Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

[quote]Pantera3375 wrote:
Arimidex dosing
Hello shadow… Even tho this is my first forum post, I have been following your q&a threads for a while… My question is regarding arimidex… My cycle is currently 600mg sust and 500mg tren blend per week… I started with .5 mg of arimidex eod and after 2 weeks my nips were getting a lil sore…

So for the last 3 days I decided to up it to .5 ed… I can still feel it but I’m thinking it will take maybe a week or so for things to stabilize… So I don’t want to jump up to a whole mg ed yet cuz I’m not sure I need too… What do you think? Is it common to use a whole mg ed with the type of cycle/dosage I’m running? Am I right that it will take some time for estrogen levels to stabilize and sides will go away soon?

Thanks for your input![/quote]

Since you’re using tren in this cycle you should have caber on hand. The sensitivity in the nipples could be due to prolactin or estrogen issues. I would try switching the arimidex to nolvadex at 20mg/day (in most cases it works better) if this doesn’t work you can try the caber starting at .5 every 3rd day.

1mg of arimidex for this cycle sounds a bit high to me. I’m going to suspect this has something to do with prolactin.

[quote]TheSic wrote:
Hey, I am currently on a cycle with 600 deca p/w. I was hoping it would help out with my arthritic knees but regrettably I am still in quite a great deal of pain. How do you rate deca for problems such as this? Is there any cycle that you think would help? I’ve tried a lot of supplements and even prescription painkillers, but gotten nowhere. The painkillers worked to numb the pain but they are poison to the body. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.[/quote]

Deca cause more fluid retention around the joint which lubricates it a bit more and helps some people with pain. However, it’s not a cure for arthritis. There are a few other drugs that help with collagen synthesis that are possible options to help heal/ease pain, these are anavar and EQ. Some people see good results with these.

My best opinion would be to try pharmaceutical GH and perhaps a peptide called TB500. I’m not a big believer in peptides as you probably know but based on reviews from colleagues I would say it’s worth a shot.

Sorry i worded it wrong I’m doing a 16 week cycle. 8 weeks in.

1 - 4. Dianabol 50mg every training day

1 - 16. testosterone Enanthate - 500mg - pw

1 - 16. deca durabolin - 400mg - pw

This is my current cycle I’m 8 weeks into it. I was just asking if i was to run another mass building cycle after my pct. Would you change anything for my next cycle? or keep doing the same thing. I’ve gained 30 pounds of this cycle and I’m 11% body fat.

thank you.

Hello Shadowpro. Very nice forum you got here, thumps up!

I was wondering, you write often that you would switch arimidex to nolvadex at 20mg/day on cycle? Does nolvadex not lower the igf-1, and it doesn’t block the estrogen, right?
When i did my cycle, only 500mg test e / week. I felt shit, if my adex dose was to low, so i had to much estrogen going on, wasn’t hungry, no energi and stuff, so it seems wierd that you say you would use nolvadex instead? :slight_smile: Not that i say your wrong, but i would like to hear more about why? :slight_smile:

And, is it a must to have cabar on hand, if tren or deca is involved? I heard, and read. That B6 vitamin, should keep prolactin down, if it gets overdosed? What is your opinion? :slight_smile:

Thanks alot, keep up this awesome work!
Have a nice very day

[quote]BB2015 wrote:
Sorry i worded it wrong I’m doing a 16 week cycle. 8 weeks in.

1 - 4. Dianabol 50mg every training day

1 - 16. testosterone Enanthate - 500mg - pw

1 - 16. deca durabolin - 400mg - pw

This is my current cycle I’m 8 weeks into it. I was just asking if i was to run another mass building cycle after my pct. Would you change anything for my next cycle? or keep doing the same thing. I’ve gained 30 pounds of this cycle and I’m 11% body fat.

thank you.[/quote]

I would finish this cycle as is. You need to use these for about 12-16 weeks in order to see the effects. Also, I would suggest taking the dbol everyday and not just on training days.

Next cycle I would suggest EQ over the deca and maybe tren-e and test with it.
Eq @ 750mg/week
Tren-e @ 600mg/week
Test-e @ 750mg/week

Don’t forget your nolvadex and HCG.

Take a minimum of 8-10 weeks off between cycles and do a proper pct. Make sure your health is back in check before starting up again.

Because you are doing long esters I would highly suggest making sure your diet is perfect and even keep some light cardio in your program for health benefits.

[quote]jibajanka wrote:
Hello Shadowpro. Very nice forum you got here, thumps up!

I was wondering, you write often that you would switch arimidex to nolvadex at 20mg/day on cycle? Does nolvadex not lower the igf-1, and it doesn’t block the estrogen, right?
When i did my cycle, only 500mg test e / week. I felt shit, if my adex dose was to low, so i had to much estrogen going on, wasn’t hungry, no energi and stuff, so it seems wierd that you say you would use nolvadex instead? :slight_smile: Not that i say your wrong, but i would like to hear more about why? :slight_smile:

And, is it a must to have cabar on hand, if tren or deca is involved? I heard, and read. That B6 vitamin, should keep prolactin down, if it gets overdosed? What is your opinion? :slight_smile:

Thanks alot, keep up this awesome work!
Have a nice very day[/quote]

Welcome to the forum.

No I do not suggest nolvadex for everyone, for most people it generally works better but it’s all up to personal preference. Nolvadex will not lower your igf1 levels in any significant amount to hurt anything, it will help prevent estrogen side effects better than most other drugs.

You can try the b6 but I always recommend to keep caber on hand as a precautionary measure because once issues with prolactin start up you’ll need something stronger to combat it.

Hi all

Age: 30
Ht: 1.85 M
Wt: 84 KG
BF: 15.2 %
First cycle was 12 weeks
Wk 1-12: 500mg Test Cypionate Weekly
Wk 1-8: 700mg DECA Weekly
Wk 1-4: 20mg Dianabol Daily
Wk 12-14: 50mg Nolv Daily
WK 12-13: 5000IU HCG

now i will start second cycle like this :
WK 1-12 Equipoise 600mg WK
WK 1-4 Anadrol 100mg ED ( training day’s )
WK 1-12 testosterone Cypionate 500mg
WK 1-10 Deca-Durabolin 400mg WK
i will start this cycle on week 4 from stop old cycle any Advice ?
can i use letrozole with the cycle cuz i can’t get arimidex ?

Thanks a lot shadow pro appreciate the information I’ll keep you updated on how my results are in the future im 250pounds now have gained a lot of strength and muscle and just shy of 33 pounds on this cycle.

Kind regards

Bb2015

Another question what should I take the eq, tren e and test ? Days or just every 3rd day?

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]jibajanka wrote:
Hello Shadowpro. Very nice forum you got here, thumps up!

I was wondering, you write often that you would switch arimidex to nolvadex at 20mg/day on cycle? Does nolvadex not lower the igf-1, and it doesn’t block the estrogen, right?
When i did my cycle, only 500mg test e / week. I felt shit, if my adex dose was to low, so i had to much estrogen going on, wasn’t hungry, no energi and stuff, so it seems wierd that you say you would use nolvadex instead? :slight_smile: Not that i say your wrong, but i would like to hear more about why? :slight_smile:

And, is it a must to have cabar on hand, if tren or deca is involved? I heard, and read. That B6 vitamin, should keep prolactin down, if it gets overdosed? What is your opinion? :slight_smile:

Thanks alot, keep up this awesome work!
Have a nice very day[/quote]

Welcome to the forum.

No I do not suggest nolvadex for everyone, for most people it generally works better but it’s all up to personal preference. Nolvadex will not lower your igf1 levels in any significant amount to hurt anything, it will help prevent estrogen side effects better than most other drugs.

You can try the b6 but I always recommend to keep caber on hand as a precautionary measure because once issues with prolactin start up you’ll need something stronger to combat it.
[/quote]

Thanks for answering so quick ! :slight_smile:

Im still wondering, Nolvadex dosent block the estrogen? Does it make you feel good, while on cycle?

And, I really want to put some mass on this winter so im thinking Deca, Test, and some Dbol would be my choise. Very simple, and run it for lets say 16 weeks or so. But my dealer dosent have caber, never heard of it either. So i guess its not worth it? Unless there is something else like caber? What would you recommend for a mass cycle, if i theres no caber around. Thanks alot :slight_smile:

Hey ShadowPro, it’s me again. First off, sorry for the late reply, as I never got a chance to thank you for your original reply to my question two months ago (concerning how bodybuilders at your level really eat like, respectively).

So a much belated thanks! =)

FYI: I’ve been out of action for a while because of a really bad leg injury, due to my first shot at kite surfing, and that’s largely the reason for my absence. As a future point of reference for any of your readers here in the forum getting into water sports, a great piece of advice before starting out: Make sure that you are AWAY from any jetties or other land masses before engaging in this sport!

Back to the topic: You pretty much confirmed what I was saying to my boyfriend, that supplements play a significant role with health and that a quality physique can only be built with quality food, not junk food and fast food. I won’t lie, he’s fairly hard headed and still thinks I’m delusional, but at least I got it from the source this time.

So get his response… he emails me this link, along with some choice quotes from Greg Valentino and Ron Harris.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but are there truly some people in your ranks that do it this way??? I can’t believe that anyone could eat that bad and stay healthy and alive long enough to get even close to your level of physique.

Thanks always & keep up the good work,

Theresa

[quote]No3mani wrote:
Hi all

Age: 30
Ht: 1.85 M
Wt: 84 KG
BF: 15.2 %
First cycle was 12 weeks
Wk 1-12: 500mg Test Cypionate Weekly
Wk 1-8: 700mg DECA Weekly
Wk 1-4: 20mg Dianabol Daily
Wk 12-14: 50mg Nolv Daily
WK 12-13: 5000IU HCG

now i will start second cycle like this :
WK 1-12 Equipoise 600mg WK
WK 1-4 Anadrol 100mg ED ( training day’s )
WK 1-12 testosterone Cypionate 500mg
WK 1-10 Deca-Durabolin 400mg WK
i will start this cycle on week 4 from stop old cycle any Advice ?
can i use letrozole with the cycle cuz i can’t get arimidex ?[/quote]

Can you post a current photo.

You are talking about a pretty advanced cycle here so I prefer if I know who I’m talking to before I give such advice.

Absolutely no letrozole instead of arimidex. Can you get nolvadex?

Deca and eq in the same cycle is a bad choice. Compared to the rest of your cycle the test dose is too low and the example in your first cycle is not how you should use HCG. You should use it throughout the cycle. From what you told me your body fat is too high to jump into a hard mass cycle.

It might be the vague post but I’m getting the feeling that you haven’t done a lot of research. However, I am here to help and if you post a picture and more about yourself I can give you my opinion.

[quote]BB2015 wrote:
Thanks a lot shadow pro appreciate the information I’ll keep you updated on how my results are in the future im 250pounds now have gained a lot of strength and muscle and just shy of 33 pounds on this cycle.

Kind regards

Bb2015[/quote]

You’re welcome. Just a heads up… It seems to me that you are very concentrated on how many pounds you’ve gained in the cycle. This is not a way to gauge progress… You did not gain 33pounds of muscle… No cycle could possibly allow this. What you’re experiencing is mostly water and fat and some muscle.

This might put it into perspective… If I gain 2lbs of muscle per year then I’m happy!

I would suggest looking into your diet, cardio and training because if you gained too much then one of those aspects are going wrong. This should not happen in a cycle.

10-20lbs is the most I would expect someone to gain in a mass cycle where most of it would be coming from water retention.

[quote]BB2015 wrote:
Another question what should I take the eq, tren e and test ? Days or just every 3rd day? [/quote]

For long esters every 3rd day is fine.

[quote]jibajanka wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]jibajanka wrote:
Hello Shadowpro. Very nice forum you got here, thumps up!

I was wondering, you write often that you would switch arimidex to nolvadex at 20mg/day on cycle? Does nolvadex not lower the igf-1, and it doesn’t block the estrogen, right?
When i did my cycle, only 500mg test e / week. I felt shit, if my adex dose was to low, so i had to much estrogen going on, wasn’t hungry, no energi and stuff, so it seems wierd that you say you would use nolvadex instead? :slight_smile: Not that i say your wrong, but i would like to hear more about why? :slight_smile:

And, is it a must to have cabar on hand, if tren or deca is involved? I heard, and read. That B6 vitamin, should keep prolactin down, if it gets overdosed? What is your opinion? :slight_smile:

Thanks alot, keep up this awesome work!
Have a nice very day[/quote]

Welcome to the forum.

No I do not suggest nolvadex for everyone, for most people it generally works better but it’s all up to personal preference. Nolvadex will not lower your igf1 levels in any significant amount to hurt anything, it will help prevent estrogen side effects better than most other drugs.

You can try the b6 but I always recommend to keep caber on hand as a precautionary measure because once issues with prolactin start up you’ll need something stronger to combat it.
[/quote]

Thanks for answering so quick ! :slight_smile:

Im still wondering, Nolvadex dosent block the estrogen? Does it make you feel good, while on cycle?

And, I really want to put some mass on this winter so im thinking Deca, Test, and some Dbol would be my choise. Very simple, and run it for lets say 16 weeks or so. But my dealer dosent have caber, never heard of it either. So i guess its not worth it? Unless there is something else like caber? What would you recommend for a mass cycle, if i theres no caber around. Thanks alot :)[/quote]

Please go back into the first thread and read the countless posts about nolvadex and why I prefer it. You are asking me very basic questions and it tells me you haven’t done very much research.

Of your dealer has never heard of caber you might think about finding someone new… That’s pretty basic knowledge. The other option is prami… Not as good but it’ll do the job. If you want me to recommend a mass cycle please post a picture and more info about yourself.

[quote]TheresaACP wrote:
Hey ShadowPro, it’s me again. First off, sorry for the late reply, as I never got a chance to thank you for your original reply to my question two months ago (concerning how bodybuilders at your level really eat like, respectively).

So a much belated thanks! =)

FYI: I’ve been out of action for a while because of a really bad leg injury, due to my first shot at kite surfing, and that’s largely the reason for my absence. As a future point of reference for any of your readers here in the forum getting into water sports, a great piece of advice before starting out: Make sure that you are AWAY from any jetties or other land masses before engaging in this sport!

Back to the topic: You pretty much confirmed what I was saying to my boyfriend, that supplements play a significant role with health and that a quality physique can only be built with quality food, not junk food and fast food. I won’t lie, he’s fairly hard headed and still thinks I’m delusional, but at least I got it from the source this time.

So get his response… he emails me this link, along with some choice quotes from Greg Valentino and Ron Harris.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but are there truly some people in your ranks that do it this way??? I can’t believe that anyone could eat that bad and stay healthy and alive long enough to get even close to your level of physique.

Thanks always & keep up the good work,

Theresa[/quote]

If your boyfriend is taking advice from Greg Valentino and Ron Harris (two of the most delusional and useless people in the sport) he deserves everything he gets from being stupid and hard headed. I am not even going to open this link because those names say enough here.

Maybe you should switch boyfriends instead of trying to fix stupidity :wink: haha. Just messin with you (or not)

Thanks for posting!

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]jibajanka wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]jibajanka wrote:
Hello Shadowpro. Very nice forum you got here, thumps up!

I was wondering, you write often that you would switch arimidex to nolvadex at 20mg/day on cycle? Does nolvadex not lower the igf-1, and it doesn’t block the estrogen, right?
When i did my cycle, only 500mg test e / week. I felt shit, if my adex dose was to low, so i had to much estrogen going on, wasn’t hungry, no energi and stuff, so it seems wierd that you say you would use nolvadex instead? :slight_smile: Not that i say your wrong, but i would like to hear more about why? :slight_smile:

And, is it a must to have cabar on hand, if tren or deca is involved? I heard, and read. That B6 vitamin, should keep prolactin down, if it gets overdosed? What is your opinion? :slight_smile:

Thanks alot, keep up this awesome work!
Have a nice very day[/quote]

Welcome to the forum.

No I do not suggest nolvadex for everyone, for most people it generally works better but it’s all up to personal preference. Nolvadex will not lower your igf1 levels in any significant amount to hurt anything, it will help prevent estrogen side effects better than most other drugs.

You can try the b6 but I always recommend to keep caber on hand as a precautionary measure because once issues with prolactin start up you’ll need something stronger to combat it.
[/quote]

Thanks for answering so quick ! :slight_smile:

Im still wondering, Nolvadex dosent block the estrogen? Does it make you feel good, while on cycle?

And, I really want to put some mass on this winter so im thinking Deca, Test, and some Dbol would be my choise. Very simple, and run it for lets say 16 weeks or so. But my dealer dosent have caber, never heard of it either. So i guess its not worth it? Unless there is something else like caber? What would you recommend for a mass cycle, if i theres no caber around. Thanks alot :)[/quote]

Please go back into the first thread and read the countless posts about nolvadex and why I prefer it. You are asking me very basic questions and it tells me you haven’t done very much research.

Of your dealer has never heard of caber you might think about finding someone new… That’s pretty basic knowledge. The other option is prami… Not as good but it’ll do the job. If you want me to recommend a mass cycle please post a picture and more info about yourself.
[/quote]

Yes ofc, sorry.
I am 21 years old, 1.96 meters tall, weighs 104.5 in the morning on an empty stomach.
Bodyfat : ?? Im not sure.
I eat 3,500 calories each day, 240g protein, carbs 350-400, and 100-130 fat.
I train 6-7 times a week, no cardio. Chest / Triceps, Back / Biceps, Shoulders / Traps, and Legs. Repeat. I keep only day off if I feel my body needs to rest.
My goal is to gain some mass over the winter, and get leaner up to the next summer around May 2016.


Here’s one more.
And btw, i got alot of stretch marks on my arms, back, legs. All around, its getting out of control in my oppinion. Do you have anything in mind that would help that? I have tried various creams which have been recommended for stretch marks, with no luck.

Thanks :slight_smile:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]TheresaACP wrote:
Hey ShadowPro, it’s me again. First off, sorry for the late reply, as I never got a chance to thank you for your original reply to my question two months ago (concerning how bodybuilders at your level really eat like, respectively).

So a much belated thanks! =)

FYI: I’ve been out of action for a while because of a really bad leg injury, due to my first shot at kite surfing, and that’s largely the reason for my absence. As a future point of reference for any of your readers here in the forum getting into water sports, a great piece of advice before starting out: Make sure that you are AWAY from any jetties or other land masses before engaging in this sport!

Back to the topic: You pretty much confirmed what I was saying to my boyfriend, that supplements play a significant role with health and that a quality physique can only be built with quality food, not junk food and fast food. I won’t lie, he’s fairly hard headed and still thinks I’m delusional, but at least I got it from the source this time.

So get his response… he emails me this link, along with some choice quotes from Greg Valentino and Ron Harris.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but are there truly some people in your ranks that do it this way??? I can’t believe that anyone could eat that bad and stay healthy and alive long enough to get even close to your level of physique.

Thanks always & keep up the good work,

Theresa[/quote]

If your boyfriend is taking advice from Greg Valentino and Ron Harris (two of the most delusional and useless people in the sport) he deserves everything he gets from being stupid and hard headed. I am not even going to open this link because those names say enough here.

Maybe you should switch boyfriends instead of trying to fix stupidity :wink: haha. Just messin with you (or not)

Thanks for posting![/quote]

If I may, ShadowPro, I would like to pose one question to this young lady…even if dirty bulking and eating fast/junk food really did help an enhanced bodybuilder get bigger quicker and better faster, why would you do it this way when you know that steroids already unfavorably change your lipids and screw up your cholesterol, especially in large doses? Eating crap food, which would now much further accelerate the process atherosclerosis and triglyceride elevation, is about the dumbest thing you could do. It’s like playing Russian roulette with every chamber loaded. (You may want to remind your numb skull boyfriend about that).

But on a separate note, I think I know where this “bodybuilders eat lots of junk food” comment comes from, and unfortunately, it’s a few bad apples in the batch that created it. I don’t want to name names, but I have heard certain former and present pros advocate this style of eating in the off season, and these guys look absolutely horrible when they are in this phase. Bloated, red faced, oily and covered in pimples, they are so water logged from the increased sodium content alone that it makes you wonder how they are still alive from the abuse.

I could care less if bb’s use the gear or not, there are sensible approaches to it that limit compromises to your health. But when coupled with this advice, it becomes downright irresponsible to younger lifters looking for guidance from the pro’s. And I’m talking about younger bb’s already using PED’s; for a natural bb to try this extreme junk food is downright stupidity and ignorance.

By the way ShadowPro, I can understand why you consider Valentino to be a laughing stock to the sport, but what do you have against Ron Harris? For years I’ve received his newsletter, and he seems like a very credible lover and honest participant and follower of the sport (not to mention an astute editor of many articles for many of the most noted bb publications). I met him once in person, here at a gym in MA, and by all accounts, he seemed like a very open and friendly guy who took the time to chat with us. Is there something I should know here?

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]veniceboy wrote:
front[/quote]

Here’s what I suggest…

If you’re not doing a show and you just want to gain lean mass I would adjust the cycle as follows:
Test-E @ 600mg/week
Tren-E @ 400mg/week
EQ @ 700mg/week
20mg nolvadex everyday
Caber (only if needed) - at these dosages you are probably fine without it.

No need for Proviron or extreme anti estrogen use if you aren’t competing. For a lean mass phase one anti-e is good enough and it doesn’t seem like you are holding a lot of water or have a tendency to.
You’re fairly lean so size should definitely be the priority if you want to compete in bodybuilding in the future.

GH is always good to add to any cycle too![/quote]

hey shadow

since you gave me some adjustments for my cycle i want to give you a short feedback:

everything is good so far, my appetite is great at the moment. im able to eat 6 clean meals per day if not more. since i lost my job, im able to spend 24hrs per day for the sport. if im not training, eating or sleeping, i watch bodybuilding dvds lol. and i take 1 or to naps everyday.
i gained not much weight since we made the adjustments for my cycle, but almost everyone is telling me im looking bigger and fuller. gained 2-3 pounds. im not focused on weight anyway, but its funny how everybody is focused on the numbers.
also im taking 6-8 ius of Saizen daily…everything is great so far. thx!