Sacrifice Versus Reward

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^Exactly. The world needs people to work in the hotels, bust tables, drive busses, work in factories, cut grass etc…

College is not for everyone. There’s this stigma in society that if you don’t go to college somehow you are a loser.

That’s one of the reasons I HATE the expression “be a leader not a follower.” As if everyone is supposed to lead and it is somehow wrong to be a follower. Retarded. [/quote]

EVERYONE doesn’t have the genetics to build HUGE muscles.

EVERYONE doesn’t have the drive to become an engineer or a nurse.

EVERYONE doesn’t have the commitment to train 5+ days a week every week.

I personally have no desire to be like EVERYONE. No one is in the dark about people needing to be cashiers or floor sweepers. Hell, I swept the grounds at AstroWorld (six flags) as my first job…but that wasn’t my GOAL in life. It was a means to an end.

You seem to simply be accepting lesser simply because that is an option.

No, this site isn’t about that.[/quote]

You were speaking to Raj, but I have some thoughts. I don’t loot at my personal goals as being lesser or average, simply because I don’t care to ETERNALLY compare myself to the average or other people! If other people achieve much, HATS OFF and GOD BLESS! If people want to dig ditches or fold clothes, then whatever!

I try hard at what I do and I love my profession, and I do plan on taking on more opportunities as time goes on. I have a full time job, want to maybe get an adjunct, part time teaching position at a university, and perhaps start my own nutrition and fitness business and website–all the while NOT wondering if I’m average, because in order to be assess whether I’m average, I have to constantly compare myself to others - something I choose not to do because it simply doesn’t serve me any purpose!

By the way, I’ve seen a whole lot of people in this world with the “Thou shalt not accept lesser” attitude only to have shit backfire on them very badly in the end!

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

So by definition, I should stop short changing myself, and consider myself part of the T-roster of outrageous human beings. [/quote]

By the definitions you posted, yes. Now if you narrowed down the scope of people that you’re comparing yourself to then it’s a different story. My income is no longer way above average if you compare me with other network engineers in the NYC area. Compared to the some of the guys in the BOI thread (see DoveofWar or H4M), I’m a weakling. Compared to the professors where I work, I’m the least educated. I don’t claim to be a part of a roster of outrageous human beings. But I’m also not going to lump myself in with the average Joe that didn’t work as hard as I did to get where I am.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
I didn’t want it in the GAL section because of absolute fucking retards who come to blurt in abruptly shit like, “Pics or it didn’t happen!” or “We a hawdcaw bunch; get out da way o’ we gun make ya get out da way!” or “It’s survival of da fittest; I’m da most accomplished man on dis bawd: I earn da mid-6 figyas and bang a new chic everyday” or any sort of other bullshit I’ve seen here.
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LOL!!!

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[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:

[quote]mallen5 wrote:

[quote]jhng wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Ultimately I realised that there is no point in being as strict as I used to be, to achive the goals I want now. Sure, I want to be in the top 1% of physiques if there was a sudden ‘shirtless emergency’ at work. Sure, I want to carry around the kind of hard physique that would make any girl go ‘wow’.

BBB[/quote]

Actually, what I observed is that generally chicks in the more mature age group (late twenties to maybe early thrities), no matter they look hot or not, tend to look more than just hard bodies. Sure that extra beef would help, but seems like it wouldnt have the same ‘wow’ effect on younger chicks.[/quote]

You might be right, but I feel like it might have more of an effect, because “wow” bodies are becoming fewer and far between in that age group. [/quote]
Anyways it all comes down to how you feel. For example, I’m still not very big so in the winter my body is hidden yet I feel confident in my self knowing that my body looks better than most of the men around me. Girls might not even notice my muscles in the winter but just me knowing I have a good physique gives me confidence.

Now I go to eat more so I can look muscular in the winter too :).[/quote]

Yeah, most of the time, its really confidence and how u stand out that really draw the attention but of course the extra beef at the right places definitely help.

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But back to what Brick has said in the first post, I think everyone should really start thinking about what their next step in life should be once u are nearing thirties. Sure, u are still gonna hit weights, get jacked etc, etc, but u got to think about how can it be a part of ur life, along with other things like family, work, friends etc to make this whole shit sustainable. I difintely dont buy the “10 years lion or 80years lamb” saying. Thats like saying we are just gonna live till 25.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^Exactly. The world needs people to work in the hotels, bust tables, drive busses, work in factories, cut grass etc…

College is not for everyone. There’s this stigma in society that if you don’t go to college somehow you are a loser.

That’s one of the reasons I HATE the expression “be a leader not a follower.” As if everyone is supposed to lead and it is somehow wrong to be a follower. Retarded. [/quote]

EVERYONE doesn’t have the genetics to build HUGE muscles.

EVERYONE doesn’t have the drive to become an engineer or a nurse.

EVERYONE doesn’t have the commitment to train 5+ days a week every week.

I personally have no desire to be like EVERYONE. No one is in the dark about people needing to be cashiers or floor sweepers. Hell, I swept the grounds at AstroWorld (six flags) as my first job…but that wasn’t my GOAL in life. It was a means to an end.

You seem to simply be accepting lesser simply because that is an option.

No, this site isn’t about that.[/quote]

Rrrrriiight. At no point did I talk about my personal goals and aspirations. You have no idea what I’m “accepting.”

And people may recognize the need for a garbage man in society for instance, but somehow the individuals who decide upon that career are losers. Not true.

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*I may have posted the same thing twice as my posts aren’t seeming to show up.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]K-Man32 wrote:
I say don’t turn down a good time but don’t go looking for one is a good rule to go by.

After awhile it will add up and you will stop being invited to small gatherings…[/quote]

The former is exactly what I did, and the latter is exactly what happened!

And that’s what destroyed my social life and a relationship with a nice woman. [/quote]
It’s not good to be the guy that your buds can always call if they wanna sit around and chill drinking a few beers. Keep in touch and do your own thing, your friends will respect that.

As far as women…i never said to ever reject dates or something a woman invited you to (as long as you know she’s interested) i added things to do with the free time like learning to make some high caliber meals. It will help your bodybuilding goals and score points with whatever girl you have a hard on for at the moment.

Tailor it to suit your needs, you can kill two birds with one stone (building a nice strong body and not destroying your social life).

I understand though, you openly said that you have an obsessive personality. Just know that some people don’t and can “passively” just build a better body and spread it to all facets of life. By passively i mean making it so much apart of you that it doesn’t seem abnormal at all to other people and they can easily see through it once they talk to you a few times.

If your really comfortable in your own skin people can tell.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Well, actually, before I go ahead, I DON’T consider my grandfather average despite the fact that he has almost no education (I think 6th grade was highest he went), but rather because of his exceptional personality, attributes, and boldness, and extreme hard-drivenness (most people don’t have these unusual attributes, except for T-Nation of course, where everyone and their mother is bold and assertive).

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Now you are starting to get it.

I don’t take any of these conversations personal man, this is the internet.

3rd? Why do you bash this website, its membership & authors so much both here and other boards? If you dislike it so much, why do you hang around? To complain more?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

Apparently average has somehow been confused with not working hard. I agree that people should strive to be the best they can be individually but to simply state striving for this suddenly makes you above average is retarded.[/quote]

Because you can’t comprehend what is written it is retarded? Great approach dude.

[quote]There really is nothing wrong with being average,
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Enjoy, it’s all yours.

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You know what this thread needs?

Double Stacks!!

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

I have worked as a naked butler and I can vouch for the fact that all women of all ages appreciate a good body on a man[/quote]

Ok dude - gonna need you to elaborate on the “naked butler” thing.

Thanks! ; )

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And what I find funny is how Mod Brian said we won’t have a fitness section, but of course we do have an SAMA section, which admittedly is sort of entertaining and I’ve participated in, even showing off a CLOTHED picture of a former lady friend. But I haven’t participated to the extent that others have.

You know, some women posting their pictures over and over and OVER again, for the acceptance and validation of horny jerkoffs masturbating at their computers - showing off in the hops that perhaps all of us perhaps will fall to the ground and begin groveling and genuflecting when we see a picture of an attractive woman. The type of board in which men spend hours and hours copying and pasting thousands of pictures of strippers, pornstars, models, and celebs, and other sorts of women they will never, EVER FUCKING GET!

Then there are the dudes who post pics of their partners (nothing wrong with a few) over and over again, only to be mad if we happen to set forth and HIT ON THEIR WIVES AND GFs in real life if they kept showing them off. (And why not?) All that, and I can’t have a fitness board, a board that would actually deal more with building muscle, considering that the MOST of the people posting in SAMA don’t even post in the BB or nutrition section, the two sections most important for talking shop and getting huge.

I’d also like to add that I do give credit where it’s due. But that’s where it ends! I respect that some of you have achieved some “above average” things (whatever the hell that subjective term means now), but I can’t handle shit talk. For example, someone accomplished a good thing and tells me about. I congratulate him/her and might actually be interested in it. But it ends!

I’m not gonna have someone in front of me boast and brag endlessly, which is what many on here do. Being 31, I’d just stop talking to the person and walk away, or I’d be inclined to punch them in the face, BUT NOT DO IT!

You extraordinary people better be lighting up fucking rooms in public and having others in awe of your awesomeness and not just talk about it on here.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^Exactly. The world needs people to work in the hotels, bust tables, drive busses, work in factories, cut grass etc…

College is not for everyone. There’s this stigma in society that if you don’t go to college somehow you are a loser.

That’s one of the reasons I HATE the expression “be a leader not a follower.” As if everyone is supposed to lead and it is somehow wrong to be a follower. Retarded. [/quote]

EVERYONE doesn’t have the genetics to build HUGE muscles.

EVERYONE doesn’t have the drive to become an engineer or a nurse.

EVERYONE doesn’t have the commitment to train 5+ days a week every week.

I personally have no desire to be like EVERYONE. No one is in the dark about people needing to be cashiers or floor sweepers. Hell, I swept the grounds at AstroWorld (six flags) as my first job…but that wasn’t my GOAL in life. It was a means to an end.

You seem to simply be accepting lesser simply because that is an option.

No, this site isn’t about that.[/quote]

Quoted for truth.

Despite all the marketing to the faux-hardcore crowd over the last few years, T-Mag still is about producing extraordinary results. That comes primarily through the task of building the body to big-as-hell proportions for most people.

I can’t do that; but I can make the 190-200# I can carry as big and ripped as possible while still improving my karate. And still working a day job 40+ selling mattresses. And building a fitness business for another 40+ hours. And earning a third degree during that (the other two I earned online while working 40 hours). And having a very busy social life.

It’s not the pushing to achieve greatness that’s impossible without obscene life changes; it’s knowing how to organize and enact a specific plan to achieve each goal.

Balance is detrimental to achievement.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Apparently average has somehow been confused with not working hard. I agree that people should strive to be the best they can be individually but to simply state striving for this suddenly makes you above average is retarded.[/quote]

Because you can’t comprehend what is written it is retarded? Great approach dude.

[quote]There really is nothing wrong with being average,
[/quote]

Enjoy, it’s all yours.[/quote]

Your post defines being above average as doing everything within you power to reach your personal potential and that being average is putting no effort into yourself. If that’s not what you were trying to get at, rewrite what you meant clearly.

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

I have worked as a naked butler and I can vouch for the fact that all women of all ages appreciate a good body on a man[/quote]

Ok dude - gonna need you to elaborate on the “naked butler” thing.

Thanks! ; ) [/quote]

I could post a link to the pics, but they might put your eyes out :^)

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]jhng wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Ultimately I realised that there is no point in being as strict as I used to be, to achive the goals I want now. Sure, I want to be in the top 1% of physiques if there was a sudden ‘shirtless emergency’ at work. Sure, I want to carry around the kind of hard physique that would make any girl go ‘wow’.

BBB[/quote]

Actually, what I observed is that generally chicks in the more mature age group (late twenties to maybe early thrities), no matter they look hot or not, tend to look more than just hard bodies. Sure that extra beef would help, but seems like it wouldnt have the same ‘wow’ effect on younger chicks.[/quote]

Absolutely agree with you. However, that is for a ‘relatiohship’ not a transient superficial attraction to a hard body.

I have worked as a naked butler and I can vouch for the fact that all women of all ages appreciate a good body on a man, especially an older man, because with age, more and more men (and women) allow their physiques to turn to jelly.

And when your body is in better shape than most 20somthings in the local gym, even the nubile blonde gym instructor tends to get a little awestruck around you ;).

BBB[/quote]
Yeah, thats what I mean. As for hooking up or flirting, a hard body is always going to make it easier for chicks of ANY age group :slight_smile:

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Look, we all have our own experiences, but these dumbass generalizations where some of you really believe women don’t like muscles is just bullshit. [/quote]

Dude, none of that surprises me at all. Of course women are attracted to muscular men…please. I can totally see how they’d be very interested in you.

If anything, they’d be turned off by what a fucking jerk you are, not by your muscles…lol…

Before you have a shit-fit, I’m just busting your balls. ; )