per lb of body weight? More/less?2.how would you calculate an appropriate carb intake in conjunction with the high fat and high protein? 3. Your thoughts on o’hearn and his power building approach? Do you know him? Seems like a real cool guy who knows his shit, gear or not. Is it really possible he’s natural like he says? I just want to know if it’s achievable naturally so I can strive it. Dude looks amazing and he’s strong as fuck, love his dog too!)4. Have you run a diet such as this? Have you had success?5. I’m currently cutting while trying to preserve and/or build additionall mass; good to use in a cut phase or better during mass gain? Possibly both? 6. I would like to incorporate red meat but am unsure of how to do so appropriately without adding fat and sacrificing conditioning. How would you approach the implementation of red meat? 7 . Is it necessary to use liver support(I use milk thistle) with the Clen?8. Can clomid be used as a natural test booster? Would you recommend it? Are there any possible negative effects?
8. Dave Palumbo says clen is anabolic; why is this and do you believe it?
9. It’s almost Olympia time! How do you see the top 5 going down in the 212 and heavy weight? Good luck to you if your competing too :slight_smile: I know it’s a lot of questions thank ,’ you again for your time, I thought these would be great questions that I along with everyone else could learn from, I’m not opposed to gear any means but we need more Nutrition and training questions, without those gear is inconsequential![/quote]

Hi, welcome to the forum.

Excellent work! Not just for being natural but for learning, training hard for years and understanding that diet/training/supplementation are very important.

Everyone take a good look at this dudes picture and see what can be done naturally! In an ideal situation this is the kind of development you should have before even thinking about a cycle. Good proportions, nice amount of mass and low body fat. This comes to show you that if you keep all other variables in order then juice is just an added bonus on top to make you look like a freak not just a guy who works out.

Congratulations and excellent work.

  1. I’m not a big believer in this kind of diet. I think that for performance carbs are a superior energy source. It’s hard to say a number because some people are more insulin sensitive than others but anywhere between .3-.5g/lb of bodyweight of fat is a rough starting point. This isn’t usually the style of diet I would choose because I prefer high carbs, high protein and low fat. In this case the fat would be anywhere between .1-.3g/lb at most.

  2. If you are doing this diet anyways I would probably only have carbs intraworkout from Plazma. The amount would be determined based on the length and intensity of your workout. Completely Individual based on the person.

  3. I met him a few times and I really like how he trains and his general powerbuilding approach. He’s a really cool guy. I’m not sure that I believe he’s actually natural (not because I don’t think you can look like this naturally but because he’s very very strong for a tall and relatively light dude) I could be wrong here but it doesn’t really matter, he trains hard and looks good. Since he doesn’t compete in the Ifbb I couldn’t care less if he’s using steroids or not. If he is using steroids and claiming to be natural it’s a pretty douchey thing to do… If this is the case then he just shouldn’t say anything.

  4. I did low carb diets a long time ago and didn’t have much success with it. I always prefer medium to high carbs, medium to high protein and low fat. Numbers would depend on the goal. It’s better for performance and to look fuller and more alive on stage.

  5. It not my kind of diet. I wouldn’t cut or try to add mass on it.

  6. It all depends on your daily macros. Lean red meat is great but it just needs to be calculated properly into your daily macros.

  7. Not going to hurt but Clen is really not that toxic especially if used for a short period of time.

  8. No and no. Use AlphaMale instead, it’s your best option for a natural test booster. Clomid is not natural.

  9. It’s not that Clen is anabolic but it’s anti catabolic meaning that it will help your body to preserve muscle while dieting.

  10. Heath, Greene, Wolfe, Jackson, Rhoden … Possibly Ramy for an upset.
    212: Flex , Eduardo, Hide, Henry, Raymond

[quote]wenbin wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:
Hi ! Currently doing second cycle of test e , deca and dbol.
wk 1-3 750mg test e
wk 5-15 500mg test e
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 8-12 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-10 400mg deca EW

PCT: wk 17-wk25 of nolva 20mg ED

can u please critique my cycle? Thanks ![/quote]

I would also add HCG and nolvadex throughout the cycle. 2 full bottles of AlphaMale in the pct (double recommended dosage each day)

I’m assuming you’re planning on a mass cycle here? If so, this is a very basic cycle. Pay attention to your diet or you will experience a lot of extra water retention.[/quote]

Yes ! its a basic cycle because its only my second sir. Btw, how much dosage and length of time of nolva and hcg to take? Also, you mentioned that i should pay extra attention to my diet. Can u tell me what i have to take note of? Thanks again!
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Basic is a good thing, I didn’t mean for that to be offensive. Run nolvadex throughout the whole cycle at 20mg/day and continue after the cycle with 40/40/20/20/20 and 2 full bottles of AlphaMale. HCG @ 250iu 2x/week for the whole cycle, after the cycle use 500iu 2x/week with the rest of the pct.

I would pay extra attention to intraworkout nutrition. A minimum of 2 servings of Plazma during your workout as one of your main carb sources for the day. Indigo would also be a good idea so you keep carbs higher than you would usually be able to at any given point.
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It wasnt offensive at all sir. Another question, is Glycergrow as intraworkout and superfreak as pwo gtg? Thanks for all the input sir
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Nothing even comes close to Plazma for intraworkout. If I could only buy one supplement this would be it, nothing comes close. MAG-10 is your best option for post workout.

[quote]nunes92 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]nunes92 wrote:
Hey Shadow. Thanks for the great content. I am a noon in terms of gains. I have good knowledge for being a noob as I always grew up with meatheads. I am 5 foot 10, 178 lbs that can barely lift a plate in the major lifts. Being that I’m skinny fat I don’t think it would be wise to gain more fat. Do you think I should do a recomp or lean out and then start putting on mass? I know this is a typical debate but it’s the kind that brings a lot of bullshit arguments. I have pretty skinny wrists and wide hips. Not the best genetics for bodybuilding. Any advice is appreciated[/quote]

Could you please post a current photo so I can give you better advise. It’s hard to say without knowing who I’m dealing with.[/quote]

Attached. 178 lbs[/quote]

My main and only concern for you at this point would be to concentrate on losing bodyfat but adjusting your diet (you need to be in a calories deficit and add some daily cardio) and training accordingly. You need to push as hard as you can in the gym and slowly and gradually get strong. Fat doesn’t move weight, muscle does!

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Nozza wrote:
Hey Shadow,

I have been running Letro as my last resort to reduce my E2 levels for the last 16 weeks. I have been taking 1.25mg EOD and 12.5mg of Aromasin ED.

This has brought E2 down from 200 to 115. I am happy with this and I want to get off all Anti estrogens and see how my body responds and if it keeps my E2 down naturally this time.

I have access to Letro, Aromasin, Adex and Nova.

In your expert opinion what is the best way for me to run a “PCT” on my “PCT”?

I was thinking something along the lines of dropping Letro dose over the next two weeks and upping aromasin dosage then add in Nova?

Cheers once again for your help. [/quote]

Your plan might work. I have never heard of someone who was on letrozole for so long, that’d insane. I’m not an expert with this kind of long term use of strong anti estrogens. I would probably advise you to talk to your doctor or whoever gave you this program.

However, the idea you mentioned sounds very logical to me.
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Cheers Shadow, here is what I was thinking

Week 1: Letrozole .6mg EOD - Aromasin - 12.5mg ED
Week 2: Letrozole .6mg E3D - Aromasin - 12.5mg ED
Week 3: Aromasin 25mg ED - Nova - 20mg ED
Week 4: Aromasin 25mg ED - Nova - 20mg ED
Week 5: Aromasin 12.5mg ED - Nova 20mg ED
Week 6: Nova 20mg ED

Week 7 off of everything?

Any improvements you could make would be greatly appreciated.

SP:

I wanted to take the time to thank you not just for answering all of my questions, but for your kind words.“everyone take a look at this dudes picture and see what can be achieved naturally.” This world of ours has been my life love since i touched iron when I was 13, and this comment from a credible
Pro launch as yourself gave what I have been working on validity. It’s the greatest complement I have ever received, and it has motivated me even more to push myself to be even better, I’m still only 29 so I know with all variables being in place and my drive and genetics the sky is the limit! I do have a few more questions if you don’t mind, I just wanted to let you know how much you have impacted me going forward; respect is repaid with respect brother, thank you again.

  1. I plan to utilize your high carb/high protein/low fat approach when transitioning into a mass gain phase November 3rd. Being that I am currently running a high fat/high protein/moderate carb(centered around training), what is the proper rate to incrimentally increase carbs? My plan was to begin with an additional carb meal of 50g to begin with, monitor how my body responds based on the mirror and continue to add 25/50g of carbs each week throughout the 5month phase(November to March). Good approach? Suggestions?

  2. I am going to order plasma as suggested. I deadlift/squat/bench/clean/snatch/farmers walk/standing military press 3 times a week and do more body building oriented splits the other three days(chest/tri,back/bi, shoulders traps, legs, etc). , additionally, an incline walk of 3.0speed on an incline of 25.0 is done 5times a week post workout. I would like to use two scoops of plasma on my powerlifting days as I’m sure you can see based on all those exercises is pretty fucking taxing lol. Because I’m still running low carb I would be using majority if not all of primary carbs for the day in those two scoops. Is this acceptable, or should I just keep it to one each work out and utilize a separate carb meal throughout the day?

  3. I never asked you based on my picture what you thought my body fat may be? I assumed about 10% cause I know most people aren’t real objective, but what you said about me made me think about it more

  4. Is there any logic behind using a small dose(20mcg) of clen while in a mass gain phase to limit fat gain or would it be counter productive? Or should I just skip the clen and rely, as always, on having my diet/supplementation/training dialed in

  5. How do you feel about the training protocol I utilize? keeping in mind I always try to take after ohearn as far as reps/weight/etc. I train every day because I’ve always gotten my best results the more and harder I worked, I always thought overtraining is kinda bullshit. Do you agree? any adjustments?

  6. you had mentioned Alpha Male to me previously. I read that it doesn’t have to be cycled, but wouldn’t the body adapt to it eventually like it does with everything? If it’s legit i wouldn’t mind getting it and getting a boost, in just unsure of the science behind it. Could you elaborate?

  7. Cardio while mass gaining; counter productive? Minimize fat? Logic tells me this is completely individual and should be based on the mirror, but i would always like to learn something that can make me better :slight_smile:

  8. I would like to do a local show sometime in the future, tested/non tested doesn’t matter I just want to compete and see where I stack up. If I were to do a non tested one I would do physique, might not have enough mass to stack up with the big boys in bodybuilding l, however I believe a physique show at any level, tested or not, can be won naturally with proper diet/training/supplementation and with my generics victory is completely achievable naturally. Do you concurr?

  9. Interesting list for the Olympia, why not as much love for rhoden or Raymond?I had Heath/rhoden/wolf/Kai/dexter. 212 Raymond/flex/eduardo/hide/Henry.

  10. I admire and respect Dave Palumbo and Chris Aceto for their real candor and wealth of knowledge. I think what Dave does for the industry from an honesty standpoint is refreshing, and I also like how he is all about promoting the athletes and the sport overall, seems like just another one of us really. Just wondering if you know/met him and what your thoughts are on him and why no one will give him press passes anymore/make him pay $$, is this because the powers that be are punishing him for keeping it real or is the industry as a whole suffering right now?

  11. My training partner is going to read this and he refuses to squat or deadlift, can you pleas confirm
    That he will NEVER reading his full potential without consistently doing these FOUNDATIONAL movements?!?! Maybe if he hears it from a prince won’t think I’m a complete asshole for harping on him about it all the time.

Guess that’s all I could come up with tonight SP lol, once again I look forward to continuing to speak to you, thanks again for being around here, one love.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]wenbin wrote:
Hi ! Currently doing second cycle of test e , deca and dbol.
wk 1-3 750mg test e
wk 5-15 500mg test e
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 8-12 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-10 400mg deca EW

PCT: wk 17-wk25 of nolva 20mg ED

can u please critique my cycle? Thanks ![/quote]

I would also add HCG and nolvadex throughout the cycle. 2 full bottles of AlphaMale in the pct (double recommended dosage each day)

I’m assuming you’re planning on a mass cycle here? If so, this is a very basic cycle. Pay attention to your diet or you will experience a lot of extra water retention.[/quote]

Yes ! its a basic cycle because its only my second sir. Btw, how much dosage and length of time of nolva and hcg to take? Also, you mentioned that i should pay extra attention to my diet. Can u tell me what i have to take note of? Thanks again!
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Basic is a good thing, I didn’t mean for that to be offensive. Run nolvadex throughout the whole cycle at 20mg/day and continue after the cycle with 40/40/20/20/20 and 2 full bottles of AlphaMale. HCG @ 250iu 2x/week for the whole cycle, after the cycle use 500iu 2x/week with the rest of the pct.

I would pay extra attention to intraworkout nutrition. A minimum of 2 servings of Plazma during your workout as one of your main carb sources for the day. Indigo would also be a good idea so you keep carbs higher than you would usually be able to at any given point.
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Hey man thanks for all the answered queries i have ! Really appreciate your time and effort. Just a last quick one, is there any must-have when i’m using deca, like caber or something? And also, can i use HCG only during the last two weeks of my cycle, 2500iu per week?