This is what I’m thinking is happening. If you’ve done 405 for 8, you can do 415. If your form is shit and you aren’t “leg pressing” the weight off the ground, you’ll fail it.
You said you were jealous of brag’s speed off the floor which leads me to suspect your back and chest cave a lot which can lead to a horrible start. I was stuck at 500 for 5 and a 545 pull for a fucking minute. Could not for the life of me figure out what it was. So I started back submax and going for 8 rep maxes. Turned out that my back and chest were caving and I couldn’t break 555 off the floor because of it. I slowly fixed it and haven’t had an issue since.
Moral of this is to record yourself and do it a lot. Do it from different angles and take time figuring out what’s happening. 405 for 8 should give you more than 415. That just simply makes zero sense in any world.
I move the weights very slow, come to a complete stop on the floor, take a few breaths and then pull again. I pull conventional. I’ll get some video this week.
Yea mine moves about as slow as his, just at a fraction of his weight lol. I also don’t jerk the bar when I start out. I find doing that makes it hard to stay consistently braced for me.
It sounds weird, but I could see something like that happening. When I first started trying to seriously train the deadlift I could do 385 for a few reps but I couldn’t move 405. I started doing deficit deadlifts and I stopped having that problem. But if you underestimated how hard 405x5 was and then didn’t rest long that could be another reason for this.
That’s not what you want to be doing. Submaximal work focusing on moving the bar as fast as possible (with perfect form, and not sacrificing form for speed) could help. Sets of 2-3 reps with 70-75%. The thing with this speed work type of stuff is that in many cases people who are slow will benefit from it the most, my squat was slow as hell at one time until I started doing this sort of stuff.
Thank you (and everyone else) for taking the time to reply and help me!
I have incorporated deficit and paused deficit deads just recently. I hadn’t planned to attemp 405+ for a little while longer but somebody suggested going up by only 10 pounds ( previously I was jumping 30lbs) and that might help over come a possible mental block.
I will work on speed as well. All of my main lifts are stupid slow, even with light weight. It’s like I’m a sloth.
Back still fatigued from last week’s max attempt. Deadlifts felt really slow. Had to drag myself to the gym today which doesn’t happen too often these days.
Deadlift
5x135
3x225
3x315
3x365
4x3x405
Incline Press
5xbar
5x95
5x135
5x165
5x195 very fast
12x135
One guy who’s been asking me for some workout tips was asking me for a quick form check so being the kind and helpful soul that I am I head over and give him a few general tips for about a minute total. Sure enough I come back to some guy stripping the weight off my bar. Gives me the deer in headlights look. Either it’s commonplace here to just walk away with all the weight on the bar and call it a day, or one of us is being an asshole. I always make sure I strip all the weight off the bar when I’m done. I don’t see how it could possibly be different anywhere else. Maybe some people just couldn’t give less of a shit
Amazingly, it tends to be the people who look like they don’t know what they’re doing who either leave the plates on the bar or, in the case of deadlifts, just strip the bar and leave the plates in a pile on the side.
@guineapig sit on the bench unsolicited and rep his weight for 30 crew
@magick I know man. Most of the strong guys are are extremely diligent with putting things back where they should be. The skinny guys in wife beaters on the other hand