[quote]Pinto wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
rugbyhit wrote:
it’s always interesting to see a guy move such heavy weight when they are
I’ve spotted many 900+ misses and one 1102 missed squat. As long as you have five attentive spotters, it’s not too bad. I think it helps if you have some guys with some size spotting (weight and height). I remmeber one meet I lifted in last year where none of the spotters were an ounce over 160 lbs. Watching those kids try to catch weight scared me shitless.
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Here’s something I still have not figured out - in terms of spotting for squats, why don’t they just put adjustable catchers on both sides. Take a minute to measure how low a lifter will go then just adust the catchers few inches below that. If the lifter miss the lift, the weight can be caught.
This can be an addition to human spotters. There are occasions where human spotters simply miss the spot, with catchers on both sides it will provide extra safety net.
Here’s something I still have not figured out - in terms of spotting for squats, why don’t they just put adjustable catchers on both sides. Take a minute to measure how low a lifter will go then just adust the catchers few inches below that. If the lifter miss the lift, the weight can be caught.
This can be an addition to human spotters. There are occasions where human spotters simply miss the spot, with catchers on both sides it will provide extra safety net.[/quote]
Because the chance of a spotter, or the lifter for that matter, getting injured by contact with something like that is just too great. Additionally, it would hinder the judges view and the ability of the spotters to move freely.
You are much better off with nothing stationary around the lifter (on the sides or behind.)
[quote]RickJames wrote:
supermick wrote:
Pinto wrote:
I lifted in that meet in Sam’s flight. I can’t remember what he pulled last weekend. But Sam pulls in the high sixes- conventional too- oddly enough. He is a very gifted lifter- real nice guy as well.
supermick wrote:
Does anyone know what his deadlift is?
No doubt about his strength but thats a massive discrepancy between his pull and squat.
Yes, and it’s already been explained. Note that he squatted 705 raw at a meet earlier in the year. For someone squatting more than they’re pulling raw, you definitely have a squatter/bencher body type and not a squatter/deadlifter body type. This coupled with the fact that he’s been prioritizing his squat brings about even more of a discrepancy. Obviously gear makes up a lot of the difference as well. But his raw squat and deadlift seem pretty close to each other (low 700’s to high 600’s), which is not terribly odd. [/quote]
Its a shame tone of voice doesnt carry accross in forums.
I was aware of his raw squat, i was merely pointing out a possible 300+lb gained from the use of his suit (amoung other things, of course).
I am taking nothing away from the guy and i mean that sincerely but i am not interested in any sport or fed that promotes that equipment.
I respect his raw numbers a lot more.
[quote]sensless wrote:
Shane Hammon squatted over 1000 with a close stance. He’d be one to look at as well. I think irongame.com has a 925lb squat video of him.
Its a shame tone of voice doesnt carry accross in forums.
I was aware of his raw squat, i was merely pointing out a possible 300+lb gained from the use of his suit (amoung other things, of course).
I am taking nothing away from the guy and i mean that sincerely but i am not interested in any sport or fed that promotes that equipment.
I respect his raw numbers a lot more.
Just my opinion, flame away.[/quote]
I like his 1003 better and I think gear is damn cool. Hooray for gear!
How can you compare this to Dr. Squat’s raw 1000 with a walk out? Sorry, but I respect minimal gear lifts more. Anything more than a one ply is no good in my book. Now feel free to flame away…
And for the gear haters:
Judging from my personal experience, lifting in gear is way ore strenous than raw lifting…
At least when it comes to squatting.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
How can you compare this to Dr. Squat’s raw 1000 with a walk out?
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you can’t compare the lifts…
Hatfield in his prime was considerably stronger than Byrd is today…
however, Dr. Squats 1014 wasn’t raw, he wore a single ply squat suit of the time…
Hatfield also weighed almost fifty pounds more than Byrd too…
and, if I’m not mistaken, Hatfield had the squat support stands moved out of his way instead of walking the weight out for his 1014 lift (it was a big controversy at the time if my memory serves me correctly)…
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Sorry, but I respect minimal gear lifts more. Anything more than a one ply is no good in my book. Now feel free to flame away…[/quote]
what kind of single ply are you thinking of?
the single ply super-suits of today are about the equivalent of putting on about four old champion suits of yester-year…
for example, single ply RageX cannot be compared to a blast-shirt, shit, a single ply RageX is tougher than four or five old school blast shirts combined…two entirely different animals…
Hatfield in his prime was considerably stronger than Byrd is today…
however, Dr. Squats 1014 wasn’t raw, he wore a single ply squat suit of the time…
Hatfield also weighted almost fifty pounds more than Byrd too…
and, if I’m not mistaken, Hatfield had the squat support stands moved out of his way instead of walking the weight out for his 1014 lift (it was a big controversy at the time if my memory serves me correctly)…
Sorry, but I respect minimal gear lifts more. Anything more than a one ply is no good in my book. Now feel free to flame away…
what kind of single ply are you thinking of?
the single ply super-suits of today are about the equivalent on putting on about four old champion suits of yester-year…
for example, single ply RageX cannot be compared to a blast-shirt, shit, a single ply RageX is tougher than four or five old school blast shirts combined…two entirely different animals…[/quote]
[quote] dadean wrote:
The squat was completely unreal, but I already hear people bitching about the use of the monolift…
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Everyone’s so sensitive about the monolift. I wasn’t bitching about it, simply stating that it’s harder to squat wide without one. Would you disagree with this statement?
Are there strong ass close stance squatters out there: hell yes. At the same time, look at the longevity of those lifters and the rarity of those lifters. Yeah Kirk is great and strong as fuck, but give me a break- this geared or ungeared shit really does get old.
To quote the Tatemeister, “if they could they would, since they can’t, they rant.” Geared lifters will always be stronger unequipped than raw lifters ever will be. Hands down. Watch the NERB if you don’t believe it. I love how people run their mouths when they don’t know shit.
One more thing- don’t tell me that the guys in the IPF and USAPL just wear their gear “just cause”. Anyone who puts this shit on puts it on to win. Everyone is jacking as much as the can, wrapping as long as they can, getting as tight as they can. Winning is winning and I don’t care if its 3 ply or 1 ply. You put the shit on to win.
[quote]cap’nsalty wrote:
Everyone’s so sensitive about the monolift. I wasn’t bitching about it, simply stating that it’s harder to squat wide without one. Would you disagree with this statement?
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Probably depends on the person. Note the video that I posted earlier of Big Don squatting 905 and 920 raw:
That’s a fairly wide stance. Also look up Wade Hooper and Brian Siders as other big walk-out squatters with wide stances.
However, the issue in the case of APF/WPO squats getting walked out isn’t as much about the walk out itself, but doing it in very restrictive gear. I think that would be the limiting factor more so than one’s normal ability to set up wide after walking a big weight out.
[quote]dead_lifter5000 wrote:
One more thing- don’t tell me that the guys in the IPF and USAPL just wear their gear “just cause”. Anyone who puts this shit on puts it on to win. Everyone is jacking as much as the can, wrapping as long as they can, getting as tight as they can. Winning is winning and I don’t care if its 3 ply or 1 ply. You put the shit on to win.[/quote]
Shoulder width or just outside of it, but his body is quite wide.