[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
Double bacon deluxe[/quote]
What are those things on top of the cheese there…that red, non-beef material and the leaf-like green substance encroaching upon the rest of the burger? Some type of contamination?[/quote]
This actually made me LOL for real.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
Its tough. JESUS,Its tough. The only time I have to myself is a 2 hour crack in the early morning before going to work for 8 hours or going to school and finish up some projects. I only work during the weekends,not by choice either. Its retarded that my classes had to spread out the way it does. In a perfect world,I would be working for 5 days and have 4 classes for 2 days. Its tough trying to grow when your only giving 20 hours a week to work and then have that money burn away on gas and food and a gf. Im not complaining though,I want to get big and I realized that I have to sacrifice somethings. No more steak night with the guys,no more pool,no more titty bars,no more drinking. Like I said its tough but the greatest feeling in the world is have girls do a double take.[/quote]
This is a great post considering it is actually relevant to my OP.
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Thank you brick. I have you to thank for my current routine & knowledge. (Bodybuilding Bible Thread,first page) In all honesty,I get really upset or downright pissed off that people bitch and complain about not “having time” or “not having money” Seriously? If time is a factor,stop jerking off to internet porn late night. If money is a factor,stop going to fucking smoothie king and Slicks. Like I said,im a fucking college student with a job…no weekends off and I work at night. I refuse to listen to people bitch about “time” and “money” when I have so little of both.
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You’re welcome. And thanks for the post.
Did you happen to get my text telling you I had to go to work very early the next day (8 AM) when you were in NY? I would’ve liked to hang out and meet you. I still got the number, so let me know next time you’re in Astoria. I was there last night.
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OH! Yeah,I was wondering why you didnt pick up after like 2 calls. I forgot to mentioned I didnt have text. I know,I know,what person my age doesnt have text? I kinda like the personal touch of a phone call,lol. Ill be in Astoria next summer or spring so as soon as I get there,Ill let you be the first one to know. Ill reference back to that NYC guide for your number.
Brick-I also ended up going to a really awesome strip club called “Onyx” or something like that. If your into that thing,I want to go again.
Brick, I read your 1st post and I think I get what you are saying.
I personally lift competitively but I am getting rather long in the tooth. I sometimes think that maybe it’s time to change my priorities, but I always run into the inevitable I still love what I do thing. I think that everyone ends up with some sort of balance between doing what you love and real life. It just takes time to decide. Myself, I had to let my lifting take a bit of a back seat until I got my life straightened out. I still trained but my head was too messed up to go to the next level. Now I’m back and the thinking is clear. Life always gets into training/lifting/sports and yes even investing, but if you love what you do it always comes back. There is always a time and a place for everything, and if you need a change then embrace it and go with it as hard as you trained or practiced for whatever you do.
BB
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
But when so much of my mental and emotional energy and lots of time and preparation to the point where there was little room left for FAR MORE IMPORTANT things, I decided to tone it down. I did love being 240 to 250 and some of the attention it drew. But EVERY fucking relationship I was in with that lifestyle FAILED! I had a relationship with one of the nicest women I ever met, who I actually was annoyed at during the time because she didn’t take exercise and nutrition as seriously as I did, with my oh-so-superior attitude. When she wanted to be lazy and sleep in on a Sunday afternoon and cuddle with me, what was more important to me? Showing her love and affection, or making sure her crib was stocked with the right foods or going to a Diner for breakfast or my workout that I felt I NEEEDED to take care of that day. What was more important? Spending a whole day in Manhattan with her or in her neighborhood which was 45 min from my place–when she didn’t even belong to a gym regularly, and if I slept over would have to leave her to go to a gym on a paid guest pass. Worrying about bringing over my own damn food or where my next meal was gonna instead of just going with the flow and engaging in a romantic day in the city together?
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This is a serious question Brick. Did you ever compete in any shows or really get to a very high level in bodybuilding? I ask because the above sounds like it’s written by a Flex Wheeler or Levrone who dedicated their lives to bodybuilding and should’ve won a Mr. O but never did. Maybe you were putting a bunch of extra pressure on yourself that was even warranted. In past threads and this one you go on about how it’s nearly impossible to build a very impressive physique and even hold a decent job. I’m glad there’s people like Prof X, Modok, Alpha, and Morepain to prove otherwise.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
But when so much of my mental and emotional energy and lots of time and preparation to the point where there was little room left for FAR MORE IMPORTANT things, I decided to tone it down. I did love being 240 to 250 and some of the attention it drew. But EVERY fucking relationship I was in with that lifestyle FAILED! I had a relationship with one of the nicest women I ever met, who I actually was annoyed at during the time because she didn’t take exercise and nutrition as seriously as I did, with my oh-so-superior attitude. When she wanted to be lazy and sleep in on a Sunday afternoon and cuddle with me, what was more important to me? Showing her love and affection, or making sure her crib was stocked with the right foods or going to a Diner for breakfast or my workout that I felt I NEEEDED to take care of that day. What was more important? Spending a whole day in Manhattan with her or in her neighborhood which was 45 min from my place–when she didn’t even belong to a gym regularly, and if I slept over would have to leave her to go to a gym on a paid guest pass. Worrying about bringing over my own damn food or where my next meal was gonna instead of just going with the flow and engaging in a romantic day in the city together?
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This is a serious question Brick. Did you ever compete in any shows or really get to a very high level in bodybuilding? I ask because the above sounds like it’s written by a Flex Wheeler or Levrone who dedicated their lives to bodybuilding and should’ve won a Mr. O but never did. Maybe you were putting a bunch of extra pressure on yourself that was even warranted. In past threads and this one you go on about how it’s nearly impossible to build a very impressive physique and even hold a decent job. I’m glad there’s people like Prof X, Modok, Alpha, and Morepain to prove otherwise. [/quote]
Where did I say it’s nearly impossible to earn high income and build an impressive physique–especially when I know people personally who have high income and sport impressive physiques and we have evidence here that it can be done because dentists and pharmacists earn upper middle class incomes?!
I said that SOME, and perhaps MANY people who earn high incomes are in positions in which they are left with very little resources (time, emotional and mental energy, effort) to work with for lifting when all is said and done!
I once asked my andrologist if he works out because he is not a small man and appears to be in good shape for a 60-something year old man. He replied, “I don’t have time to piss!” And he doesn’t, considering his CV spans SEVERAL PAGES and has accomplished more than %99 of Average Joes.
I also listed my cousin as an example, who earns $100k at 24 yrs old working for MTV. She is locked into a position in which she travels from NJ to NYC everyday, and sometimes doesn’t go home til 10 something at night, only to have to wake up VERY early the next day to do it all over again. So yes, she earns high income, but is in a position which is not conducive to looking like Gina Aliotti.
Many of you speak as if everyone’s personal circumstance is the same as the next person’s.
I had a very good physique, albeit a little chubby at 240-250 at 5’10". But most ordinary people at that height would be a little chubby if they reached 240-250. I had a 500 squat and deadlift (tested 1 RM and really believe I could’ve done more in that testing) and a 375 bench. If I kept at it, I definitely could’ve had a 600 squat and deadlift and 400+ bench. Are those groundbreaking numbers? NO!!! But they sure respectable.
And I wouldn’t have reached those numbers and that bodyweight had I constantly missed meals and workouts to hang out with a chic and deal with her schedule to see her, and it wouldn’t have been done if I went out after work a few times per week rather than being in a gym.
Was it undue pressure? Now that I look back on it, YES, considering after awhile, and I’ve said before in this post, as I got older the ROI was starting to diminish greatly for someone like me who wasn’t going to earn ONE RED CENT from being big and strong and missed countless opportunities for other things in life because I needed my sleep (couldn’t stay out til 5 AM) and food (can’t really have much control of food or sleep during a weekend getaway in the Hamptons or sleeping over a chic’s house UNEXPECTEDLY because you happen to succeed in banging her out). “Jane, I’d really like to fuck you and sleep over, but do you have some egg whites and veggies on hand for my late night meal and breakfast tomorrow morning?”
[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
Brick-I also ended up going to a really awesome strip club called “Onyx” or something like that. If your into that thing,I want to go again. [/quote]
I go to Riviera strip club in Astoria sometimes.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
But when so much of my mental and emotional energy and lots of time and preparation to the point where there was little room left for FAR MORE IMPORTANT things, I decided to tone it down. I did love being 240 to 250 and some of the attention it drew. But EVERY fucking relationship I was in with that lifestyle FAILED! I had a relationship with one of the nicest women I ever met, who I actually was annoyed at during the time because she didn’t take exercise and nutrition as seriously as I did, with my oh-so-superior attitude. When she wanted to be lazy and sleep in on a Sunday afternoon and cuddle with me, what was more important to me? Showing her love and affection, or making sure her crib was stocked with the right foods or going to a Diner for breakfast or my workout that I felt I NEEEDED to take care of that day. What was more important? Spending a whole day in Manhattan with her or in her neighborhood which was 45 min from my place–when she didn’t even belong to a gym regularly, and if I slept over would have to leave her to go to a gym on a paid guest pass. Worrying about bringing over my own damn food or where my next meal was gonna instead of just going with the flow and engaging in a romantic day in the city together?
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This is a serious question Brick. Did you ever compete in any shows or really get to a very high level in bodybuilding? I ask because the above sounds like it’s written by a Flex Wheeler or Levrone who dedicated their lives to bodybuilding and should’ve won a Mr. O but never did. Maybe you were putting a bunch of extra pressure on yourself that was even warranted. In past threads and this one you go on about how it’s nearly impossible to build a very impressive physique and even hold a decent job. I’m glad there’s people like Prof X, Modok, Alpha, and Morepain to prove otherwise. [/quote]
Do we know what Modok’s and X’s social lives look like? Have we asked them what they had to deal with or give up in other areas of life to get that damn big?
You also won’t be able to find ONE post from me saying, “It’s nearly impossible to earn high income while being jacked” or even alluding to that. Go try to find one. You won’t.
I can even name some people who are jacked with high income.
My chiropractor, Dr. Durlan Castro, who has actually worked on Victor Martinez, Dorian Yates, John Bernor, David Palumbo, Rick Collins (who wrote for this site), and countless other major figures in PL, BB, professional sports, and so on.
My uncle’s friend, an accountant who earns mid six figures who just competed in the Atlantic States Masters last year.
Dave Tate
Modok
Professor X
Rick Collins JD
several people I know personally.
I don’t know where the fuck you people get off mincing my words around or think I have the reasoning and reading abilities of a 5 yr old!
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
he’s a decade or more younger than some on here who misinterpreted my writings.
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Keep taking pot shots.
You wanna shit talk this board or it’s members anymore here? Or are you gonna save that for other boards?
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The Mayor.
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Brick, I read your 1st post and I think I get what you are saying.
I personally lift competitively but I am getting rather long in the tooth. I sometimes think that maybe it’s time to change my priorities, but I always run into the inevitable I still love what I do thing. I think that everyone ends up with some sort of balance between doing what you love and real life. It just takes time to decide. Myself, I had to let my lifting take a bit of a back seat until I got my life straightened out. I still trained but my head was too messed up to go to the next level. Now I’m back and the thinking is clear. Life always gets into training/lifting/sports and yes even investing, but if you love what you do it always comes back. There is always a time and a place for everything, and if you need a change then embrace it and go with it as hard as you trained or practiced for whatever you do.
BB[/quote]
Thanks for the kind and thoughtful post.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
This is a serious question Brick. Did you ever compete in any shows or really get to a very high level in bodybuilding? I ask because the above sounds like it’s written by a Flex Wheeler or Levrone who dedicated their lives to bodybuilding and should’ve won a Mr. O but never did. Maybe you were putting a bunch of extra pressure on yourself that was even warranted. In past threads and this one you go on about how it’s nearly impossible to build a very impressive physique and even hold a decent job. I’m glad there’s people like Prof X, Modok, Alpha, and Morepain to prove otherwise. [/quote]
Where did I say it’s nearly impossible to earn high income and build an impressive physique–especially when I know people personally who have high income and sport impressive physiques and we have evidence here that it can be done because dentists and pharmacists earn upper middle class incomes?!
I said that SOME, and perhaps MANY people who earn high incomes are in positions in which they are left with very little resources (time, emotional and mental energy, effort) to work with for lifting when all is said and done!
I once asked my andrologist if he works out because he is not a small man and appears to be in good shape for a 60-something year old man. He replied, “I don’t have time to piss!” And he doesn’t, considering his CV spans SEVERAL PAGES and has accomplished more than %99 of Average Joes.
I also listed my cousin as an example, who earns $100k at 24 yrs old working for MTV. She is locked into a position in which she travels from NJ to NYC everyday, and sometimes doesn’t go home til 10 something at night, only to have to wake up VERY early the next day to do it all over again. So yes, she earns high income, but is in a position which is not conducive to looking like Gina Aliotti.
Many of you speak as if everyone’s personal circumstance is the same as the next person’s.
I had a very good physique, albeit a little chubby at 240-250 at 5’10". But most ordinary people at that height would be a little chubby if they reached 240-250. I had a 500 squat and deadlift (tested 1 RM and really believe I could’ve done more in that testing) and a 375 bench. If I kept at it, I definitely could’ve had a 600 squat and deadlift and 400+ bench. Are those groundbreaking numbers? NO!!! But they sure respectable.
And I wouldn’t have reached those numbers and that bodyweight had I constantly missed meals and workouts to hang out with a chic and deal with her schedule to see her, and it wouldn’t have been done if I went out after work a few times per week rather than being in a gym.
Was it undue pressure? Now that I look back on it, YES, considering after awhile, and I’ve said before in this post, as I got older the ROI was starting to diminish greatly for someone like me who wasn’t going to earn ONE RED CENT from being big and strong and missed countless opportunities for other things in life because I needed my sleep (couldn’t stay out til 5 AM) and food (can’t really have much control of food or sleep during a weekend getaway in the Hamptons or sleeping over a chic’s house UNEXPECTEDLY because you happen to succeed in banging her out). “Jane, I’d really like to fuck you and sleep over, but do you have some egg whites and veggies on hand for my late night meal and breakfast tomorrow morning?” [/quote]
Over and over in your posts you make it sound nearly impossible to achieve a high level physique and be very successful. Not just in this thread but in others too. I don’t know about X’s or Modok’s personal lives. Nor do I care because it’s none of my business. What does interest me is how they got so damn big while holding down professional careers where they need to stay sharp every day.
By the way, I see your e-bench went up 25 lbs since you stopped training so hardcore:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
Over and over in your posts you make it sound nearly impossible to achieve a high level physique and be very successful. Not just in this thread but in others too. I don’t know about X’s or Modok’s personal lives. Nor do I care because it’s none of my business. What does interest me is how they got so damn big while holding down professional careers where they need to stay sharp every day.
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FTR, Brick, I don’t think this is what you were getting at.
For the people who don’t understand what Brick is saying:
You’re not going to find many people who have a high paying job, a phenomenal physique and a social life that includes clubbing every weekend and semi annual vacations to Europe. Some things MUST be sacrificed in order to build the phenomenal physiques we’re all after. Brick has never, not once, said it’s impossible to build a great physique and make a lot of money.
However, and this should be common sense, the more of our focus and attention that gets dedicated to building a great physique, the less attention we have to focus on OTHER areas of our lives, which may or may not be as important to us.
It comes down to individual priorities. Brick has made everyone aware where his priorities these days lie. I agree, it’s not the mindset we want this site to attract overall, but Brick has more bodybuiling knowledge than 98% of the regular posters on this site and never puts down the goals of others. This is not a guy we want to run off the site simply because his priorities have changed.
Although, Brick - I’ll also add that it’s time you stopped telling us why you’re priorities have changed. We’ve all heard the spiel about 600 times, lol. 
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
The Double Stack is a worthy adversary, but nothing touches a baconator[/quote]
Okay now this is back on topic, the sacrifice of your coronary arteries vs the reward of pure fucking awesomeness. [/quote]
Wendy’s version of the McGangBang - Double Stack with a Jr Bacon Cheeseburger sandwiched between the stacks.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
You’re not going to find many people who have a high paying job, a phenomenal physique and a social life that includes clubbing every weekend and semi annual vacations to Europe. Some things MUST be sacrificed in order to build the phenomenal physiques we’re all after. Brick has never, not once, said it’s impossible to build a great physique and make a lot of money.
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Yes, sacrifices need to be made for weight lifting, but sacrifices need to be made for ANY pursuit that is going to set you apart from “everyone else”. That is why this thread got heated, not because people misunderstood what he wrote.
You want that six figure job? Chances are, staying out till late Sunday night may keep you from doing that for long.
You want that fine ass girl at the end of the table? Chances are you will have to skip a training session here or there to take her out a few times…with money you had better be getting to sleep early for so you can keep earning it…so it can help pay those bills as well.
If you can manage that job, you can manage some gym time. if you are simply choosing the gym as your one thing you can do without, that is no different than saying you give up partying all weekend to have more time for those other things.
How the hell does weightlifting get pegged as the frivolous act in favor of more parties?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
You’re not going to find many people who have a high paying job, a phenomenal physique and a social life that includes clubbing every weekend and semi annual vacations to Europe. Some things MUST be sacrificed in order to build the phenomenal physiques we’re all after. Brick has never, not once, said it’s impossible to build a great physique and make a lot of money.
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Yes, sacrifices need to be made for weight lifting, but sacrifices need to be made for ANY pursuit that is going to set you apart from “everyone else”. That is why this thread got heated, not because people misunderstood what he wrote.
You want that six figure job? Chances are, staying out till late Sunday night may keep you from doing that for long.
You want that fine ass girl at the end of the table? Chances are you will have to skip a training session here or there to take her out a few times…with money you had better be getting to sleep early for so you can keep earning it…so it can help pay those bills as well.
If you can manage that job, you can manage some gym time. if you are simply choosing the gym as your one thing you can do without, that is no different than saying you give up partying all weekend to have more time for those other things.
How the hell does weightlifting get pegged as the frivolous act in favor of more parties?[/quote]
One is work and is hard, I think you know which one.
Damn I just wanted to know what type of Topics was the OP looking to start in his new Forum or Group?
[quote]DJHT wrote:
One is work and is hard, I think you know which one.[/quote]
True…and that is why this involves discipline. What “balance” means to me may not be what “balance” means to Bricknyce. I won’t be going out every single weekend because that’s just not me. I don’t need that and I am the type to enjoy spending some time with friends at their house than at a loud ass club.
You don’t get to claim some experienced epiphany simply because you stop wanting to put the time in for a physical goal. It deserves no social credit and no applause. It is also no different than giving up long nights out so that you go to work fresh.
You do what you have to do to reach your own goals. The only thing that pisses me off are people without goals at all.
This is a BODYBUILDING forum, why are you even here/asking that question/werent you aborted if you dont want to be or even just live like a PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER (without ever competing)??
The above is my favorite way threads go, so ridiculous. I agree with the original post. Marginal costs and marginal benefits in health, money, attractiveness, and schedule get a little skewed once you go beyond a certain point, and that point for most people is way lower than even an amateur competitor.
Most guys just want to get ass and think they look like they can kick ass. This can be acheived with 10% bodyfat and beach muscles, not too tall an order for the average gym rat.
I do think most people benefit from having some insecurity that causes them to take massive action at the beginning and going beyond what would satisfy the average person, but we cant all be bodybuilders.