Hello
i will do this cycle 6 month
sustanon 1000mg
deca 600mg
trenbolone 300mg
anavar 50mg/day
what should i take to combat side effects?
[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow, do you believe low volume high intensity can build as much muscle as High Volume?
and what’s your view for short cycle? some say short cycle between 6-8 weeks length, when you go into PCT you will more likely recover faster compare to long cycle 10-14 weeks.[/quote]
It depends on your body type. If you are fast twitch dominant then it could possibly work for you.
For bodybuilding purposes I think a combination of medium volume and high intensity would work the best but training programs are very individual so it’s hard to make a general statement that applies to everyone. Lifting heavy weights with high intensity is always a good idea.
As for a short cycle, if you only want to do a 6-8 week cycle only use short esters. If you are using long esters no less than 12 weeks. If you are only doing 1-2 cycles/year then you will recover faster from short cycles but if it’s an ongoing thing doing cycles over and over as a lifestyle then it won’t make much difference in recovery time.
[quote]Cjb6759 wrote:
Hi Shadow,
Read both threads & picked up plenty of great advice.
I compete at the national level over here in the uk, training 15 years used AAS last 4-5 years so around 6-8 cycles in total both offseason (test 500-750g p/w never gone higher then this & npp 400mg p/w) & pre contest usually (test p 300mg p/w, tren A 300mg p/w, mast 300mg p/w with t3/clen).
I am just about to compete this weekend again at the nationals (heavys), & have gotten down to around 5% bf. I saw in your first thread that you recommended a rebound phase/cycle of 12-16 weeks to rebound & gain strength & size like crazy for someone who weighed around 170lbs post show at 7-8%bf,
I am 6ft, 210lbs contest weight now at around 5% bf…
The Cycle you recommended to this person was,
Sus 750mg week
Eq 400mg week
Tren E 400mg week
Hcg 250iu every 3rd day
D Bol or t-Bol first 6-8 weeks (optional)
Nova 20mg a day
I have never done a rebound cycle & feel I would benefit greatly from a good blast of 12-16 weeks to gain as much quality tissue as possible as I need to be a bigger true heavyweight for 2015.
I would then do my full pct & either cruise or come off completely for 8-12 weeks to recover depending on your recommendations…
I am 39years of age & do not want kids by the way.
As any good bodybuilder knows, immediately post show is an ideal time to gain new size/muscle due to extreme low b/f & insulin sensitivity.
Would you recommend the same or similar cycle/dosages above for myself? As you stated it was moderate dosages, or would you recommend slightly higher dosages due to my size/weight & years training &AAS use & whether you think adding gh/insulin to this cycle would be beneficial to gain even more?
Gh would be 4iu day & insulin 5iu pre workout to begin with alongside my plazma intra.
Would be first time for me using insulin & I have done some research from people using slin as well as reading your protocols.
My nutrition post show this week would be
Carbs 600g
Protein 350g
Fats 50g
Are these numbers sufficient to gain without gaining too much fat?
Cheat meal once a week.
Many thanks for your time. [/quote]
GREAT POST! This gave me all of the background info I need and this is what everyone should take note of. Only other thing I would ask is for a few pics to be posted if possible so it will help me to see where your condition is at.
Rebound cycle: the cycle I suggested would work but I want you to taper between the short esters and the long esters. Stay on the short esters after your show for 2 weeks and add the long esters right away, after the 2 weeks you can drop the short esters and continue with the cycle.
The dosages are fine for you. You could possibly increase the EQ and Tren-E to 600mg/week for the last 6-8weeks but only of you are seeing a plateau in gains… If not, keep it at 400mg. The dosages you are using right now are fairly moderate so even a small increase after the show will give you a big jump.
GH would be great if it is real and you can add it right after the show.
Insulin- don’t add this until about 4 weeks post show. Right after the show your insulin sensitivity will be very high so you want to keep the insulin for when progress starts to slow. After the show your body is going to absorb everything you give it, so make sure you’re eating clean food.
Macros look pretty good to me and you can gradually add carbs after the show. I’m not sure what your carb intake is like right now but I wouldn’t jump to 600 right away, just slowly increase it by 50-100g every week to start with. Post some pictures and I can give you more accurate numbers, it really depends on your body type and how you train.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Shadow,
When switching between long esters to short do you allow any time to pass before starting the short? Going from Sustanon 250 to Test Prop to start reducing any water weight is my specific question. Would you do your normal amount of Sustanon wait 2 days and then start the Test Prop or wait a little longer to let the longer esters to wear off.
Thank you![/quote]
I would just wait two says and then start the test prop, don’t wait any longer. The water weight will go down with a proper diet and cardio… The only time you use both together is when you are doing the opposite, meaning to stay on short esters until the long kick in.
[quote]gilmarpersonal wrote:
what do you think about my off season diet
meal 1 8:00
eggs
whey protein
olive oil
fish oil
meal 2 pre and intra workout 11:00
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 3 post workout 12:30
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 4 1:30
chicken
pasta
fish oil
meal 5 5:30
whey protein
oats
fruits
fish oil
coconut oil
meal 6 9:30
eggs
whey
cottage
olive oil
fish o[/quote]
Food choices are good… But I need to know the amounts of each food, this is just a list of food.
[quote]rickbarbosi wrote:
Hello
i will do this cycle 6 month
sustanon 1000mg
deca 600mg
trenbolone 300mg
anavar 50mg/day
what should i take to combat side effects?[/quote]
Please post a picture along with your current diet and training if you want a serious answer.
I’m not sure if you are joking but this doesn’t seem like a serious question. If you’ve read any of my thread you would know this mixture of compounds is something I would never recommend.
A 24 week cycle???
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Cjb6759 wrote:
Hi Shadow,
Read both threads & picked up plenty of great advice.
I compete at the national level over here in the uk, training 15 years used AAS last 4-5 years so around 6-8 cycles in total both offseason (test 500-750g p/w never gone higher then this & npp 400mg p/w) & pre contest usually (test p 300mg p/w, tren A 300mg p/w, mast 300mg p/w with t3/clen).
I am just about to compete this weekend again at the nationals (heavys), & have gotten down to around 5% bf. I saw in your first thread that you recommended a rebound phase/cycle of 12-16 weeks to rebound & gain strength & size like crazy for someone who weighed around 170lbs post show at 7-8%bf,
I am 6ft, 210lbs contest weight now at around 5% bf…
The Cycle you recommended to this person was,
Sus 750mg week
Eq 400mg week
Tren E 400mg week
Hcg 250iu every 3rd day
D Bol or t-Bol first 6-8 weeks (optional)
Nova 20mg a day
I have never done a rebound cycle & feel I would benefit greatly from a good blast of 12-16 weeks to gain as much quality tissue as possible as I need to be a bigger true heavyweight for 2015.
I would then do my full pct & either cruise or come off completely for 8-12 weeks to recover depending on your recommendations…
I am 39years of age & do not want kids by the way.
As any good bodybuilder knows, immediately post show is an ideal time to gain new size/muscle due to extreme low b/f & insulin sensitivity.
Would you recommend the same or similar cycle/dosages above for myself? As you stated it was moderate dosages, or would you recommend slightly higher dosages due to my size/weight & years training &AAS use & whether you think adding gh/insulin to this cycle would be beneficial to gain even more?
Gh would be 4iu day & insulin 5iu pre workout to begin with alongside my plazma intra.
Would be first time for me using insulin & I have done some research from people using slin as well as reading your protocols.
My nutrition post show this week would be
Carbs 600g
Protein 350g
Fats 50g
Are these numbers sufficient to gain without gaining too much fat?
Cheat meal once a week.
Many thanks for your time. [/quote]
GREAT POST! This gave me all of the background info I need and this is what everyone should take note of. Only other thing I would ask is for a few pics to be posted if possible so it will help me to see where your condition is at.
Rebound cycle: the cycle I suggested would work but I want you to taper between the short esters and the long esters. Stay on the short esters after your show for 2 weeks and add the long esters right away, after the 2 weeks you can drop the short esters and continue with the cycle.
The dosages are fine for you. You could possibly increase the EQ and Tren-E to 600mg/week for the last 6-8weeks but only of you are seeing a plateau in gains… If not, keep it at 400mg. The dosages you are using right now are fairly moderate so even a small increase after the show will give you a big jump.
GH would be great if it is real and you can add it right after the show.
Insulin- don’t add this until about 4 weeks post show. Right after the show your insulin sensitivity will be very high so you want to keep the insulin for when progress starts to slow. After the show your body is going to absorb everything you give it, so make sure you’re eating clean food.
Macros look pretty good to me and you can gradually add carbs after the show. I’m not sure what your carb intake is like right now but I wouldn’t jump to 600 right away, just slowly increase it by 50-100g every week to start with. Post some pictures and I can give you more accurate numbers, it really depends on your body type and how you train.[/quote]
Many thanks for the reply shadow…
I’ll post up pics after the weekend for you to get a more accurate guide of where I’m at,
I’ve been dieting on between 250g & 300g carbs so I can gradually increase these numbers post show until I get to 600g & monitor from there.
Would you recommend 4iu for the gh or go to 6iu post workout for mass?
Thanks again
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]rickbarbosi wrote:
Hello
i will do this cycle 6 month
sustanon 1000mg
deca 600mg
trenbolone 300mg
anavar 50mg/day
what should i take to combat side effects?[/quote]
Please post a picture along with your current diet and training if you want a serious answer.
I’m not sure if you are joking but this doesn’t seem like a serious question. If you’ve read any of my thread you would know this mixture of compounds is something I would never recommend.
A 24 week cycle???
[/quote]
i train has 10 years i will compete 2x per year here is my diet
monday pecs(5 exercises)
tuesday back (6 exercises)
wednesday delts/traps (5 and 2 exercises)
thursday legs and calves (6 and 3 exercises)
friday arms ( 6 exercises)
all exercises 5x 15,12,10,8,6
i will use with my cycle 250 iu hcg 2x week more 1mg arimidex ed and nolvadex 20mg ed
diet
breakfeast
300gr yougurt
100gr granola
100gr vp2
meal 2
100gr vp2
100gr oats
meal 3
200gr rice cooked
300gr chicken
salad
meal 4 (2hours pre workout)
200gr sweet potato
1 banana
200gr meat
meal 5 post workout
100gr vp2
100gr dextrose
5gr bcaa
5gr glutamine
meal 6
300gr meat
salada
olive oil
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]gilmarpersonal wrote:
what do you think about my off season diet
meal 1 8:00
eggs 2
whey protein 100gr
olive oil 15ml
fish oil 2gr
meal 2 pre and intra workout 11:00
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 3 post workout 12:30
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 4 1:30
chicken 200gr
pasta 200gr
fish oil 2gr
meal 5 5:30
whey protein 100gr
oats 50gr
fruits 2
fish oil 2gr
coconut oil 20gr
meal 6 9:30
eggs 2
whey 100gr
cottage 100gr
olive oil 15gr
fish o[/quote]
Food choices are good… But I need to know the amounts of each food, this is just a list of food.
[/quote]
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]gilmarpersonal wrote:
what do you think about my off season diet
meal 1 8:00
eggs
whey protein
olive oil
fish oil
meal 2 pre and intra workout 11:00
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 3 post workout 12:30
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 4 1:30
chicken
pasta
fish oil
meal 5 5:30
whey protein
oats
fruits
fish oil
coconut oil
meal 6 9:30
eggs
whey
cottage
olive oil
fish o[/quote]
Food choices are good… But I need to know the amounts of each food, this is just a list of food.
[/quote]
my weight 270pounds
height 6.0
i would like suggestion heavy steroid cycle…as a mr olympia competitor
i have these drugs
testosterone enantate and propionate
dianabol
winstrol
trenbolone enantate and acetate
deca durabolin
arimidex
nolvadex
hcg
my last cycles were 12week on 6 weeks off
enantate testosterone 2000mg/week
deca durabolin 1000mg/week
trenbolone enantate 500mg/week
dianabol 50mg day (first 6 weeks)
winstrol 50mg ed( last 6 weeks)
arimidex 1.5mg
nolvadex 20mg
hcg 250iu 3x week
6 weeks off
clomid 100mg ed
nolvadex 20mg ed
insulin 20 iu post workout
thanks
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow, do you believe low volume high intensity can build as much muscle as High Volume?
and what’s your view for short cycle? some say short cycle between 6-8 weeks length, when you go into PCT you will more likely recover faster compare to long cycle 10-14 weeks.[/quote]
It depends on your body type. If you are fast twitch dominant then it could possibly work for you.
For bodybuilding purposes I think a combination of medium volume and high intensity would work the best but training programs are very individual so it’s hard to make a general statement that applies to everyone. Lifting heavy weights with high intensity is always a good idea.
As for a short cycle, if you only want to do a 6-8 week cycle only use short esters. If you are using long esters no less than 12 weeks. If you are only doing 1-2 cycles/year then you will recover faster from short cycles but if it’s an ongoing thing doing cycles over and over as a lifestyle then it won’t make much difference in recovery time.[/quote]
Hi Shadow, thanks for taking your time and answer my question.
Hello Shadow,
What’s your opinion between solid food protein source/protein shake?
I try to have over 300g of protein per day in this cycle,
My friend ask me to have 24 egg whites, 40oz meat per day and just 2 servings of WHEY isolate.
What if I have at least 6~8 servings of shake and cut a little bit of solid food?
Is real PRO always eat so much solid food everyday?
would i like to know if i can have gyno of DECA DURABOLIN using nolvadex or arimidex!?
[quote]Cjb6759 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]Cjb6759 wrote:
Hi Shadow,
Read both threads & picked up plenty of great advice.
I compete at the national level over here in the uk, training 15 years used AAS last 4-5 years so around 6-8 cycles in total both offseason (test 500-750g p/w never gone higher then this & npp 400mg p/w) & pre contest usually (test p 300mg p/w, tren A 300mg p/w, mast 300mg p/w with t3/clen).
I am just about to compete this weekend again at the nationals (heavys), & have gotten down to around 5% bf. I saw in your first thread that you recommended a rebound phase/cycle of 12-16 weeks to rebound & gain strength & size like crazy for someone who weighed around 170lbs post show at 7-8%bf,
I am 6ft, 210lbs contest weight now at around 5% bf…
The Cycle you recommended to this person was,
Sus 750mg week
Eq 400mg week
Tren E 400mg week
Hcg 250iu every 3rd day
D Bol or t-Bol first 6-8 weeks (optional)
Nova 20mg a day
I have never done a rebound cycle & feel I would benefit greatly from a good blast of 12-16 weeks to gain as much quality tissue as possible as I need to be a bigger true heavyweight for 2015.
I would then do my full pct & either cruise or come off completely for 8-12 weeks to recover depending on your recommendations…
I am 39years of age & do not want kids by the way.
As any good bodybuilder knows, immediately post show is an ideal time to gain new size/muscle due to extreme low b/f & insulin sensitivity.
Would you recommend the same or similar cycle/dosages above for myself? As you stated it was moderate dosages, or would you recommend slightly higher dosages due to my size/weight & years training &AAS use & whether you think adding gh/insulin to this cycle would be beneficial to gain even more?
Gh would be 4iu day & insulin 5iu pre workout to begin with alongside my plazma intra.
Would be first time for me using insulin & I have done some research from people using slin as well as reading your protocols.
My nutrition post show this week would be
Carbs 600g
Protein 350g
Fats 50g
Are these numbers sufficient to gain without gaining too much fat?
Cheat meal once a week.
Many thanks for your time. [/quote]
GREAT POST! This gave me all of the background info I need and this is what everyone should take note of. Only other thing I would ask is for a few pics to be posted if possible so it will help me to see where your condition is at.
Rebound cycle: the cycle I suggested would work but I want you to taper between the short esters and the long esters. Stay on the short esters after your show for 2 weeks and add the long esters right away, after the 2 weeks you can drop the short esters and continue with the cycle.
The dosages are fine for you. You could possibly increase the EQ and Tren-E to 600mg/week for the last 6-8weeks but only of you are seeing a plateau in gains… If not, keep it at 400mg. The dosages you are using right now are fairly moderate so even a small increase after the show will give you a big jump.
GH would be great if it is real and you can add it right after the show.
Insulin- don’t add this until about 4 weeks post show. Right after the show your insulin sensitivity will be very high so you want to keep the insulin for when progress starts to slow. After the show your body is going to absorb everything you give it, so make sure you’re eating clean food.
Macros look pretty good to me and you can gradually add carbs after the show. I’m not sure what your carb intake is like right now but I wouldn’t jump to 600 right away, just slowly increase it by 50-100g every week to start with. Post some pictures and I can give you more accurate numbers, it really depends on your body type and how you train.[/quote]
Many thanks for the reply shadow…
I’ll post up pics after the weekend for you to get a more accurate guide of where I’m at,
I’ve been dieting on between 250g & 300g carbs so I can gradually increase these numbers post show until I get to 600g & monitor from there.
Would you recommend 4iu for the gh or go to 6iu post workout for mass?
Thanks again[/quote]
If it’s your first time using GH, start with 4iu and bump it up to 6 after 4 weeks. If you’ve already used it and have experience then you can start with 6 right away. Do it post workout.
If you’re dieting at 250-300g of carbs then start with 300g for the first week post show and then bump it up slowly from there.
Looking forward to seeing your pictures & good luck this weekend.
[quote]rickbarbosi wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]rickbarbosi wrote:
Hello
i will do this cycle 6 month
sustanon 1000mg
deca 600mg
trenbolone 300mg
anavar 50mg/day
what should i take to combat side effects?[/quote]
Please post a picture along with your current diet and training if you want a serious answer.
I’m not sure if you are joking but this doesn’t seem like a serious question. If you’ve read any of my thread you would know this mixture of compounds is something I would never recommend.
A 24 week cycle???
[/quote]
i train has 10 years i will compete 2x per year here is my diet
monday pecs(5 exercises)
tuesday back (6 exercises)
wednesday delts/traps (5 and 2 exercises)
thursday legs and calves (6 and 3 exercises)
friday arms ( 6 exercises)
all exercises 5x 15,12,10,8,6
i will use with my cycle 250 iu hcg 2x week more 1mg arimidex ed and nolvadex 20mg ed
diet
breakfeast
300gr yougurt
100gr granola
100gr vp2
meal 2
100gr vp2
100gr oats
meal 3
200gr rice cooked
300gr chicken
salad
meal 4 (2hours pre workout)
200gr sweet potato
1 banana
200gr meat
meal 5 post workout
100gr vp2
100gr dextrose
5gr bcaa
5gr glutamine
meal 6
300gr meat
salada
olive oil
[/quote]
Diet is all over the place, food choices are not ideal and I don’t even know where to start. No intraworkout nutrition, too much dairy, bad post workout meal, fat is too high and wrong nutritional timing. Cycle is way too long and wrong choices of compounds and dosages.
From what I see you don’t have enough knowledge or experience to be thinking about doing a cycle right now. I think we might have a language barrier here so if you can post a picture it will help me a lot to make more suggestions.
[quote]gilmarpersonal wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]gilmarpersonal wrote:
what do you think about my off season diet
meal 1 8:00
eggs
whey protein
olive oil
fish oil
meal 2 pre and intra workout 11:00
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 3 post workout 12:30
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 4 1:30
chicken
pasta
fish oil
meal 5 5:30
whey protein
oats
fruits
fish oil
coconut oil
meal 6 9:30
eggs
whey
cottage
olive oil
fish o[/quote]
Food choices are good… But I need to know the amounts of each food, this is just a list of food.
[/quote]
my weight 270pounds
height 6.0
i would like suggestion heavy steroid cycle…as a mr olympia competitor
i have these drugs
testosterone enantate and propionate
dianabol
winstrol
trenbolone enantate and acetate
deca durabolin
arimidex
nolvadex
hcg
my last cycles were 12week on 6 weeks off
enantate testosterone 2000mg/week
deca durabolin 1000mg/week
trenbolone enantate 500mg/week
dianabol 50mg day (first 6 weeks)
winstrol 50mg ed( last 6 weeks)
arimidex 1.5mg
nolvadex 20mg
hcg 250iu 3x week
6 weeks off
clomid 100mg ed
nolvadex 20mg ed
insulin 20 iu post workout
thanks[/quote]
Please post pictures.
First thing I would suggest before seeing you is
-Lower the fat in your diet.
-Do first serving of MAG-10 30min before breakfast and your second serving post workout.
-Have 2 servings of Plazma preworkout and 4 intra.
-Replace cottage cheese with another protein source.
[quote]gilmarpersonal wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]gilmarpersonal wrote:
what do you think about my off season diet
meal 1 8:00
eggs
whey protein
olive oil
fish oil
meal 2 pre and intra workout 11:00
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 3 post workout 12:30
3 servings Plazma
1 serving MAG-10
meal 4 1:30
chicken
pasta
fish oil
meal 5 5:30
whey protein
oats
fruits
fish oil
coconut oil
meal 6 9:30
eggs
whey
cottage
olive oil
fish o[/quote]
Food choices are good… But I need to know the amounts of each food, this is just a list of food.
[/quote]
my weight 270pounds
height 6.0
i would like suggestion heavy steroid cycle…as a mr olympia competitor
i have these drugs
testosterone enantate and propionate
dianabol
winstrol
trenbolone enantate and acetate
deca durabolin
arimidex
nolvadex
hcg
my last cycles were 12week on 6 weeks off
enantate testosterone 2000mg/week
deca durabolin 1000mg/week
trenbolone enantate 500mg/week
dianabol 50mg day (first 6 weeks)
winstrol 50mg ed( last 6 weeks)
arimidex 1.5mg
nolvadex 20mg
hcg 250iu 3x week
6 weeks off
clomid 100mg ed
nolvadex 20mg ed
insulin 20 iu post workout
thanks[/quote]
Without posting a picture I can’t take this post seriously. Your dosages are ridiculously high! I can tell you right now without even knowing you that I’d cut your dosages in half.
Are you a pro bodybuilder and this is your career? If not, I’m not sure why the hell you would take so much.
If you want a serious answer please post a picture otherwise you’re wasting my time and yours.
[quote]doom44 wrote:
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
[quote]doom44 wrote:
Hi Shadow, do you believe low volume high intensity can build as much muscle as High Volume?
and what’s your view for short cycle? some say short cycle between 6-8 weeks length, when you go into PCT you will more likely recover faster compare to long cycle 10-14 weeks.[/quote]
It depends on your body type. If you are fast twitch dominant then it could possibly work for you.
For bodybuilding purposes I think a combination of medium volume and high intensity would work the best but training programs are very individual so it’s hard to make a general statement that applies to everyone. Lifting heavy weights with high intensity is always a good idea.
As for a short cycle, if you only want to do a 6-8 week cycle only use short esters. If you are using long esters no less than 12 weeks. If you are only doing 1-2 cycles/year then you will recover faster from short cycles but if it’s an ongoing thing doing cycles over and over as a lifestyle then it won’t make much difference in recovery time.[/quote]
Hi Shadow, thanks for taking your time and answer my question.
[/quote]
You’re welcome! I appreciate the quality questions that I receive here.
[quote]tjames20 wrote:
Read through most of the old thread as well as this, thank you so much for helping everyone out. Question from a drug standpoint and validity behind muscle memory.
About three years ago, when I started cycling I hit about 215 and 13% body fat. Ran about 3 cycles back then and I was very pleased with myself physique wise.
Here I am 3 years later after a severe bout of depression and an eating disorder and I’m all the way down to 143 lbs and about 9% BF. I’m 5’9" 26 years old. Needless to say, I look awful. I have pictures from then and now that I can add when I get to a computer.
What route would you suggest to get back to where I was? It’s depressing looking at how I looked before and how I look now. I’m back in the gym, lifting hard again.
At what point would you recommend hopping back on cycle? It’s hard to remember exactly how I approached things the first time around.
Diet is back on point. Slowly gaining at around 2300 cals a day. Mainly eating chicken, eggs, cottage cheese, oats, fruit, and veggies, iso-caloric.
All 3 cycles I ran previously were test only
[/quote]
The before and after photos would be great so I can see the difference. Muscle memory definitely exists and it’s easier to rebuild muscle that you’ve lost than building new muscle. I would suggest anywhere between 10-14 weeks of gradually increasing training frequency and intensity and at the same time increasing your calories (obviously clean food)
Supplements that can help you… These will help you gain the muscle back much faster and efficiently even before starting a cycle. You don’t want to start a cycle again until you’re back at your physical peak naturally, or at least close to to.
-Plazma intraworkout 2-3 servings
-micro-pa 6 capsules 60 min preworkout
-AlphaMale 4 caps/day to increase natural test levels before starting cycle again
These alone will give you a good kickstart and help you gain quality weight back. You can keep me updated here with progress and I will reassess and build a cycle that’s suitable for you when you’re ready. I highly suggest waiting these 10-14 weeks before starting a cycle. When you start a new cycle it will be like a first time cycle, probably test and possibly a mild oral… The pics will help me decide.
[quote]CWLin wrote:
Hello Shadow,
What’s your opinion between solid food protein source/protein shake?
I try to have over 300g of protein per day in this cycle,
My friend ask me to have 24 egg whites, 40oz meat per day and just 2 servings of WHEY isolate.
What if I have at least 6~8 servings of shake and cut a little bit of solid food?
Is real PRO always eat so much solid food everyday?[/quote]
If you’re trying to have about 300g of protein each day then about 1/2 of it should come from solid food and the rest can come from quality supplements… I count egg whites as a liquid protein because you can just drink them.
Intraworkout, post workout and morning I would use liquid sources… Breakfast: egg whites Intraworkout: Plazma Post Workout: MAG-10 And have 3-4 solid meals throughout the day.
There’s no right or wrong here, it really depends on your nutritional timing. Some meals liquid is a superior source (ex: Plazma intraworkout). Obviously I wouldn’t recommend to drink 8 shakes a day because you should have lots of variety.