A) I don’t think 4 weeks is enough to keep “new gains” ; it might be enough time to reset your metabolism/thyroid but not necessarily new muscle mass, at least not in my opinion
B) I also don’t think you’ll run into the issue of dropping tons of muscle on the V-Diet, but if I were you, I’d run the RFL diet and PM me (give me your email) about something you can use while dieting (not a steroid).[/quote]
Sorry, I meant I will be off MAG-10 for at least 4 weeks, probably much longer.
If anything I’ll reduce calories 500 below maintenance after 6 weeks or so. The V-Diet would be towards the very end of summer, but I’m leaning against it right now after all the feedback.
I also know that I have a very fast metabolism (2220 RMR when I was 40 lbs lighter, tested), so eating 1600-1900 cals on the V-Diet would seem to be a bit too low.
I’ll probably like mentioned do a minor reduction in calories, but I have to say, instant gratification is what got the best of me when thinking of this diet.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
Most people with sporatic diets have no idea how much food they can actually eat while dropping bodyfat. If you simply clean up the diet, and keep the calories at the same level, you lean out quite nicely. Then drop them SLOWLY after that. People with huge rebounds after dieting have usually dropped their calories too low in the diet. Take the calories down conservatively, and keep your muscle.[/quote]
I totally agree with this. The first time I dropped bodyfat I started with carb cycling. I stagnated and went on a low calorie diet, and had good results. But that was years ago, where I found that cutting my carbs didn’t make me loose the muscle mass I had then.
Now I’m finding amazing results returning to carb cycling, and controlling weight drops. I’m even increasing my calories while leaning out.
Have you guys who hated the V-Diet ever gotten ripped successfully, or gotten cut up, using any short term (or long term) diet? Because (for one thing) I think it’s pretty common for guys to casually underestimate their % of body fat. Thus, they might think they need to lose 20 pounds to get ultra ripped, when it might be as much as double that (or more).
Also, some guys may not realize how dropping bodyfat can affect training poundages. I say this because I’ve seen guys comment about how getting ripped was supposedly ‘easy’ but getting big was so much harder. Getting ripped is not easy, IMO, and maybe it’s being underestimated, just how hard it really is.
Because I’ve seen very, very few guys who are really ripped, and I’ve been training for a long time. But I see tons of guys who are somewhat big and mostly shapeless/soft (and that’s what I’m trying to get away from, so i include myself in that group)… not even much defined, let alone ripped.
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So true in my case. I always underestimated my body fat percentage and I thought I would get ripped when I lost about 50lbs from 247lbs to 197lbs (199 yesterday), which did NOT happen.
[quote]esk221 wrote:
Because I want to lose some fat? What’s your point?
I still eat a little over 3000 calories on training days.[/quote]
I was asking because based on the pics you have in your profile, you seem to be very lean already. I thought you prescribe to Prof. X philosophy of size first then recomp later (when having enough size already)?
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Because I want to lose some fat? What’s your point?
I still eat a little over 3000 calories on training days.
I was asking because based on the pics you have in your profile, you seem to be very lean already. I thought you prescribe to Prof. X philosophy of size first then recomp later (when having enough size already)?[/quote]
No offense, but that isn’t “my philosophy”. That is the philosophy of anyone who actually plans on standing out in a crowd. It makes little sense to be overly concerned with how lean you are before any mass has been built.
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Because I want to lose some fat? What’s your point?
I still eat a little over 3000 calories on training days.
I was asking because based on the pics you have in your profile, you seem to be very lean already. I thought you prescribe to Prof. X philosophy of size first then recomp later (when having enough size already)?[/quote]
Not Esk, and I apologize if I shouldn’t be answering this, but he (Esk221) makes his living off his appearance, he can’t afford to go full out bulking.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
hawaiilifterMike wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Because I want to lose some fat? What’s your point?
I still eat a little over 3000 calories on training days.
I was asking because based on the pics you have in your profile, you seem to be very lean already. I thought you prescribe to Prof. X philosophy of size first then recomp later (when having enough size already)?
Not Esk, and I apologize if I shouldn’t be answering this, but he (Esk221) makes his living off his appearance, he can’t afford to go full out bulking.[/quote]
Sorry I forgot he is a professional wrestler and needs to look good majority of the year.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
hawaiilifterMike wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Because I want to lose some fat? What’s your point?
I still eat a little over 3000 calories on training days.
I was asking because based on the pics you have in your profile, you seem to be very lean already. I thought you prescribe to Prof. X philosophy of size first then recomp later (when having enough size already)?
Not Esk, and I apologize if I shouldn’t be answering this, but he (Esk221) makes his living off his appearance, he can’t afford to go full out bulking.[/quote]
If you have a large amount of muscle mass, even if you don’t have a “naturally” fast metabolism: You WILL have a fast metabolism.
People can debate all the want over whether a pound of muscle boosts metabolic rate by 25-75 cals. Fact is, you’ll have a faster-than-usual metabolism if you have a lot of muscle mass. Fact.
So… Why would someone with 200 lbs. or more of LEAN BODY MASS go on a diet designed for someone who had 200 pounds of TOTAL BODY WEIGHT?
Ponder that question, and you shall find your answer.
[quote]Professor X wrote: No offense, but that isn’t “my philosophy”. That is the philosophy of anyone who actually plans on standing out in a crowd. It makes little sense to be overly concerned with how lean you are before any mass has been built.
That’s just plain old common sense.[/quote]
It is indeed troubling that people consider you a controversial figure because you advocate eating a lot while training hard. As if that’s so novel that it must be met with suspicious!
Even Arnold was “fluffy” when he first started gaining muscle.
[quote]Dave_ wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
hawaiilifterMike wrote:
I will work to develop my common sense because I unfortunately was not born with it.
That sucks. Maybe I got yours.
You know what they say about common sense. Not so common.