Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

Huurree · September 5, 2015, 9:36pm

Hey Shadow! I’m from Sweden and took some advice from you earlier this year before competition! Now it’s time again, here’s my 6 weeksout plan and I will link some pictures as well!

6w
Mast E 600
Test E 1g ( will try with slow ester)
EQ 800
Tren Ace 150 eod
Provirion 50 Ed
Anavar 60 Ed
Winstrol 50 Ed
Adex 2mg Ed
3 ius Real Hgh Pfizer
T3 50mcg

5 out:
Everything same except dropping EQ

4 out: drop adex adding letro 1 Ed

3 out: Higher the Anavar to 80 dropping the T3 to 25mcg

2 out: dropping down test to 500 , higher the letro 2mg Ed, dropping Hgh , adding superdrol

1 out higher win to 100 and Anavar to 100 , dropping test

Any advice? Competing in men’s physique nationals

Regards

Shadow_Pro · September 5, 2015, 10:13pm

[quote]wonvry wrote:
Ive been working my way through every thread and post and enjoying it all. Now ive heard you alot tell people drugs arent needed in mens physique or they are taking way too much. I even saw you say some pros are natural which personally i dont agree with. Regardless, what in your opinion is a normal cycle for a top physique competitor? I do agree that alot of novice competetors are taking way too much and its actually more detremental to their physique then good.

The problem with physiqur is it seems to be taking a turn from “physique” to mid size bodybuilders. The last few nationals ive been to the physique winners were bigger then some of the bodybuilder winners. A few pros i know are the same way i mean they are just massive. So just curious what your opinion on a pro stack would be

Thabks and look forward to your thoughts.[/quote]

I agree that the physique competitors are getting bigger every year at least in their upper bodies. They are starting to look like little bodybuilders.

I don’t really know their cycles, they all do different things. If you’re trying to keep a lean and hard look then you would use mostly short esters and hardening drugs… Prop, masteron, anavar, primo, anti-e’s etc. the dosages can vary a lot depending on the person.

Shadow_Pro · September 5, 2015, 10:15pm

[quote]dankata9 wrote:
Hi im just starting a bulking cycle ,and i plan on using sust,anadrol and deca and add Insulin and HGH . HGH ill use is pharm grade Genotropin,Insulin is Humalog. I want an opinion on timing of shooting HGH ,as i plan to use Humalog mainly post workout right before my fast acting carbs and protein shake. Im curious on what you advise will be when to take the HGH ,how to spare it throughout the day and how to maybe use it post workout around the Humalog shot ill take? Also would you advise using Humalog more frequently than only post workout [/quote]

I have been through this subject extensively in my previous threads so I suggest going back and doing some reading most specifically in the first thread. The best time to take insulin would be pre workout. GH timing is goal dependent.

Shadow_Pro · September 5, 2015, 10:18pm

[quote]Androgenoid wrote:
Why do you run so much test with Trenbolone? Wouldn’t you be better off running less test and more tren?

Another question: When I run a lot of tren my progesterone gets high of course - tren being a prog derivative as you know. And even though my e2 levels are low and prolactin non-existent I’ve still had that pre-gyno tingling sensation on occasion - especially with Deca in the mix so I can only attribute it to high prog levels exciting the small amount of e2. Have you ever used “Selective Progesterone Receptor Modulators” or other methods to lower prog?

Thanks[/quote]

If you’re looking for a good combo of both strength, mass and minimal side effects then 1:1 ratio works the best from my experience. When you run more tren than test it seems to be a bit harder to put on mass and comes with more side effects. I never advise to use tren and deca together and caber usually solves most of the side effects. I’ve never used anything to lower progesterone levels.

Shadow_Pro · September 5, 2015, 10:19pm

[quote]ARAFA wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ARAFA wrote:
mr,shadow please i have question and hoping for ur wise reply bec i did a thread no one replied
i am on my late 19 and competed 2 times in natural shows and realize all top 10 who step on stage are cycling on low doses cuz it’s physique category anyway and they don’t test !!
my next show is in 11/dec and i will start my cycle on 21 this month here are my options are :
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks
or
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks + dianabol 20mg/day for 4 weeks and take gh on pct pre contest
or
test e 500mg/week for 8 weeks + deca 300mg/week for 8 weeks and take gh on pct pre contest

i am 65kg 5’6" 6.5% bf
if i took the dbol stack could i come on stage at the same bf
[/quote]

Can you please post a current picture.

At 19 years old I would probably recommend staying away from juice unless you’re some kind of super freak 19 year old (no offense but I highly doubt that, it would be very rare) All of these options you gave are horrible which tells me you haven’t done much research on the subject. Post up a picture and prove me wrong!

SP[/quote]

this photos were taken in my first show exactly 1 year ago so i added like 8-9 lbs of lean muscle right now
http://postimg.org/image/9167jtc9j/

http://postimg.org/image/ex0577rkn/

http://postimg.org/image/3w0eog9xz/

http://postimg.org/image/3zytig4t3/

http://postimg.org/image/z87efrujb/

http://postimg.org/image/6398q44lz/

my back photo in the gym is a recent one btw

[/quote]

I think you need to concentrate on coming in leaner and harder for your next show. It’s too early to start using steroids, I strongly advise you wait another few years before considering it. Get your training and diet on track and you can do great things just by adjusting these.

Shadow_Pro · September 5, 2015, 10:24pm

[quote]ginston wrote:
Hi shadow…just looking at ideal pre workout insulin protocols. i seen mike arnolds protocol. are you aware if it? i wanted to know your opinion on glycerol monosterate…is it worthless or worth adding into pre/intra/post workout shakes? want to get the most out of it whike the insulin is active…my protocol looks something like this. could you let me know if any good or needs changing.
4iu HGH (genotropin) 30mins pre workout 10iu Humalog 15mins pre workout with

shake 1-(pre)
50g branched cyclic dextrin, 20-30g hydrolised whey protein, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine, 3g leucine, bcaa?. was also going to add taurine,arginine,beta alanine,citrulline and caffeine to pre workout shake for increased pumps and energy. also seen glycerol monosterate on the list?

45-60mins after 1 shake
shake 2-(intra)
50g branched cyclic dextrin, 20-30g hydrolised whey protein, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine, 3g leucine. bcaa?

45-60mins after shake 2
shake 3-(post)
50g branched cyclic dextrin, 20-30g hydrolised whey protein, 5g creatine, 10g glutamine, 3g leucine, bcaa?

Then solid meal 60mins after shake with low or no fats. (this would work out last meal for me)

trying to get this right and make it as productive as possible. Thanks also already been asked with regards to insulin sensitivity what would be best way to run insulin pre workout throughout 16week cycle while keeping in mind insulin sensitivity. Thanks for the help[/quote]

I’m not really familiar with his protocols. I think glycerol is pretty useless you can skip this.

The protocol you wrote looks great to me. I would add the bcaa’s in both shakes, it’s always a good idea.

Only run insulin on your training days and keep it to 8 weeks max. And then go off for at least 6 weeks. If you do it like this it shouldn’t hurt your insulin sensitivity. Your dosages are pretty low/moderate so it shouldn’t be a real issue just make sure to keep your diet as clean as possible and avoid fats around the timing of your insulin. A 4 hour window with Humalog is a minimum.

Androgenoid · September 6, 2015, 3:35am

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Androgenoid wrote:
Why do you run so much test with Trenbolone? Wouldn’t you be better off running less test and more tren?

Another question: When I run a lot of tren my progesterone gets high of course - tren being a prog derivative as you know. And even though my e2 levels are low and prolactin non-existent I’ve still had that pre-gyno tingling sensation on occasion - especially with Deca in the mix so I can only attribute it to high prog levels exciting the small amount of e2. Have you ever used “Selective Progesterone Receptor Modulators” or other methods to lower prog?

Thanks[/quote]

If you’re looking for a good combo of both strength, mass and minimal side effects then 1:1 ratio works the best from my experience. When you run more tren than test it seems to be a bit harder to put on mass and comes with more side effects. I never advise to use tren and deca together and caber usually solves most of the side effects. I’ve never used anything to lower progesterone levels.[/quote]

Yes more test is definitely better for mass but I don’t like the water retention. Anadrol helps me stack on mass in tren cycles. I add Deca for thereuputic joint pain relief. Thanks for your reply.

mutant100 · September 6, 2015, 8:14am

Say for example a 6 foot 230 natural guy with 16% bodyfat would go on juice to stay at 12% bodyfat 260 pound wich wouldnt be possible naturally. Is 750mg test e/week enough, if the diet is really good sleep is on point and training. ??

Shadow_Pro · September 7, 2015, 4:37am

[quote]mutant100 wrote:
Say for example a 6 foot 230 natural guy with 16% bodyfat would go on juice to stay at 12% bodyfat 260 pound wich wouldnt be possible naturally. Is 750mg test e/week enough, if the diet is really good sleep is on point and training. ??
[/quote]

It depends on a lot of things like training experience, past cycles, body type tolerance etc. it might be enough for some people but not for others. You’re talking about 30lbs so if you actually mean clean muscle and not water and fat then it’s a huge difference. It really depends on the person.

wonvry · September 7, 2015, 11:07pm

I followed this my last show and came in super flat and it dramatically reduced my size/fullness. I dont have a coach or anything. This was my second time runnign anything besides just test cycle.

I was on 250-300 tren ace and 400 prop. Pretry conservative cycle as i generally under do my cycles. i had increase my ais abiut a week and a half before my show to cut down estro. Never really watched sodium as i always keep it fairly low. But was more conscious days out from show. Took herbal diuretics about 5 days out with potassium. Any advice? Firat pic was probaby 3 weeks out.

Sunday (six days out)
Carb deplete (70-100 grams). Drink 2-3 gallons of H20.

Monday (five days out)
Carb deplete (70-100 grams). Drink 2-3 gallons of H20.

Tuesday (four days out)
Carb deplete (70-100 grams). Drink 2-3 gallons of H20.

Wednesday (three days out)
Begin carbing up after training in the a.m. (350 grams). Very low sodium. White potatoes are a great carb up food. Drop H20 to 3/4 gallon, drink with meals. Last day of working out (a.m.). Take 400 mgs. of Potassium, 100 mg four times a day with meals.

Thursday (two days out)
Continue carbing up (300 grams, more if you look flat). Keep very low sodium, Drop water further to 1/2 gallon.

Friday (one day out)
Continue carbing up (250-300 grams) bur back off carbs a little bit mid to late afternoon if you look completely full. If you look flat, then continue to eat carbs through Friday afternoon and evening). Drop water further to 1/4 gallon.

Saturday (Contest Day)
Drink very little water: sips only (but don’t cut out water completely). Take in as close to zero sodium as humanly possible. Then, “trickle in” carbs, maybe 50 grams every 1 1/2 hrs (potato- rice) all morning up to prejudging.

wonvry · September 8, 2015, 1:55am

Heres show i know my tan was shitty.

Forgot to add i did winny last 4 weeks

Shadow_Pro · September 8, 2015, 1:29pm

[quote]wonvry wrote:
I followed this my last show and came in super flat and it dramatically reduced my size/fullness. I dont have a coach or anything. This was my second time runnign anything besides just test cycle.