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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
Can you post a current photo.

You are talking about a pretty advanced cycle here so I prefer if I know who I’m talking to before I give such advice.

Absolutely no letrozole instead of arimidex. Can you get nolvadex?

Deca and eq in the same cycle is a bad choice. Compared to the rest of your cycle the test dose is too low and the example in your first cycle is not how you should use HCG. You should use it throughout the cycle. From what you told me your body fat is too high to jump into a hard mass cycle.

It might be the vague post but I’m getting the feeling that you haven’t done a lot of research. However, I am here to help and if you post a picture and more about yourself I can give you my opinion.
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yes i can get nolvadex
and i got this cycle
Week Testosterone Equipoise Trenbolone Nolvadex
. Cypionate Enanthate
1 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
2 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
3 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
4 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
5 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
6 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
7 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
8 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
9 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
10 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
11 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
12 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
13 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
14 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
who you see this ?

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Hey SP, quick question for you… it is been 11 days since I started my TEST-C n D-BOL cycle… and my appetite is gone! I am feeling nauseous the whole day … it started two days ago … do you think it can be dose-related with my D-BOL? I am using 50mg/day… I really would not like to stop using it … I gain 6 pounds already and I am feeling my muscles much more “full” … is there anything I could take to help with that? I might decrease the amount… but I do not think it is gonna be worthy … thinking in terms of results…

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Hey shadow, this is more of a curiosity question but, how is it that most pros bodybuilding/physique have no acne ? Is it the way they stack? Antibiotics or other compounds?

I have read that some take Accutane but, it seems that the effects steroids may have on the liver would only be made worse by Accutane?

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[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey SP, quick question for you… it is been 11 days since I started my TEST-C n D-BOL cycle… and my appetite is gone! I am feeling nauseous the whole day … it started two days ago … do you think it can be dose-related with my D-BOL? I am using 50mg/day… I really would not like to stop using it … I gain 6 pounds already and I am feeling my muscles much more “full” … is there anything I could take to help with that? I might decrease the amount… but I do not think it is gonna be worthy … thinking in terms of results…[/quote]

if your appetite has went away it is most likely the Dbol. i know for me if i take 50mg at once orally of any PED i lose my appetite. What helps me is splitting the dose. 25mg in the morning and 25mg pre-workout or if an off day some time in the later afternoon.

if you are already doing this then take it 3x per day. if it still kills the appetite and you’re dead set on Dbol, injectable forms are pretty nice and you dont have to use much to get the same result as with any injectable vs oral.

I’m 99% sure SP will concur with this.

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Hi shadow…wanted to ask a few brief questions. In the process of planning my next cycle. cycle will be a bulking cycle. Firstly im considering adding EQ to the cycle mainly for increased appetite and vascularity. do you rate EQ? as it seems to get mixed opinions. Never ran it myself. so curious to you opinion on it? if i add it. it would be ran around 750mg for around 16 weeks+ along with test and tren ace and oxys.

second question is about insulin. Also considering addinf some insulin into next cycle. would be first time running insulin. i understand it needs to be treated with respect and ran properly or it can be dangerous im doing as much research on insulin use as i can. what would be an ideal dosage in your opinion and do you prefer pre or post workout? would be using humalog and trying to workout the best pre or post workout nutrition around the insulin use. any help would be appreciated. i was going to go with around 8-10g carbs per iu. do you think in your opinion insulin use makes a big difference to a cycle and the effectiveness of gains etc.

last question was about HGH will be running this on next cycle (and beyond). what is the ideal time to take HGH in your opinion? thinking of starting around 6iu and working up if i can. any help surrounding insulin and HGH would be highly appreciated. Many thanks as always shadow…

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[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey SP, quick question for you… it is been 11 days since I started my TEST-C n D-BOL cycle… and my appetite is gone! I am feeling nauseous the whole day … it started two days ago … do you think it can be dose-related with my D-BOL? I am using 50mg/day… I really would not like to stop using it … I gain 6 pounds already and I am feeling my muscles much more “full” … is there anything I could take to help with that? I might decrease the amount… but I do not think it is gonna be worthy … thinking in terms of results…[/quote]

if your appetite has went away it is most likely the Dbol. i know for me if i take 50mg at once orally of any PED i lose my appetite. What helps me is splitting the dose. 25mg in the morning and 25mg pre-workout or if an off day some time in the later afternoon.

if you are already doing this then take it 3x per day. if it still kills the appetite and you’re dead set on Dbol, injectable forms are pretty nice and you dont have to use much to get the same result as with any injectable vs oral.

I’m 99% sure SP will concur with this.[/quote]

Hey ty_ty13, thx for the input… Actually I was spliting the amount (50mg) in 5 doses! I talked to a friend and he suggested that I start taking a drug called Silimalon (methionine with silimarine) together with the D-Bol… and reduce it for 30mg/day… I will try that… restart on Monday … the injectable version I have here in Brazil is not “trustable”

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[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey SP, quick question for you… it is been 11 days since I started my TEST-C n D-BOL cycle… and my appetite is gone! I am feeling nauseous the whole day … it started two days ago … do you think it can be dose-related with my D-BOL? I am using 50mg/day… I really would not like to stop using it … I gain 6 pounds already and I am feeling my muscles much more “full” … is there anything I could take to help with that? I might decrease the amount… but I do not think it is gonna be worthy … thinking in terms of results…[/quote]

if your appetite has went away it is most likely the Dbol. i know for me if i take 50mg at once orally of any PED i lose my appetite. What helps me is splitting the dose. 25mg in the morning and 25mg pre-workout or if an off day some time in the later afternoon.

if you are already doing this then take it 3x per day. if it still kills the appetite and you’re dead set on Dbol, injectable forms are pretty nice and you dont have to use much to get the same result as with any injectable vs oral.

I’m 99% sure SP will concur with this.[/quote]

Hey ty_ty13, thx for the input… Actually I was spliting the amount (50mg) in 5 doses! I talked to a friend and he suggested that I start taking a drug called Silimalon (methionine with silimarine) together with the D-Bol… and reduce it for 30mg/day… I will try that… restart on Monday … the injectable version I have here in Brazil is not “trustable”[/quote]

thats pretty intense to still have nausea and loss of appetite when splitting the dose like that. at this point dropping the overall dose may be your only answer. i know for myself i dont use more than 25mg per day any more because i bloat up like a whale, and the 25mg still gives me noticeable results.

good luck in your findings.

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[quote]jibajanka wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]jibajanka wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]jibajanka wrote:
Hello Shadowpro. Very nice forum you got here, thumps up!

I was wondering, you write often that you would switch arimidex to nolvadex at 20mg/day on cycle? Does nolvadex not lower the igf-1, and it doesn’t block the estrogen, right?
When i did my cycle, only 500mg test e / week. I felt shit, if my adex dose was to low, so i had to much estrogen going on, wasn’t hungry, no energi and stuff, so it seems wierd that you say you would use nolvadex instead? :slight_smile: Not that i say your wrong, but i would like to hear more about why? :slight_smile:

And, is it a must to have cabar on hand, if tren or deca is involved? I heard, and read. That B6 vitamin, should keep prolactin down, if it gets overdosed? What is your opinion? :slight_smile:

Thanks alot, keep up this awesome work!
Have a nice very day[/quote]

Welcome to the forum.

No I do not suggest nolvadex for everyone, for most people it generally works better but it’s all up to personal preference. Nolvadex will not lower your igf1 levels in any significant amount to hurt anything, it will help prevent estrogen side effects better than most other drugs.

You can try the b6 but I always recommend to keep caber on hand as a precautionary measure because once issues with prolactin start up you’ll need something stronger to combat it.
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Thanks for answering so quick ! :slight_smile:

Im still wondering, Nolvadex dosent block the estrogen? Does it make you feel good, while on cycle?

And, I really want to put some mass on this winter so im thinking Deca, Test, and some Dbol would be my choise. Very simple, and run it for lets say 16 weeks or so. But my dealer dosent have caber, never heard of it either. So i guess its not worth it? Unless there is something else like caber? What would you recommend for a mass cycle, if i theres no caber around. Thanks alot :)[/quote]

Please go back into the first thread and read the countless posts about nolvadex and why I prefer it. You are asking me very basic questions and it tells me you haven’t done very much research.

Of your dealer has never heard of caber you might think about finding someone new… That’s pretty basic knowledge. The other option is prami… Not as good but it’ll do the job. If you want me to recommend a mass cycle please post a picture and more info about yourself.
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Yes ofc, sorry.
I am 21 years old, 1.96 meters tall, weighs 104.5 in the morning on an empty stomach.
Bodyfat : ?? Im not sure.
I eat 3,500 calories each day, 240g protein, carbs 350-400, and 100-130 fat.
I train 6-7 times a week, no cardio. Chest / Triceps, Back / Biceps, Shoulders / Traps, and Legs. Repeat. I keep only day off if I feel my body needs to rest.
My goal is to gain some mass over the winter, and get leaner up to the next summer around May 2016.[/quote]

I think you’re very young to start this cycle that you’re suggesting. At this age you can do so much with very little drugs, if at all! I would also suggest to drop a few percentages in body fat before jumping into a mass cycle.

If anything you can try a little bit of test(~500mg/week) and eq(~600mg/week). The first 4-6 weeks you could also throw in some dbol. And don’t forget your nolva and HCG.

Fat consumption should be lowered a bit. The reason for your stretch marks is that you are trying to rush things and your body isn’t ready. I’ve mentioned so many times before that people need to maximize their natural potential before jumping into cycles and in my opinion you have a lot more you can do naturally.

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[quote]jibajanka wrote:
Here’s one more.
And btw, i got alot of stretch marks on my arms, back, legs. All around, its getting out of control in my oppinion. Do you have anything in mind that would help that? I have tried various creams which have been recommended for stretch marks, with no luck.

Thanks :slight_smile: [/quote]

Oh I forgot to mention… The creams won’t help much. Just accept the fact that you have them now! Haha.

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[quote]MikeManos wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]TheresaACP wrote:
Hey ShadowPro, it’s me again. First off, sorry for the late reply, as I never got a chance to thank you for your original reply to my question two months ago (concerning how bodybuilders at your level really eat like, respectively).

So a much belated thanks! =)

FYI: I’ve been out of action for a while because of a really bad leg injury, due to my first shot at kite surfing, and that’s largely the reason for my absence. As a future point of reference for any of your readers here in the forum getting into water sports, a great piece of advice before starting out: Make sure that you are AWAY from any jetties or other land masses before engaging in this sport!

Back to the topic: You pretty much confirmed what I was saying to my boyfriend, that supplements play a significant role with health and that a quality physique can only be built with quality food, not junk food and fast food. I won’t lie, he’s fairly hard headed and still thinks I’m delusional, but at least I got it from the source this time.

So get his response… he emails me this link, along with some choice quotes from Greg Valentino and Ron Harris.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but are there truly some people in your ranks that do it this way??? I can’t believe that anyone could eat that bad and stay healthy and alive long enough to get even close to your level of physique.

Thanks always & keep up the good work,

Theresa[/quote]

If your boyfriend is taking advice from Greg Valentino and Ron Harris (two of the most delusional and useless people in the sport) he deserves everything he gets from being stupid and hard headed. I am not even going to open this link because those names say enough here.

Maybe you should switch boyfriends instead of trying to fix stupidity :wink: haha. Just messin with you (or not)

Thanks for posting![/quote]

If I may, ShadowPro, I would like to pose one question to this young lady…even if dirty bulking and eating fast/junk food really did help an enhanced bodybuilder get bigger quicker and better faster, why would you do it this way when you know that steroids already unfavorably change your lipids and screw up your cholesterol, especially in large doses? Eating crap food, which would now much further accelerate the process atherosclerosis and triglyceride elevation, is about the dumbest thing you could do. It’s like playing Russian roulette with every chamber loaded. (You may want to remind your numb skull boyfriend about that).

But on a separate note, I think I know where this “bodybuilders eat lots of junk food” comment comes from, and unfortunately, it’s a few bad apples in the batch that created it. I don’t want to name names, but I have heard certain former and present pros advocate this style of eating in the off season, and these guys look absolutely horrible when they are in this phase. Bloated, red faced, oily and covered in pimples, they are so water logged from the increased sodium content alone that it makes you wonder how they are still alive from the abuse.

I could care less if bb’s use the gear or not, there are sensible approaches to it that limit compromises to your health. But when coupled with this advice, it becomes downright irresponsible to younger lifters looking for guidance from the pro’s. And I’m talking about younger bb’s already using PED’s; for a natural bb to try this extreme junk food is downright stupidity and ignorance.

By the way ShadowPro, I can understand why you consider Valentino to be a laughing stock to the sport, but what do you have against Ron Harris? For years I’ve received his newsletter, and he seems like a very credible lover and honest participant and follower of the sport (not to mention an astute editor of many articles for many of the most noted bb publications). I met him once in person, here at a gym in MA, and by all accounts, he seemed like a very open and friendly guy who took the time to chat with us. Is there something I should know here?[/quote]

I have my reasons. All I can say is that he’s one of the most hypocritical and backstabbing douchebags in the sport. He has zero actual knowledge about bodybuilding even though he pretends to know a lot. He’s constantly bashing any athletes who are not close to his circle and genuinely earned himself a lot of haters based various bullshit behavior.

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[quote]veniceboy wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
front[/quote]

Here’s what I suggest…

If you’re not doing a show and you just want to gain lean mass I would adjust the cycle as follows:
Test-E @ 600mg/week
Tren-E @ 400mg/week
EQ @ 700mg/week
20mg nolvadex everyday
Caber (only if needed) - at these dosages you are probably fine without it.

No need for Proviron or extreme anti estrogen use if you aren’t competing. For a lean mass phase one anti-e is good enough and it doesn’t seem like you are holding a lot of water or have a tendency to.
You’re fairly lean so size should definitely be the priority if you want to compete in bodybuilding in the future.

GH is always good to add to any cycle too![/quote]

hey shadow

since you gave me some adjustments for my cycle i want to give you a short feedback:

everything is good so far, my appetite is great at the moment. im able to eat 6 clean meals per day if not more. since i lost my job, im able to spend 24hrs per day for the sport. if im not training, eating or sleeping, i watch bodybuilding dvds lol. and i take 1 or to naps everyday.
i gained not much weight since we made the adjustments for my cycle, but almost everyone is telling me im looking bigger and fuller. gained 2-3 pounds. im not focused on weight anyway, but its funny how everybody is focused on the numbers.
also im taking 6-8 ius of Saizen daily…everything is great so far. thx![/quote]

Glad to hear that everything is going well. Remember that bodybuilding is all about illusion and the scale doesn’t mean much for the most part. The leaner you are the bigger you look.

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[quote]No3mani wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
Can you post a current photo.

You are talking about a pretty advanced cycle here so I prefer if I know who I’m talking to before I give such advice.

Absolutely no letrozole instead of arimidex. Can you get nolvadex?

Deca and eq in the same cycle is a bad choice. Compared to the rest of your cycle the test dose is too low and the example in your first cycle is not how you should use HCG. You should use it throughout the cycle. From what you told me your body fat is too high to jump into a hard mass cycle.

It might be the vague post but I’m getting the feeling that you haven’t done a lot of research. However, I am here to help and if you post a picture and more about yourself I can give you my opinion.
[/quote]
yes i can get nolvadex
and i got this cycle
Week Testosterone Equipoise Trenbolone Nolvadex
. Cypionate Enanthate
1 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
2 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
3 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
4 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
5 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
6 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
7 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
8 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
9 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
10 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
11 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
12 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
13 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
14 400mgs/week 600mgs/week 400mgs/week 20mgs ED
who you see this ?[/quote]

HOLY SHIT! This is by far the most ridiculous post I’ve seen here!! You making a joke??

Stay away from steroids, learn how to eat, train and use natural supplements. Maybe this will help you gain some actual muscle!

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[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey SP, quick question for you… it is been 11 days since I started my TEST-C n D-BOL cycle… and my appetite is gone! I am feeling nauseous the whole day … it started two days ago … do you think it can be dose-related with my D-BOL? I am using 50mg/day… I really would not like to stop using it … I gain 6 pounds already and I am feeling my muscles much more “full” … is there anything I could take to help with that? I might decrease the amount… but I do not think it is gonna be worthy … thinking in terms of results…[/quote]

It’s interesting because I know this happens to a lot of people from Anadrol. If separating the dose didn’t help then you might have to lower the dose even though this is a very standard dose. You can try separating it into 10mg doses with meals throughout the day and see if it helps. You can also try ghrp6, it won’t help much with gains but it will help appetite.

Also, as tyty mentioned there’s also injectable dbol that’s much easier on your system. I don’t find it to be as effective but it’s an option. You can always give other orals a try but keep me posted on how this works out for you.

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[quote]maverick88 wrote:
Hey shadow, this is more of a curiosity question but, how is it that most pros bodybuilding/physique have no acne ? Is it the way they stack? Antibiotics or other compounds?

I have read that some take Accutane but, it seems that the effects steroids may have on the liver would only be made worse by Accutane?[/quote]

Quality gear is the first and most important reason. Anything pharmaceutical rather than underground usually keeps this nasty side effect to a minimum.

It’s all about intelligent planning of cycles and regular skin care. Tanning is also a big help.

I’ve never used antibiotics or accutane for that reason… Not sure about what other guys do. Usually we don’t sit around backstage talking about acne, haha.

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[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey SP, quick question for you… it is been 11 days since I started my TEST-C n D-BOL cycle… and my appetite is gone! I am feeling nauseous the whole day … it started two days ago … do you think it can be dose-related with my D-BOL? I am using 50mg/day… I really would not like to stop using it … I gain 6 pounds already and I am feeling my muscles much more “full” … is there anything I could take to help with that? I might decrease the amount… but I do not think it is gonna be worthy … thinking in terms of results…[/quote]

if your appetite has went away it is most likely the Dbol. i know for me if i take 50mg at once orally of any PED i lose my appetite. What helps me is splitting the dose. 25mg in the morning and 25mg pre-workout or if an off day some time in the later afternoon.

if you are already doing this then take it 3x per day. if it still kills the appetite and you’re dead set on Dbol, injectable forms are pretty nice and you dont have to use much to get the same result as with any injectable vs oral.

I’m 99% sure SP will concur with this.[/quote]

I was absent from the forum for a few days but I can see my assistant took care of the answers! Haha.

Good job and excellent answer…I concur!!

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[quote]ginston wrote:
Hi shadow…wanted to ask a few brief questions. In the process of planning my next cycle. cycle will be a bulking cycle. Firstly im considering adding EQ to the cycle mainly for increased appetite and vascularity. do you rate EQ? as it seems to get mixed opinions. Never ran it myself. so curious to you opinion on it? if i add it. it would be ran around 750mg for around 16 weeks+ along with test and tren ace and oxys.

second question is about insulin. Also considering addinf some insulin into next cycle. would be first time running insulin. i understand it needs to be treated with respect and ran properly or it can be dangerous im doing as much research on insulin use as i can. what would be an ideal dosage in your opinion and do you prefer pre or post workout? would be using humalog and trying to workout the best pre or post workout nutrition around the insulin use. any help would be appreciated. i was going to go with around 8-10g carbs per iu. do you think in your opinion insulin use makes a big difference to a cycle and the effectiveness of gains etc.

last question was about HGH will be running this on next cycle (and beyond). what is the ideal time to take HGH in your opinion? thinking of starting around 6iu and working up if i can. any help surrounding insulin and HGH would be highly appreciated. Many thanks as always shadow…[/quote]

The EQ combined with the cycle you mentioned can be a great mass cycle. What dosages are you planning for the other compounds?

Can you post a current picture. If you’re lean enough (~10%) then it might be something to consider but if not I would stay away from insulin. If you decide to do it start with nothing more than 5iu pre workout and build it up from there. GH is always a great idea. For mass gaining purposes use it pre & post workout in equal dosages.

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[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey SP, quick question for you… it is been 11 days since I started my TEST-C n D-BOL cycle… and my appetite is gone! I am feeling nauseous the whole day … it started two days ago … do you think it can be dose-related with my D-BOL? I am using 50mg/day… I really would not like to stop using it … I gain 6 pounds already and I am feeling my muscles much more “full” … is there anything I could take to help with that? I might decrease the amount… but I do not think it is gonna be worthy … thinking in terms of results…[/quote]

if your appetite has went away it is most likely the Dbol. i know for me if i take 50mg at once orally of any PED i lose my appetite. What helps me is splitting the dose. 25mg in the morning and 25mg pre-workout or if an off day some time in the later afternoon.

if you are already doing this then take it 3x per day. if it still kills the appetite and you’re dead set on Dbol, injectable forms are pretty nice and you dont have to use much to get the same result as with any injectable vs oral.

I’m 99% sure SP will concur with this.[/quote]

Hey ty_ty13, thx for the input… Actually I was spliting the amount (50mg) in 5 doses! I talked to a friend and he suggested that I start taking a drug called Silimalon (methionine with silimarine) together with the D-Bol… and reduce it for 30mg/day… I will try that… restart on Monday … the injectable version I have here in Brazil is not “trustable”[/quote]

I agree with this idea. Try and reduce it to 30mg and the silimalon is a good idea. I’m not sure how much it will actually help but it’s worth a try.

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ginston wrote:
Hi shadow…wanted to ask a few brief questions. In the process of planning my next cycle. cycle will be a bulking cycle. Firstly im considering adding EQ to the cycle mainly for increased appetite and vascularity. do you rate EQ? as it seems to get mixed opinions. Never ran it myself. so curious to you opinion on it? if i add it. it would be ran around 750mg for around 16 weeks+ along with test and tren ace and oxys.

second question is about insulin. Also considering addinf some insulin into next cycle. would be first time running insulin. i understand it needs to be treated with respect and ran properly or it can be dangerous im doing as much research on insulin use as i can. what would be an ideal dosage in your opinion and do you prefer pre or post workout? would be using humalog and trying to workout the best pre or post workout nutrition around the insulin use. any help would be appreciated. i was going to go with around 8-10g carbs per iu. do you think in your opinion insulin use makes a big difference to a cycle and the effectiveness of gains etc.

last question was about HGH will be running this on next cycle (and beyond). what is the ideal time to take HGH in your opinion? thinking of starting around 6iu and working up if i can. any help surrounding insulin and HGH would be highly appreciated. Many thanks as always shadow…[/quote]

The EQ combined with the cycle you mentioned can be a great mass cycle. What dosages are you planning for the other compounds?

Can you post a current picture. If you’re lean enough (~10%) then it might be something to consider but if not I would stay away from insulin. If you decide to do it start with nothing more than 5iu pre workout and build it up from there. GH is always a great idea. For mass gaining purposes use it pre & post workout in equal dosages.
[/quote]

dosage wise I was thinking…
test e 750mg ew
EQ 750mg ew
tren ace 100mg ed
dbol 60mg ed or oxy 100mg ed

sure will post up a picture now.

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]jibajanka wrote:
Here’s one more.
And btw, i got alot of stretch marks on my arms, back, legs. All around, its getting out of control in my oppinion. Do you have anything in mind that would help that? I have tried various creams which have been recommended for stretch marks, with no luck.

Thanks :slight_smile: [/quote]

Oh I forgot to mention… The creams won’t help much. Just accept the fact that you have them now! Haha.
[/quote]

What a joker! Hahah, Thanks for your time, and keep up this awesome work, good forum, its very interesting! Have a great day.

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Yo Shadow,

following problem, i’m running 500mg TEST E a week, divided into 2 pins, Wed and Saturday, AM and PM. I inject 2 different labs of which i know that 1 of them is 100% legit pharmaceutical stuff and on the other 1 i have doubts…

my previous cycle was 100% legit pharmaceutical stuff which result me into:
32.5ng/dl on 500mg test e a week on 8th week, the blood was taken around 15hours after the last injection so it was at the highest peek.

my current cycle is the same 500mg test a week, i inject the original stuff at saturday and the one i have doubts on Wednesday.

If i would do a blood test on Thursday, then my levels should be pretty high, taken that both ampulles are legit(?) however if the stuff i inject on wednesday is fake or under dosed then my levels shouldnt be that high since my last injection with legit stuff was on saturday?()

Im currently finishing in Week 5… should i still wait till i do the blood test or there shouldnt be much difference compared to Week 6 and Week 8 anymore?

Thanks in advice!