Sacrifice Versus Reward

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Am I the only one that finds none of this surprising? LOL

I mean, what did anyone expect after bodybuilding became a very popular hobby in the western world?

Naturally UNathletic people saw it and thought it looked like fun, it was an “interesting” fantasy for them, until they realized it was really hard work and that in order to succeed they would literally have to be a different person inside. So 99% of the people who get into this nowadays simply settle for less, and we’re still left with that 1% that would have gotten themselves huge and strong whether it was now, or 1970.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
And what I find funny is how Mod Brian said we won’t have a fitness section, but of course we do have an SAMA section, which admittedly is sort of entertaining and I’ve participated in, even showing off a CLOTHED picture of a former lady friend. But I haven’t participated to the extent that others have.

You know, some women posting their pictures over and over and OVER again, for the acceptance and validation of horny jerkoffs masturbating at their computers - showing off in the hops that perhaps all of us perhaps will fall to the ground and begin groveling and genuflecting when we see a picture of an attractive woman. The type of board in which men spend hours and hours copying and pasting thousands of pictures of strippers, pornstars, models, and celebs, and other sorts of women they will never, EVER FUCKING GET!

Then there are the dudes who post pics of their partners (nothing wrong with a few) over and over again, only to be mad if we happen to set forth and HIT ON THEIR WIVES AND GFs in real life if they kept showing them off. (And why not?) All that, and I can’t have a fitness board, a board that would actually deal more with building muscle, considering that the MOST of the people posting in SAMA don’t even post in the BB or nutrition section, the two sections most important for talking shop and getting huge.

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What is the purpose of judging the people that post in the off topic sections? Does it make you feel better about yourself? I don’t understand the basis of your attack.

LOL

I can name a few people that do what you are putting down here that have made a fuck load more progress than a majority of the people that DO post in the On-topic sections. Some people prefer the light hearted banter to to the serious sections, but you judge them for it?

I don’t get it.

We’re supposed to respect your goals, actions, and thoughts, but you don’t offer the same respect.

And about the women & men that are exhibitionists… That isn’t a disease, nor is it a problem if they choose to do it. I know a few of you have a problem with them doing it. You don’t get it, but whatever. Point is, who are you to judge them, when you don’t want to be judged yourself?

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I really have no idea why someone who chooses to for example:

Work an average job that pays enough support himself and his loved ones

Marry or cohabit with an average looking woman

Exercise and eat in a manner simply to stay healthy

I don’t understand why someone who chooses these paths should be labelled a loser.

That to me is being average, not excelling over the rest of the pack in any facet of your life.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Apparently average has somehow been confused with not working hard. I agree that people should strive to be the best they can be individually but to simply state striving for this suddenly makes you above average is retarded.[/quote]

Because you can’t comprehend what is written it is retarded? Great approach dude.

[quote]There really is nothing wrong with being average,
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Enjoy, it’s all yours.[/quote]

Your post defines being above average as doing everything within you power to reach your personal potential and that being average is putting no effort into yourself. If that’s not what you were trying to get at, rewrite what you meant clearly.

[/quote]

HOLY SHIT, you addressed me directly. WOW. Next time you want to call me or what I said retarded, have the balls to do it directly please.

Dude, listen:

You are not defined by the job you hold, the car you drive, the home you live in or the friends you have.

I had a buddy of mine die of testicular cancer this summer. His suffering taught us all a lot about life, love and being happy. I’ve never before seen someone in so much pain, and he showed me what joy really is. He was 24 years old. His son will be too young to remember his father, but that is okay, he was just average right?

To you, he would be an average person, because he wasn’t rich and didn’t work in a fancy pants job, nor did he have an advanced degree. To me, he was anything but average.

I tell ya what, you can call me a retard for my perspective all you want. You can define average however you please. I’m not going to try and convince you to believe something you don’t want to.

I’m just pretty fucking happy I see the world the way I do, and so are quite a few people around me.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

By the way, I’ve seen a whole lot of people in this world with the “Thou shalt not accept lesser” attitude only to have shit backfire on them very badly in the end! [/quote]

Wait, so because life is unpredictable, I should settle for less in fear of something bad happening and taking what I work for away?

If this is not what you meant, then why make that comment? Who is unaware that shit happens?

My goal in life is to enjoy the short time I am here. We all come into this world alone and die alone. Even if my greatest days ever reach the point of being behind me, I will still take pride in what I’ve done up to this point.

People who strive for more are often the ones most aware that time and life are too short to fuck around.

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SAMA raises testosterone, just thought i would throw that out there.
:wink:

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

You know, some women posting their pictures over and over and OVER again, for the acceptance and validation of horny jerkoffs masturbating at their computers - showing off in the hops that perhaps all of us perhaps will fall to the ground and begin groveling and genuflecting
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No they post pictures to have fun. To be playful and have fun that’s it. Some people take it too seriously and read way to much into their motives. Probably an effort to make themselves feel superior. IT’S JUST INTERNET PLAY go a long with it, you’ll be happier.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

No they post pictures to have fun. [/quote]

To be fair, you can’t POSSIBLY know the motivation behind any given individual’s desire to post racy pictures of themselves.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Apparently average has somehow been confused with not working hard. I agree that people should strive to be the best they can be individually but to simply state striving for this suddenly makes you above average is retarded.[/quote]

Because you can’t comprehend what is written it is retarded? Great approach dude.

[quote]There really is nothing wrong with being average,
[/quote]

Enjoy, it’s all yours.[/quote]

Your post defines being above average as doing everything within you power to reach your personal potential and that being average is putting no effort into yourself. If that’s not what you were trying to get at, rewrite what you meant clearly.

[/quote]

HOLY SHIT, you addressed me directly. WOW. Next time you want to call me or what I said retarded, have the balls to do it directly please.

Dude, listen:

You are not defined by the job you hold, the car you drive, the home you live in or the friends you have.

I had a buddy of mine die of testicular cancer this summer. His suffering taught us all a lot about life, love and being happy. I’ve never before seen someone in so much pain, and he showed me what joy really is. He was 24 years old. His son will be too young to remember his father, but that is okay, he was just average right?

To you, he would be an average person, because he wasn’t rich and didn’t work in a fancy pants job, nor did he have an advanced degree. To me, he was anything but average.

I tell ya what, you can call me a retard for my perspective all you want. You can define average however you please. I’m not going to try and convince you to believe something you don’t want to.

I’m just pretty fucking happy I see the world the way I do, and so are quite a few people around me. [/quote]

I called your opinion of what constitutes “average” as retarded. Not you personally. Also calling out someone over the internet doesn’t take balls, I replied to Brick’s post since I agreed with him.

How average someone is in their life is in no way shape or form a measure of the value of their life. Average is a statistical thing. Your friend was not a loser for working an average job or living an average life. His life was worth just as much as someone who is considered above average. There is nothing “okay” about a father with a small child dying.

Average =/= Loser

Your friend was average (from what I get from what you wrote) but NOT a loser. Those two words do not mean the same thing which is one of my points.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

Apparently average has somehow been confused with not working hard. I agree that people should strive to be the best they can be individually but to simply state striving for this suddenly makes you above average is retarded.[/quote]

Because you can’t comprehend what is written it is retarded? Great approach dude.

[quote]There really is nothing wrong with being average,
[/quote]

Enjoy, it’s all yours.[/quote]

Your post defines being above average as doing everything within you power to reach your personal potential and that being average is putting no effort into yourself. If that’s not what you were trying to get at, rewrite what you meant clearly.

[/quote]

HOLY SHIT, you addressed me directly. WOW. Next time you want to call me or what I said retarded, have the balls to do it directly please.

Dude, listen:

You are not defined by the job you hold, the car you drive, the home you live in or the friends you have.

I had a buddy of mine die of testicular cancer this summer. His suffering taught us all a lot about life, love and being happy. I’ve never before seen someone in so much pain, and he showed me what joy really is. He was 24 years old. His son will be too young to remember his father, but that is okay, he was just average right?

To you, he would be an average person, because he wasn’t rich and didn’t work in a fancy pants job, nor did he have an advanced degree. To me, he was anything but average.

I tell ya what, you can call me a retard for my perspective all you want. You can define average however you please. I’m not going to try and convince you to believe something you don’t want to.

I’m just pretty fucking happy I see the world the way I do, and so are quite a few people around me. [/quote]

I called your opinion of what constitutes “average” as retarded. Not you personally. Also calling out someone over the internet doesn’t take balls, I replied to Brick’s post since I agreed with him.

How average someone is in their life is in no way shape or form a measure of the value of their life. Average is a statistical thing. Your friend was not a loser for working an average job or living an average life. His life was worth just as much as someone who is considered above average. There is nothing “okay” about a father with a small child dying.

Average =/= Loser

Your friend was average (from what I get from what you wrote) but NOT a loser. Those two words do not mean the same thing which is one of my points.

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Goodness.

A loser is someone who either fails to take advantage of or completely fucks up opportunities when they present themselves.

If you have a chance to be MANAGER but lack the drive so you continue working the fry machine and barely making enough to support all four illegit kids, I would say you are a loser.

That is not because you work a fry machine alone…because the other guy on the same machine who is 15 years old but hoping to be a brain surgeon one day is likely not a loser within that narrow context.

If you are settling for less even though you have the potential and opportunity for much more, then yes, I would call that being a loser. You are wasting potential.

The guy who literally can’t do better for himself is not the same.

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Everyone has the right to pursue happiness. This site is tailored for those with high ambitions and make sacrifices to achieve their goals. Mediocrity is relegated to those who stand on the sidelines fascinated by what others achieve, want what they have, but want it without much effort.

I have no problem with anyone pursuing happiness in whatever form that takes. Just don’t hate on the high achievers who build companies that employ you, take home the awards/rewards and live large in general. I get sick of people penalizing the well earned success of others.

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Yeah, we see the world differently.

Oh well.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

You know, some women posting their pictures over and over and OVER again, for the acceptance and validation of horny jerkoffs masturbating at their computers - showing off in the hops that perhaps all of us perhaps will fall to the ground and begin groveling and genuflecting
[/quote]

No they post pictures to have fun. To be playful and have fun that’s it. Some people take it too seriously and read way to much into their motives. Probably an effort to make themselves feel superior. IT’S JUST INTERNET PLAY go a long with it, you’ll be happier.[/quote]

Cereally. It’s not like the male posters are actually sitting around their computers masturbating, it’s just internet flirting and nothing more.

(This coming from someone who doesn’t frequent SAMA too often.)

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[quote]Oldman Powers wrote:
Everyone has the right to pursue happiness. This site is tailored for those with high ambitions and make sacrifices to achieve their goals. Mediocrity is relegated to those who stand on the sidelines fascinated by what others achieve, want what they have, but want it without much effort.

I have no problem with anyone pursuing happiness in whatever form that takes. Just don’t hate on the high achievers who build companies that employ you, take home the awards/rewards and live large in general. I get sick of people penalizing the well earned success of others.
[/quote]

I am not a hater by any means, and am fairly ambitious myself. I DO have a managerial position. I saw the position, knew that I had the credentials and went to the interview with MORE preparation than I needed.

I once wanted to be big, and I consider that I did get big (240-250 at 5’10" - yeah, a little chubby, but with impressive numbers by most people’s standards). I wanted to lose weight; so I lost 35 pounds. I wanted to be an RD, and I did it. I wanted an MS, and I’m done with it in a few weeks.

There actually was a point in my life where I was a procrastinator and negligent, and then after realizing the error of my ways, decided to form better habits.

On exhibitionism. I don’t mind women showing off. I love women and I’m a pretty horny dude and am somehwat exhibitionist myself considering I’ve had quite a few threesomes and foursomes. I don’t say that to brag, because I don’t see the need to brag, and bragging about it does nothing for me. So it’s not like I’m someoen who doesn’t appreciate the hedonism of sex. I just thought it rather bizarre that of all things off topic, we can’t have a fitness forum, when that is actually more ON topic than OFF topic and general fitness minded people make up either the bulk or a significant minority and in soem cases MAJORITY of magazine readers and supplement consumers.

BEANS: I don’t have “bash” people on here. People misinterpret who I am, which can be rather irritating. I’ve learned a SHITLOAD from the authors on this site and discovered authors from here. If it wasn’t for TN, I wouldn’t have known of Dave Tate, Ian King, Alwyn Cosgrove, John Berardi, and several others. I’ve actually bought some of these people’s services thanks to TN getting the word out. I’ve met Joe Defranco, Jim Wendler, and Ian King at seminars. I attended a Metal Militia work shop with Sebastian Burns, whose name I heard of because of an interview on here (surprisingly by Chris Shugar) with Mike Mueller.

I’m not a super tough guy, but for some strange reason, I can’t help myself and can’t hold back in challenging people who shit talk and brag and boast ENDLESSLY. And from what I’ve experienced in real life, those who brag and boast the most are the least interested in what others have accomplished or appreciating their good attributes. After all, it’s all about them! I DON’T come from a rough-and-tumble neighborhood, but there have been rough-and-tumble people from Northern Queens who wouldn’t hesitate to verbally or physically challenge shit talkers.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

You know, some women posting their pictures over and over and OVER again, for the acceptance and validation of horny jerkoffs masturbating at their computers - showing off in the hops that perhaps all of us perhaps will fall to the ground and begin groveling and genuflecting
[/quote]

No they post pictures to have fun. To be playful and have fun that’s it. Some people take it too seriously and read way to much into their motives. Probably an effort to make themselves feel superior. IT’S JUST INTERNET PLAY go a long with it, you’ll be happier.[/quote]

Cereally. It’s not like the male posters are actually sitting around their computers masturbating, it’s just internet flirting and nothing more.

(This coming from someone who doesn’t frequent SAMA too often.)[/quote]

MANY do it for internet fun. I’ve done it before too, MORE explicitly (eg, showing my ----) on the net and phone with females privately through IM, phone, and email. What well-endowed man doesn’t like showing his appendage off? I do. However, I don’t need to do it endlessly and I don’t need people complimenting me constantly. If they want to, that’s fine. Everyone NEEDS SOME validation to feel good. But there are definitely some posters who SOLICIT endless groveling. Am I judging them? I actually don’t know. Maybe I just blurt shit out sometimes. Perhaps I’ll refrain from doing so from now on. But what I blurt out is far more accpetable than “Pics or it didn’t happen!”

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

You know, some women posting their pictures over and over and OVER again, for the acceptance and validation of horny jerkoffs masturbating at their computers - showing off in the hops that perhaps all of us perhaps will fall to the ground and begin groveling and genuflecting
[/quote]

No they post pictures to have fun. To be playful and have fun that’s it. Some people take it too seriously and read way to much into their motives. Probably an effort to make themselves feel superior. IT’S JUST INTERNET PLAY go a long with it, you’ll be happier.[/quote]

Cereally. It’s not like the male posters are actually sitting around their computers masturbating, it’s just internet flirting and nothing more.

(This coming from someone who doesn’t frequent SAMA too often.)[/quote]

DUDE: There ARE peoplel masturbatign over those flicks. I know from firsthand communication.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
DUDE: There ARE peoplel masturbatign over those flicks. I know from firsthand communication. [/quote]

Yo - seriously. Who the fuck actually whacks off to those pics? I mean, Deb and some of the others are obviously gorgeous women, but I generally don’t like my filth that clean. ; )

Maybe when I was 14, but at 43, if donkeys and midgets aren’t involved, don’t even bother me.

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
DUDE: There ARE peoplel masturbatign over those flicks. I know from firsthand communication. [/quote]

Yo - seriously. Who the fuck actually whacks off to those pics? I mean, Deb and some of the others are obviously gorgeous women, but I generally don’t like my filth that clean. ; )

Maybe when I was 14, but at 43, if donkeys and midgets aren’t involved, don’t even bother me.[/quote]

LMAO, well said.

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[quote]SkyNett wrote:

Yo - seriously. Who the fuck actually whacks off to those pics? I mean, nomorewar and some of the others are obviously gorgeous men, but I generally like gay bukakke films. ; )

Maybe when I was 14, but at 43, if guys with 10 inch cocks aren’t involved, don’t even bother me.[/quote]

We should hang out. Although, I only have about 3…okay 2 inches to offer.