since this is a bb forum…if you never plan on competing, should you WONT COMMIT TO THE CONREST PREP get out? I mean, you’re half assing too, right?
Seems like that would make you just an average and casual lifter.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
One is work and is hard, I think you know which one.[/quote]
True…and that is why this involves discipline. What “balance” means to me may not be what “balance” means to Bricknyce. I won’t be going out every single weekend because that’s just not me. I don’t need that and I am the type to enjoy spending some time with friends at their house than at a loud ass club.
You don’t get to claim some experienced epiphany simply because you stop wanting to put the time in for a physical goal. It deserves no social credit and no applause. It is also no different than giving up long nights out so that you go to work fresh.
You do what you have to do to reach your own goals. The only thing that pisses me off are people without goals at all.[/quote]
Fair points. But I don’t know where I requested applause.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
since this is a bb forum…if you never plan on competing, should you WONT COMMIT TO THE CONREST PREP get out? I mean, you’re half assing too, right?
Seems like that would make you just an average and casual lifter.[/quote]
Well, on the same note, because I like running, I should be required to hand in my application for the tryouts for the Adidas Grand Prix next year here in NYC. Maybe I can compete against Ty Gay and Usain Bolt.
I should also be required to pitch 95 mph fastballs should I want to attend Citi Field or Yankee Stadium.
Sub 3:50 mile should I want to attend the Olympics in England in two yrs as well.
[quote]four60 wrote:
Damn I just wanted to know what type of Topics was the OP looking to start in his new Forum or Group?[/quote]
Didn’t have specific topics in mind. Just thought perhaps there could be a place where more casual (although still SERIOUS) lifters who just want to look and feel good could talk about stuff without intruding on the BB section (I actually thought that’s respectful).
Brick, you have one big fucking head. lol
=)
PX wrote: “How the hell does weightlifting get pegged as the frivolous act in favor of more parties?”
I don’t understand the question.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Although, Brick - I’ll also add that it’s time you stopped telling us why you’re priorities have changed. We’ve all heard the spiel about 600 times, lol. ;)[/quote]
I mentioned them to open up to a topic that I think applies to life as a whole, for the hundredth time: sacrifice versus reward.
And I don’t know how the fuck this is not worthy of discussion considering that those who go the distance ARE sacrificing! In some cases EXTREME FUCKING SACRIFICE!
[quote]TD54 wrote:
Brick I think you’re a very intelligent man and you bring up some very good points in this thread. Not sure why it had to turn into such a shit storm though… That is all[/quote]
Thank you very much.
As I addressed in my original post, people are very, VERY sensitive, even when I’m not talking about them, not trying to bother them, not trying to hold them back, and so on.
For example, I personally exhorted X to enter some shows because I think it would be a shame to not use his potential to the max - AND maybe even earn some more DOUGH from his physique. Who knows? Might win a show. Might get some acting or modeling gigs. Whatever! Does that sound like someone trying to hold X back?!
I provided the same encouragement to Way Lander in asking: “Dude, you got so much potential. Enter a show!”
Because my bro doesn’t like reading, I mapped out a diet for him based on the guidelines in Lyle McDonald’s Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. He’s lost 13# in 10 days and I’m on top of him, making sure he sticks to it and his exercise routine.
I don’t know where anyone got the idea that I’m resentful or in the way, ESPECIALLY with nutrition and lifting - ANY kind of lifting (BB, PL, general fitness, X Fit, whatever!).
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
Over and over in your posts you make it sound nearly impossible to achieve a high level physique and be very successful. Not just in this thread but in others too. I don’t know about X’s or Modok’s personal lives. Nor do I care because it’s none of my business. What does interest me is how they got so damn big while holding down professional careers where they need to stay sharp every day.
[/quote]
FTR, Brick, I don’t think this is what you were getting at.
For the people who don’t understand what Brick is saying:
You’re not going to find many people who have a high paying job, a phenomenal physique and a social life that includes clubbing every weekend and semi annual vacations to Europe. Some things MUST be sacrificed in order to build the phenomenal physiques we’re all after. Brick has never, not once, said it’s impossible to build a great physique and make a lot of money.
However, and this should be common sense, the more of our focus and attention that gets dedicated to building a great physique, the less attention we have to focus on OTHER areas of our lives, which may or may not be as important to us.
It comes down to individual priorities. Brick has made everyone aware where his priorities these days lie. I agree, it’s not the mindset we want this site to attract overall, but Brick has more bodybuiling knowledge than 98% of the regular posters on this site and never puts down the goals of others. This is not a guy we want to run off the site simply because his priorities have changed.[/quote]
Thanks.
It would have been interesting to read what some people had sacrificed to reach their goals whether that be their goal in bodybuilding, but even what they had to do to achieve any goal such as college, or travel for a year, or career change.
I always find it interesting to see what people can do and will do when they finally commit to something.
I had to make some personal sacrifices where at the time I didn’t feel I had a choice, but I guess everything really is a choice.
Good topic Brick, or at least my interpretation of your original post.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Brick, you have one big fucking head. lol
=)[/quote]
I know this. When I was a baby, they thought I had hydroencephalus because of my large head. I had to order fitted hats when they were in style. I had to buy my own damn helmet in Little League.
It’s hereditary. My grandfather has a big head too and his nickname while living in Cuba was Cabeza Grande.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
It would have been interesting to read what some people had sacrificed to reach their goals whether that be their goal in bodybuilding, but even what they had to do to achieve any goal such as college, or travel for a year, or career change.
I always find it interesting to see what people can do and will do when they finally commit to something.
I had to make some personal sacrifices where at the time I didn’t feel I had a choice, but I guess everything really is a choice.
Good topic Brick, or at least my interpretation of your original post.
[/quote]
Apparently you’re one of the few who understood my intention with my post.
Somewhere along the line, it got misconstrued with me not being impressed with how extraordinary everyone on this board; how I want to drag others down; that I believe one can’t be jacked and earn high income; and whatever other bullshit that’s been demonstrated here.
I’m just a bit disappointed. I asked for a proposal from our bionic T-brethren on how we’re going to eradicate all the worthless, underachieving, lazy, average people and implement a eugenics program and socioeconomic reforms to form a new race–a MASTER RACE–of ambitious superhumans. I’m still waiting.
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
The Double Stack is a worthy adversary, but nothing touches a baconator[/quote]
I had to do it. I bought a triple baconator today. 1320 calories. The girl at the drive-thru looked at me as if I was asking for a bag of Afghan heroin.
I’m about an hour post-consumption here. I’m no doctor, but I think my pancreas and spleen are both broken. My mental acuity is at about 50%, clouded in the haze 84 grams of saturated fat induces. A disturbing pang of fecal urgency is starting to undulate in my colon. The large burger has seemingly defied the laws of physics in how quickly it has navigated through the endless meters of my digestive tract. I don’t even think the Hadron collider could shoot a burger out this fast.
My cat, normally a selfish little fucker, is staring at me with what looks like genuine concern.
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
The Double Stack is a worthy adversary, but nothing touches a baconator[/quote]
I had to do it. I bought a triple baconator today. 1320 calories. The girl at the drive-thru looked at me as if I was asking for a bag of Afghan heroin.
I’m about an hour post-consumption here. I’m no doctor, but I think my pancreas and spleen are both broken. My mental acuity is at about 50%, clouded in the haze 84 grams of saturated fat induces.
A disturbing pang of fecal urgency is starting to undulate in my colon. The large burger has seemingly defied the laws of physics in how quickly it has navigated through the endless meters of my digestive tract. I don’t even think the Hadron collider could shoot a burger out this fast.
My cat, normally a selfish little fucker, is staring at me with what looks like genuine concern. [/quote]
Dude - I don’t log in or comment very often, but I had to let you know, you made my Saturday with your post.
Thx
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
The Double Stack is a worthy adversary, but nothing touches a baconator[/quote]
I had to do it. I bought a triple baconator today. 1320 calories. The girl at the drive-thru looked at me as if I was asking for a bag of Afghan heroin.
I’m about an hour post-consumption here. I’m no doctor, but I think my pancreas and spleen are both broken. My mental acuity is at about 50%, clouded in the haze 84 grams of saturated fat induces. A disturbing pang of fecal urgency is starting to undulate in my colon. The large burger has seemingly defied the laws of physics in how quickly it has navigated through the endless meters of my digestive tract. I don’t even think the Hadron collider could shoot a burger out this fast.
My cat, normally a selfish little fucker, is staring at me with what looks like genuine concern. [/quote]
I was just at Wendy’s and they didn’t have the triple baconator! I know they used to. I just had a triple bacon deluxe however and it was delicious. I also had a blt cobb salad and that wasn’t bad. I need a nap now though. :=)
[quote]debraD wrote:
I was just at Wendy’s and they didn’t have the triple baconator! I know they used to. I just had a triple bacon deluxe however and it was delicious. I also had a blt cobb salad and that wasn’t bad. I need a nap now though. :=)[/quote]
Jesus Christ, she eats triple bacon burgers, too! Now I know she’s not real (you were almost convincing with that whole ‘I despise AC/DC thing’, but now I’m skeptical again)… 
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
How the hell does weightlifting get pegged as the frivolous act in favor of more parties?[/quote]
I personally think it has to do with societal conditioning.
Work: I essential to pay the bills. According to society, if you have a fantastic, top echelon job, then you are ‘successful’, motivated, a good breadwinner/provider/Alpha Male/resource. Society rarely views this sort of thing as a negative.
Relationships: Society says that we should pair-bond and that if we don’t then there is something wrong with us. OR, males can go out and ‘score pussy’. The more pussy you score, or the better looking your partner, then generally the perception is that the more ‘alpha’ you are. Sure there are some negatives associated with this sort of thing (‘slut’, ‘player’, ‘trophy wife’, etc) but again, generally, the more successful you are at pair-bonding, the better society views you.
Weightlifting/bodybuilding: Well we pretty much know that society views this as mostly negative (‘narcissistic’, ‘little big man complex’, ‘self-obsessed’, ‘loner’, etc). Sure, a girl may swoon over you rippling torso, but if it’s ‘too’ rippling then she’s equally likely to wonder if you’ll spend more time in the gym than with her.
Out of the 3 facets (work, relationships, weightlifting), weightlifting is the ‘social misfit’ if you will. Or at least, that’s how it is generally viewed by those not into it.
Now we here know this is bullshit right? Except that societal conditioning plays a HUGE part in who we are/develop into.
Personally I had a very ‘proper’ upbringing at a very expensive boarding school. I tried to resist most of their dogmatic, conditioning bullshit, but alas, some of it stuck. For example I can’t shake the belief that if you’re not with someone in a relationship, then there is something odd about you. Consequently, there was always a naging doubt that my devotion to the gym was costing me precious opportunitites to start the pair-bonding process. I didn’t let that stop me, but that’s because I found a woman who understood - finally.
So my point is that although for many of us, our conscious minds KNOW that weightlifting isn’t the social misfit that the sheepl make it out to be, however that doesn’t stop our subconscious mind (which is conditioned from a young age to be our ‘right and wrong’ guidance system and which is largely programmed by what we see and feel around us) from nagging at us that we are engaging in slightly ‘odd’ behaviour.
That constant naggin can wear you down. Now I’m not saying this is why people take a step back from the BBing lifestyle, but I am saying that it can be a powerful contributory factor.
That is my opinion.
BBB[/quote]
It is not the sole reason for leaving the bodybuilding lifestyle.
And my aim of this post was NOT to deter anyone from getting huge! Where that came from is beyond me!
Where this became a fucking debate over who is average and who on here is so darn special and extraordinary is beyond me too!
I didn’t give it up because I didn’t want to be big anymore because of society’s views on overmuscular people. I gave it up because my resources–namely, TIME, EFFORT, and EMOTIONAL ENERGY–were being used to the extent that I had little else of them to dedicate to other areas. I said I… ME… PERSONALLY couldn’t balance it all! Did I fucking say others can’t or aren’t?!
I also asked, in adult manner, “How much are you people willing to sacrifice to achieve your physique goals, or any other goals for that matter?!” AS IF this is some asinine, IRRELEVANT topic to discuss amongst grown adults who THEY THEMSELVES portray as badass, hard driven motherfuckers to be reckoned with. Bodybuilding is an endeavor in which people have to go to the distance to compete or partake in.
And although I could be wrong (something SOME people on here can’t admit sometimes because they are always right in their own fairytale hardcore world), I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts that for every SINGLE hardcore bodybuilder who has a killer romantic and social life, there are (a) dozen(s) more who are hermits shackled to their kitchens, homes, and gyms! Can someone tell me how to eat 9 or 10 meals per day without being the former? Is there something wrong with the former (must ask to show I don’t think so)? NO! I simply ask if people will go a certain distance.
I’m also growing increasingly curious as to why GROWN ADULTS don’t understand the meanings of the following words or terms.
some
most
not all
many
several
majority
minority
sizable minority
tiny minority
nearly all
personally
personal
individual
individually
Somewhere along the line, some people on here came to misconstrue these words and terms that TWELVE YEAR OLDS can comprehend! That is, they came to misconstrue EVERYONE of them to mean “ALL”!
I think I was savvy enough to understand them when I was SIX! (Aren’t I special?)
Onto what others think. I admit, and I’ve said it before, I care to a degree of what others think. And this is impossible to avoid unless you don’t mind life being exceedingly difficult! So when someone boasts on how goddamn independent they are, I usually think they’re full of shit. You don’t exist as a separate entity cut off from other human beings, unless you also don’t give a shit about not getting along with anyone or finding a mate.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
How the hell does weightlifting get pegged as the frivolous act in favor of more parties?[/quote]
I personally think it has to do with societal conditioning.
Work: I essential to pay the bills. According to society, if you have a fantastic, top echelon job, then you are ‘successful’, motivated, a good breadwinner/provider/Alpha Male/resource. Society rarely views this sort of thing as a negative.
Relationships: Society says that we should pair-bond and that if we don’t then there is something wrong with us. OR, males can go out and ‘score pussy’. The more pussy you score, or the better looking your partner, then generally the perception is that the more ‘alpha’ you are. Sure there are some negatives associated with this sort of thing (‘slut’, ‘player’, ‘trophy wife’, etc) but again, generally, the more successful you are at pair-bonding, the better society views you.
Weightlifting/bodybuilding: Well we pretty much know that society views this as mostly negative (‘narcissistic’, ‘little big man complex’, ‘self-obsessed’, ‘loner’, etc). Sure, a girl may swoon over you rippling torso, but if it’s ‘too’ rippling then she’s equally likely to wonder if you’ll spend more time in the gym than with her.
Out of the 3 facets (work, relationships, weightlifting), weightlifting is the ‘social misfit’ if you will. Or at least, that’s how it is generally viewed by those not into it.
Now we here know this is bullshit right? Except that societal conditioning plays a HUGE part in who we are/develop into.
Personally I had a very ‘proper’ upbringing at a very expensive boarding school. I tried to resist most of their dogmatic, conditioning bullshit, but alas, some of it stuck. For example I can’t shake the belief that if you’re not with someone in a relationship, then there is something odd about you. Consequently, there was always a naging doubt that my devotion to the gym was costing me precious opportunitites to start the pair-bonding process. I didn’t let that stop me, but that’s because I found a woman who understood - finally.
So my point is that although for many of us, our conscious minds KNOW that weightlifting isn’t the social misfit that the sheepl make it out to be, however that doesn’t stop our subconscious mind (which is conditioned from a young age to be our ‘right and wrong’ guidance system and which is largely programmed by what we see and feel around us) from nagging at us that we are engaging in slightly ‘odd’ behaviour.
That constant naggin can wear you down. Now I’m not saying this is why people take a step back from the BBing lifestyle, but I am saying that it can be a powerful contributory factor.
That is my opinion.
BBB[/quote]
It is not the sole reason for leaving the bodybuilding lifestyle.
And my aim of this post was NOT to deter anyone from getting huge! Where that came from is beyond me!
Where this became a fucking debate over who is average and who on here is so darn special and extraordinary is beyond me too!
I didn’t give it up because I didn’t want to be big anymore because of society’s views on overmuscular people. I gave it up because my resources–namely, TIME, EFFORT, and EMOTIONAL ENERGY–were being used to the extent that I had little else of them to dedicate to other areas. I said I… ME… PERSONALLY couldn’t balance it all! Did I fucking say others can’t or aren’t?!
I also asked, in adult manner, “How much are you people willing to sacrifice to achieve your physique goals, or any other goals for that matter?!” AS IF this is some asinine, IRRELEVANT topic to discuss amongst grown adults who THEY THEMSELVES portray as badass, hard driven motherfuckers to be reckoned with. Bodybuilding is an endeavor in which people have to go to the distance to compete or partake in.
And although I could be wrong (something SOME people on here can’t admit sometimes because they are always right in their own fairytale hardcore world), I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts that for every SINGLE hardcore bodybuilder who has a killer romantic and social life, there are (a) dozen(s) more who are hermits shackled to their kitchens, homes, and gyms! Can someone tell me how to eat 9 or 10 meals per day without being the former? Is there something wrong with the former (must ask to show I don’t think so)? NO! I simply ask if people will go a certain distance.
I’m also growing increasingly curious as to why GROWN ADULTS don’t understand the meanings of the following words or terms.
some
most
not all
many
several
majority
minority
sizable minority
tiny minority
nearly all
personally
personal
individual
individually
Somewhere along the line, some people on here came to misconstrue these words and terms that TWELVE YEAR OLDS can comprehend! That is, they came to misconstrue EVERYONE of them to mean “ALL”!
I think I was savvy enough to understand them when I was SIX! (Aren’t I special?)
Onto what others think. I admit, and I’ve said it before, I care to a degree of what others think. And this is impossible to avoid unless you don’t mind life being exceedingly difficult! So when someone boasts on how goddamn independent they are, I usually think they’re full of shit. You don’t exist as a separate entity cut off from other human beings, unless you also don’t give a shit about not getting along with anyone or finding a mate.
[/quote]
Brick, I don’t want to simplify too much, but you proffered up how your sacrifice was bodybuilding and this is a bodybuilding website, so I can see where folks might see that your post was solely intended to be about JUST bodybuilding.
the other thing is, most folks apply things to themselves, meaning, they really do think that everything is about them. Well, on here, everything is about bodybuilding or killing it in the gym.
BUT, the good thing is you did get some folks thinking. They thought of what they would or would not sacrifice. Sure they may have been off put by the very firm outrage of some members, but who cares? If it sparks some interest it is all good. AND I really doubt that Tim Patterson is turning away money from people who have no desire to compete.
it is a good subject. It just got taken way away from the original intent.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
AND I really doubt that Tim Patterson is turning away money from people who have no desire to compete.
[/quote]
I agree. Patterson was stroking PX and maybe doing a little dreaming himself. He ain’t gonna steer this site one fraction further from the mainstream than it already is.