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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
The OP’s posting style is a little TOO different from headhunter’s, thats what stands out at first sight.

A little too difefrent :slight_smile:

If that was intentional, nice work HH :slight_smile:
I suppose the “old white man using beat-up obese sistas as an avatar to draw attention towards and poke fun at the burgeoning incidence of obesity in african-american females” motif has something to do with your past on PWI.[/quote]

You’re kidding, right? I respect Clip a lot. I grew up in Detroit so I know his approximate circumstances. To be obviously literate and quite rational while growing up in such circumstances is an accomplishment (HP is a pretty depressed area). But I am not him.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

You’re kidding, right? I respect Clip a lot. I grew up in Detroit so I know his approximate circumstances. To be obviously literate and quite rational while growing up in such circumstances is an accomplishment (HP is a pretty depressed area). But I am not him.
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Like hell you’re not - this is definitely your handiwork. Let’s examine the evidence, shall we? You made no secret of your scorn for black people in your “Willie Lynch” thread, and now you’re praising Clip for being “obviously literate and quite rational”, which at first could be taken simply as an attempt to throw people off the scent.

However, we’re talking about the mighty Headhunter here, so the rabbit hole runs much deeper than that: the real purpose behind that comment is to lure people into saying that he isn’t literate or rational.

Here’s where it starts to get interesting. It goes without saying that you’re an Ayn Rand fanatic (God knows you rant about her in nearly all of your posts). Rand emphasizes the importance of individualism, and suggests that the theory of collectivism (group mentality) limits the development of individual thought.

Many Rand devotees consider the black community to be mired in collective thinking. Their reasoning for this is that the black community are unable to embrace individualism because they cannot, or refuse, to move on from the legacy of slavery left by their ancestors: Randism implies that physical slavery endured by the parent becomes mental enslavement for the child(which by a not-so-strange coincidence, was the purpose behind the Willie Lynch debacle).

Your M.O. revolves around the idea that modern blacks cannot escape the shackles of their past, and your posts frequently promote this; no matter how subtle, it is usually present. You do this because the idea that blacks should actually give a fuck about the treatment of their forebears is inherently “un-Randian”.

It’s nothing more than intellectual racism.

The fact that you used to live in Detroit just shows that you’re in a position to etch in the necessary detail to Clip’s back story to give it some authenticity.

I think that’s enough for now. Suffice to say, your denial couldn’t be more incriminating.

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[quote]Vulf wrote:
That is awesome Brother, setting new standards make you a happy Man.[/quote]

It’s Svend Karlsen the Second!

Dude, you’re fucking huge!

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

You’re kidding, right? I respect Clip a lot. I grew up in Detroit so I know his approximate circumstances. To be obviously literate and quite rational while growing up in such circumstances is an accomplishment (HP is a pretty depressed area). But I am not him.
[/quote]

Like hell you’re not - this is definitely your handiwork. Let’s examine the evidence, shall we? You made no secret of your scorn for black people in your “Willie Lynch” thread, and now you’re praising Clip for being “obviously literate and quite rational”, which at first could be taken simply as an attempt to throw people off the scent.

However, we’re talking about the mighty Headhunter here, so the rabbit hole runs much deeper than that: the real purpose behind that comment is to lure people into saying that he isn’t literate or rational.

Here’s where it starts to get interesting. It goes without saying that you’re an Ayn Rand fanatic (God knows you rant about her in nearly all of your posts). Rand emphasizes the importance of individualism, and suggests that the theory of collectivism (group mentality) limits the development of individual thought.

Many Rand devotees consider the black community to be mired in collective thinking. Their reasoning for this is that the black community are unable to embrace individualism because they cannot, or refuse, to move on from the legacy of slavery left by their ancestors: Randism implies that physical slavery endured by the parent becomes mental enslavement for the child(which by a not-so-strange coincidence, was the purpose behind the Willie Lynch debacle).

Your M.O revolves around the idea that modern blacks cannot escape the shackles of their past, and your posts frequently promote this; no matter how subtle, it is usually present. You do this because the idea that blacks should actually give a fuck about the treatment of their forebears is inherently “un-Randian”.

It amounts to nothing more than intellectual racism.

The fact that you used to live in Detroit just shows that your in a position to etch in the necessary detail to Clip’s back story to give it some authenticity.

I think that’s enough for now. Suffice to say, your denial couldn’t be more incriminating.[/quote]
If that is true, and I have no idea if it is, is there no way for the mods to look at the ip address. Is there nothing that can be done to prevent people from creating multiple accounts?

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[quote]deadlift655 wrote:

If that is true, and I have no idea if it is, is there no way for the mods to look at the ip address. Is there nothing that can be done to prevent people from creating multiple accounts?[/quote]

This site is rife with people abusing multiple accounts. IP detection can be avoided by registering and posting in separate locations. If you’re in any doubt about what I said, check Clip11 and Headhunter’s respective thread histories. Keep in mind what I said in my last post, and you’ll see the pieces of the puzzle fall into place. I’m not the first person to realize they are the same guy.

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Beautiful. if I ever get reinstated with the feds (as if), I may call on your services.

His “obviously literate and quite rational” comment is merely to FURTHER discredit a certain section of the population, clearly embodied by clip11 - but the “born in detroit, as was I” headfake is classic Headhunter. Leave your motives somewhat hazy, and people will trip over themselves inadvertently glorifying your agenda - all the time under the illusion that they’re really uncovering your tracks.

[quote]roybot wrote:

and now you’re praising Clip for being “obviously literate and quite rational”, which at first could be taken simply as an attempt to throw people off the scent. [/quote]

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[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Your goal should be to acquire the camera that you couldn’t beg, borrow or steal when you first joined over a year ago.[/quote]

This guy steady makes shit up. He’s been claiming some pretty big numbers since he got here, and they’ve stayed the same so either he’s plateaud or he’s full of shit.[/quote]

Look at my pics, im the mist diesel 177 pound guy you ever saw in your life maybe. Not only that when i went to the doctor, I had high t levels and my resting heart rate was that of an athlete.
I drink and smoke sometime and eat whatever whenever. Are you jealous that you bust your ass and I dont but still am better than you in the iron dept?[/quote]

I haven’t read any of the other nonsense you’ve spewed all over this thread 'cause I had to address this first. We weigh about the same and I’m leaner and more muscular than you and when fresh I can incline the hundos for 6, and I’m not exceptionally lean or muscular. Not saying that that directly leads to my being stronger but you are nowhere near the “mist diesel 177 pound guy I ever seen in my life.” You’re either a troll or delusional, or both.

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There’s a whole lot of internet Sherlock Holmes going on in this thread.

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[quote]Matsa wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]silkyhorse wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]silkyhorse wrote:
I’m having a hard time believing that a small guy like Bruce Lee could bench press 300lbs.
Is that even possible for his size? I asked my coach about the idea of me benching 300, and he just told me to forget about it if I don’t plan on moving up a weight division. I am about 155lbs.[/quote]

I can’t confirm his numbers, but Bruce Lee did a lot of supplemental work on strengthening his bones and connective tissue (I recall he used a lot of isometrics), so that aspect of his training could’ve pushed up his poundages. [/quote]
Alright, thank you for the answer.[/quote]

You’re welcome, Silky. As I said, I can’t confirm that Lee could press 300Ibs. Chinese Shaolin monks have demonstrated incredible feats of of strength and durability for centuries.

Many of these feats have been explained away as nothing more than parlor tricks - pretty much the equivalent of modern day illusionists- and many of these same tricks were part of Bruce Lee’s reportoire. However, these “miracles” usually require years of intensive training and conditioning.

This links in with some early strongman acts, which were also not as impressive as they first appeared: audiences were amazed by strongmen smashing rocks with their bare hands (in reality they were breaking porous limestone, which was far easier to break than normal rock).

Strongmen also wowed onlookers by snapping a chain fastened around their chest by muscle flexion alone (all that was required to make this trick a success was a suitably weak and tight-fitting chain… well-practised chest expansion would do the rest).

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I’m pretty sure that those “300 3x8 on bench” numbers are bogus. Joe Lewis (who was Bruce’s private student, friend, and prize student, who I’ve had the good fortune to train with) has never once mentioned Lee performing this feat (and Joe’s a huge strength and conditioning fanatic, so if he had I think Joe would have mentioned it). He’s mentioned some other pretty impressive feats of strength, but never this one.

I’ll ask him next time I get the chance to train with him to either confirm or deny those numbers though, just to be sure.

Keep in mind that wikipedia can be edited/imputed into by any one. There really are no checks and balances to make sure the information is authentic.
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You’ve trained with Joe Lewis? Hah, I’ll admit to a slight bit of envy, the man’s a living legend.[/quote]

Yeah, several times. My instructors are high ranking black belts under him and the ground combat advisers for his “JLFS”. Joe is also part owner in iCAT, a conglomeration of martial artists/arts created by Shihan Lysak and Rich Ryan. Joe comes out at least once a year to do a seminar, so I get to train with him at least that often.

Dare I say the guy is even more impressive when he’s standing in front of you. Ridiculous speed and power for his (heck any) age. Also a walking encyclopedia of martial arts and a fantastic teacher on top of all that. If you ever get the chance to train with him, definitely do it.

Hopefully soon I’ll get a chance to train with Wallace as well. He was supposed to come out to last year’s seminar camp, but couldn’t make it.

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Such a waste of bandwith. Such a waste.

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First, let’s be clear; I’m not hating or jealous. As a powerlifter, there is no room for that - there are too many strong guys around and really, all you can do is admire it and try to be your personal best. The first scent of manure I detect is the alleged lack of powerlifting in Detroit. There may not be a PL gym or group near you, but there are meets everywhere. With your 525 alleged deadlift and claimed DB lift, you’d project to do very well. Your alleged numbers are fantastic, but fantastic claims require some proof. If they are real, my hats off to you. But I looked at your picture and I don’t see the frame or the muscle density I’m used to seeing on lean guys with fantastic strength. Those of us who have been around, know what it looks like. And while your build is decent, it does not connote the strength you claim. Post proof and shut everyone up. Or stop making meaningless threads that invite the questions. Am I hating now?

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

You’re kidding, right? I respect Clip a lot. I grew up in Detroit so I know his approximate circumstances. To be obviously literate and quite rational while growing up in such circumstances is an accomplishment (HP is a pretty depressed area). But I am not him.
[/quote]

Like hell you’re not - this is definitely your handiwork. Let’s examine the evidence, shall we? You made no secret of your scorn for black people in your “Willie Lynch” thread, and now you’re praising Clip for being “obviously literate and quite rational”, which at first could be taken simply as an attempt to throw people off the scent.

However, we’re talking about the mighty Headhunter here, so the rabbit hole runs much deeper than that: the real purpose behind that comment is to lure people into saying that he isn’t literate or rational.

Here’s where it starts to get interesting. It goes without saying that you’re an Ayn Rand fanatic (God knows you rant about her in nearly all of your posts). Rand emphasizes the importance of individualism, and suggests that the theory of collectivism (group mentality) limits the development of individual thought.

Many Rand devotees consider the black community to be mired in collective thinking. Their reasoning for this is that the black community are unable to embrace individualism because they cannot, or refuse, to move on from the legacy of slavery left by their ancestors: Randism implies that physical slavery endured by the parent becomes mental enslavement for the child(which by a not-so-strange coincidence, was the purpose behind the Willie Lynch debacle).

Your M.O revolves around the idea that modern blacks cannot escape the shackles of their past, and your posts frequently promote this; no matter how subtle, it is usually present. You do this because the idea that blacks should actually give a fuck about the treatment of their forebears is inherently “un-Randian”.

The fact that you used to live in Detroit just shows that you’re in a position to etch in the necessary detail to Clip’s back story to give it some authenticity.

I think that’s enough for now. Suffice to say, your denial couldn’t be more incriminating.[/quote]

Sherlock Holmes you are not. And yet you truly believe this.

After creating another persona (I even made it quite obvious, using AynRandLover as my handle) I was warned by the mods to not create multiple accounts or I’d be barred from the site. Do you think I would risk coming here, the best site for training/nutrition advice on the planet, to do precisely what I was warned not to do?

But wait! Maybe YOU are me, arguing with myself. Easy to set up through these NSA computers! Well…gooooooolleeeeee…Gomer! You dun figgered it out!

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
First, let’s be clear; I’m not hating or jealous. As a powerlifter, there is no room for that - there are too many strong guys around and really, all you can do is admire it and try to be your personal best. The first scent of manure I detect is the alleged lack of powerlifting in Detroit.

There may not be a PL gym or group near you, but there are meets everywhere. With your 525 alleged deadlift and claimed DB lift, you’d project to do very well. Your alleged numbers are fantastic, but fantastic claims require some proof. If they are real, my hats off to you.

But I looked at your picture and I don’t see the frame or the muscle density I’m used to seeing on lean guys with fantastic strength. Those of us who have been around, know what it looks like. And while your build is decent, it does not connote the strength you claim. Post proof and shut everyone up. Or stop making meaningless threads that invite the questions. Am I hating now?[/quote]

What I want to know is, how did he get the 130’s in place to do the incline DB press in the first place if he usually works out alone? And if he has someone there who is willing to hand him a 130 so he can incline press it, then he shouldn’t have problems asking them to video tape him (much more work/effort to hand him the 130 than to just stand there, point his phone camera at him and press the record button).

I maybe could see him BB incline benching that much (would still be hella strong though) because he could load up the bar and then just unrack the weight and go. But with DB’s he’d have to kick them up into place and then press them from a dead stop in the bottom position. That’s a shit load of weight to be kicking up into position seeing as he only weighs a little over 40 lbs more than each DB.

He’s also allegedly incline DB pressing only 40 lbs and for only 1-2 less reps than he BB flat benches. That would theoretically make his incline BB bench at least close to his flat BB bench, and I haven’t seen too many people where that is the case (maybe if they never ever BB flat bench).

If that lift is legit it’s extremely impressive and he should definitely do a powerlifting meet. But I’d have to see a video to believe it.

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Sigh.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Sherlock Holmes you are not. And yet you truly believe this.

After creating another persona (I even made it quite obvious, using AynRandLover as my handle) I was warned by the mods to not create multiple accounts or I’d be barred from the site. Do you think I would risk coming here, the best site for training/nutrition advice on the planet, to do precisely what I was warned not to do?

But wait! Maybe YOU are me, arguing with myself. Easy to set up through these NSA computers! Well…gooooooolleeeeee…Gomer! You dun figgered it out!
[/quote]

Gee, well let’s see…considering the fact that you’ve just admitted to using multiple accounts in the past (d’oh!), and the fact that you regard yourself as being intellectually superior to everybody else, including the mods (which by, the way, is where you usually slip up), and the fact that Clip has mysteriously stopped posting, then yeah, I guess I do “truly believe it”. Elementary, my dear Headfucker.

Avoiding detection is easily done, as I explained in my last post - if you’d actually bothered to read it.

“Gomer” here still managed to sabotage your Willie Lynch fuckfest before it ever really got going. I don’t recall you denying anything then; I do recall you scuttling away to start another Rand-inspired wankathon, though…

Interesting that you deny being Clip, but don’t deny any of the rest…

I know you’ve invested a lot of time and energy into creating Clip, but don’t you think it’s time to let go and hang up the hookers and handguns for good? The game is up, Moriarty.

You’ll always have the memories…

Actually, can we delete you instead? I think Clip is far more interesting and likeable, to be honest.

P.S. I’m not you. Your choice of swimwear is appalling, but your taste in philosophy is even worse.

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:

His “obviously literate and quite rational” comment is merely to FURTHER discredit a certain section of the population, clearly embodied by clip11 - but the “born in detroit, as was I” headfake is classic Headhunter. Leave your motives somewhat hazy, and people will trip over themselves inadvertently glorifying your agenda - all the time under the illusion that they’re really uncovering your tracks.[/quote]

Precisely. Clip is the brainchild of our resident Rand groupie, no question about it. Remember Clip’s avatar of a gun-toting Malcolm X? A black human rights leader standing at a window with a rifle (surely not -he’s only there in the first place because he’s pissed that his great-great grandfather was a slave - can’t he just let bygones be bygones?) Pure Randian propaganda right there. Headhunter’s antics definitely glorify his agenda, but his true goal is to assert his intellectual mastery over everybody else.

Clip is a perfectly balanced blend of reality and stereotype. It’s an entirely deliberate combination, of course - HH would love nothing more than for somebody to make a poorly-phrased comment about Clip’s lifestyle and start an argument about race. It’s a win-win situation for Headfucker: the person responding to the comment is below him for proving their views are dominated by collective thinking, and the person making the remark is also inferior to him for falling for his ruse in the first place…

Take a look at this trash:

Headfucker makes what seems to be a sincere comment, but what it actually does is justify Clip’s obsession with guns (and propagates yet another black stereotype). He’s literally trying to play both sides (sort of like the movie Yojimbo, but without the samurai), while giving himself a pat on the back for setting himself up as puppet master.

The generally outlandish claims are just a way to draw people in.

In the end, the joke’s on HH, because the malevolent bastard has made himself a slave to ideas that somebody else came up with. So much for independent thinking… Unless he secretly hates Rand, and all his thinly veiled prejudice and misogyny is just one big in-joke to expose the flaws in her ideas. Yeah, that must be it: when 2013 rolls around, HH is going to appear out of nowhere wearing a jester’s outfit, shout “surprise!” and let us all in on the joke. Then all of T-Nation will gather around, differences will be forgotten, hatchets will be buried, and with a rousing “hurrah!” we’ll lift him aloft, carry him through the forums on our shoulders and pay tribute to his comic genius.

Or he might just be a deluded twat. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see on that one.

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I’m off tomorrow, maybe I’ll drive over to high land park (like 20-30 min drive for me) . I’ll be there any time. I’ll even bring a cam to take vid with.

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[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
I’m off tomorrow, maybe I’ll drive over to high land park (like 20-30 min drive for me) . I’ll be there any time. I’ll even bring a cam to take vid with.[/quote]

Perfect! Clip11 will be easy to spot: he’ll be the old white dude, 6’6" tall, around 231 Ibs, bald, and wearing red swimming trunks. Gets off on Ayn Rand.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
I’m off tomorrow, maybe I’ll drive over to high land park (like 20-30 min drive for me) . I’ll be there any time. I’ll even bring a cam to take vid with.[/quote]

Perfect! Clip11 will be easy to spot: he’ll be the old white dude, 6’6" tall, around 231 Ibs, bald, and wearing red swimming trunks.[/quote]

Clip is santa?

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[quote]celtics2022 wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]celtics2022 wrote:
In this thread - hatred and jealousy. Look: a bigger muscle does not equal a stronger muscle. Bruce lee did 315 pounds on the flat bench for 3x8 at a bodyweight of 150. He also curled 80 pound dumbbells for 3x8 at the same bodyweight.

Why are you guys so jealous? Its not cool, man. Especially on christmas.[/quote]

Did you just fucking write that a bigger muscle is not a stronger muscle?[/quote]

I’m just quoting Bruce Lee, bro.

Lee was documented as having well over 2,500 books in his own personal library, and eventually concluded that “A stronger muscle, is a bigger muscle”, a conclusion he later disputed. Bruce forever experimented with his training routines to maximize his physical abilities, and push the human body to its limits. He employed many different routines and exercises including skipping rope, which served his training and bodybuilding purposes effectively.[33]

Chuck Norris states, “Lee, pound for pound, might well have been one of the strongest men in the world, and certainly one of the quickest.”[36][37][38][39][40]

u mad?[/quote]

Chuck Norris has spoken and so it shall be!