Screwed Up Bigtime

Going to try and make a long story short. Been using 1cc test per week for 3 months,for maintenance and to give me a edge, in the gym and bedroom. Last month 1cc every 2nd week. Felt like a stallion all the time, anyways 44 205lbs about 10%bf.

Getting ready to cycle off for a few months but wifey booked a vacation,Before I know it I’m on a plane, missed my last shot,but thought when we get to the hotel I can take it.My luggage with my gear is misplaced,I,m in Cuba for two weeks and I have nothing, no hcg or test.First week went great and most of the 2nd week, then I crashed, felt like a 12 year old girl.

Finally arrived back home and my contact is also on vacation for a week. My system has no test and is not producing any test.5 weeks later I take 1 cc test and start hcg,2nd week 1 more shot of test and continue with hcg.I have ZERO sex drive, this is now the third week. Hcg is 11/2cc EOD, should I take more?Be patient?

Got blood tests back and all the Gp would tell me is me test is zero. Would appreciate any help, Wife is ready to kill me.Never did get my luggage back.

Please report HCG in iu’s. MLs or CCs is not informative.

11/2?

If you take too much, you will reduce your sensitivity to LH/HCG.

[quote]KSman wrote:
Please report HCG in iu’s. MLs or CCs is not informative.

11/2?

If you take too much, you will reduce your sensitivity to LH/HCG.[/quote]

1500 iu EOD, pumped up to 250 iu EOD today is 2nd day and actually think I feel a bit better. I do realize too much will reduce my sensitivity to LH/HCG but I have to get my testes working, Any help will be greatly appreciated

Get clomid/nolva + hcg pronto

There is a research on restarting hpta and test production for hypogonadal men using this approach and the average was 1 month of this treatment.

I will look up the article for you to read. Take it to your doctor so he knows what is happening.

Your doctor IS aware that you took testosterone?

Have clomid, should I not wait to start clomid until after the HCG or can they be taken together,

[quote]montey wrote:
Have clomid, should I not wait to start clomid until after the HCG or can they be taken together,[/quote]

You can take both together. The HCG will start working on your testes. The SERM will get your HP of the HPTA producing LH. Then when the SERM stops, the testes will have LH to keep going on. There may be different strategies of how to stop using these. Note that HCG will shut down your HP and LH production. So HCG should be stopped and SERM continued past that point.

SERMs can increase E levels. If you stop suddenly, the E can shut you down. So the SERM needs to be tapered off. Clomid makes some (few) guys emotional from its E effects. Nolvadex does not do that. I do not understand if Clomid has any advantages over Nolvadex.

One can also use an AI such as arimidex/anastrozole all through a cycle and PCT to counter E effects. (Guys on TRT often are better off with anastrozole.)

Alternatively, if you are going to get gear and stay on this TRT program, you can stay on your HCG. You should also be getting anastrozole and using 1mg/wk to counter E on your TRT program. If you are going to cycle, then you need to get off everything and get your HPTA working normally again.

Thanks KSman, I am trying to get my levels back to normal and no I don’t plan on any more cycles, this experience is bad enough and even harder on my wife.Have more blood tests on Mon to see if I’m improving and get things moving a bit faster if it is possible, But anyways your advice is greatly appreciated.

Not feeling a whole different bumping up the HCG, but I’m will try the Novadex, don’t need to be emotional, wife is crying no need for both of us to be. I have arimidex also, I am new to this, and did plan on coming off the right way but as usual things got all screwed up anyways thanks again for all your help