Sacrifice Versus Reward

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
Its tough. JESUS,Its tough. The only time I have to myself is a 2 hour crack in the early morning before going to work for 8 hours or going to school and finish up some projects. I only work during the weekends,not by choice either. Its retarded that my classes had to spread out the way it does. In a perfect world,I would be working for 5 days and have 4 classes for 2 days. Its tough trying to grow when your only giving 20 hours a week to work and then have that money burn away on gas and food and a gf. Im not complaining though,I want to get big and I realized that I have to sacrifice somethings. No more steak night with the guys,no more pool,no more titty bars,no more drinking. Like I said its tough but the greatest feeling in the world is have girls do a double take.[/quote]

This is a great post considering it is actually relevant to my OP.
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Thank you brick. I have you to thank for my current routine & knowledge. (Bodybuilding Bible Thread,first page) In all honesty,I get really upset or downright pissed off that people bitch and complain about not “having time” or “not having money” Seriously? If time is a factor,stop jerking off to internet porn late night. If money is a factor,stop going to fucking smoothie king and Slicks. Like I said,im a fucking college student with a job…no weekends off and I work at night. I refuse to listen to people bitch about “time” and “money” when I have so little of both.

[quote]four60 wrote:
Pimp WTF is that and why am I not eating it now?[/quote]

Oh man, have you been missing out! “The Baconator” is an absolutely ridiculous burger from Wendy’s which actually borders on profane. There’s something like half a pig’s worth of bacon stacked on top of a mound of meat and cheese with a density slightly exceeding a black hole.

And the best part…they’ve started making TRIPLE baconators! I haven’t had one yet, but I’m going to…

I respect you alot Brick but I don’t see why there need to be a thread about that. I could completely stop lifting weight tomorrow and chose to do something completely different instead and no one would ever get any justification. If earning a living was not something I had to do I could spend my days living like an hermit.I would wake up at night, eat a slice of white bread with non-natural peanut butter, head to my studio in my basement, experiment and create music with all kinds of musical instrument and electronic devices, do the whole circle of the clock, fall asleep on my board, wake up and do it all again.

Actually that might be my life goal if I had some balls and some talent

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
You know what this thread needs?

Double Stacks!! [/quote]

Would ya stop with the Double Stacks? …ok maybe mention it a few times more…:wink:

I’m trying to read the thread post by post and I get this subliminal message to buy burgers.

YOU need to post a picture.[/quote]

Of the burgers, or me? I have lots of pics, including my avatar, but I’ll assume you want a pic of the burger… : )

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Haha that works just great :slight_smile: Of course pic of you eating two double stacks would be EPIC…just saying :slight_smile: hehe.

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I consider it no different than those jackasses who drive slowly on the freeway but then speed up when you try to pass them so they can remain in front. In their mind, they must get off on holding someone else back.[/quote]

There is a lot of people still like that today, not just on the roads, but in our work places and in our schools as well. In Australia we call this “Tall Poppy Syndrome” - “a social phenomenon in which people of genuine merit are resented, attacked, cut down, or criticised because their talents or achievements elevate them above or distinguish them from their peers.” (from Wiki). A real pain in the ass, hence I moved to be myself.[/quote]

Move to NYC then, where people are too fucking busy and stressed out to think about pulling others down. [/quote]

THAT sounds like a plan. I went to NY in March this year at the end of my business trip, I loved it man. I’m in Singapore now, people are busy, looking out for themselves but they are nosy too and I don’t really like that part.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]mallen5 wrote:

[quote]jhng wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Ultimately I realised that there is no point in being as strict as I used to be, to achive the goals I want now. Sure, I want to be in the top 1% of physiques if there was a sudden ‘shirtless emergency’ at work. Sure, I want to carry around the kind of hard physique that would make any girl go ‘wow’.

BBB[/quote]

Actually, what I observed is that generally chicks in the more mature age group (late twenties to maybe early thrities), no matter they look hot or not, tend to look more than just hard bodies. Sure that extra beef would help, but seems like it wouldnt have the same ‘wow’ effect on younger chicks.[/quote]

You might be right, but I feel like it might have more of an effect, because “wow” bodies are becoming fewer and far between in that age group. [/quote]

MAYBE! But it’s also because MOST women don’t give a rat’s ass about muscles.
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Bullshit. Most women over 35 don’t have much to choose from. Do you honestly believe that if the average single woman of 35+ ran into someone making six figures, made them laugh, wasn’t a criminal but had big muscles that this would be a turn off of any kind?

Look at most guys over 35. You would be hard pressed outside of maybe some place like Miami or Muscle Beach in Cali to find even 5% who look anything like what we are discussing…even though that age group are the types filling male strip clubs where the guys look like bodybuilders.[/quote]

Muscles don’t hurt. But they are not necessary. I’ve been 245, and now I’m 210. I attract more women now. I don’t think it’s because I’m particularly more likable at this weight. It’s that my lifestyle has become more flexible. [/quote]

Most average looking women would be intimidated by someone who looks like synergy on this site. That doesn’t mean they don’t find someone like that attractive. It means they can’t see themselves with someone like that.

Most average women don’t workout. Most don’t even try to stay in shape aside from the diet of the week. if that is what you like, conforming to “normal” is easy. Simply stop standing out so much.

That doesn’t mean you instantly became a “10” chick magnet.

It usually just means now all of those “4’s” and “5’s” don’t feel intimidated any longer.[/quote]

It’s fine if you see it like that. I personally believe I attract more women, and yes, some more attractive than I’ve attracted before, because my lifestyle became more socially flexible. Doesn’t have to do with looks per se. What it has to do with is the sacrifices I was making that lead me to not get in contact with as many women. [/quote]

Dude, that everybody.

I went to my frat brother’s baby shower last week and his girl’s whole family was there (they hadn’t met me). i walk in the door and this whole house full of people (you could barely stand in there) just stopped talking and looked at me. I go outside later to get some air after dropping off my present and these women follow me outside. Most were in their late 20’s and early 30’s. He calls me later to tell me how many were asking about who I was and if I was married.

Look, we all have our own experiences, but these dumbass generalizations where some of you really believe women don’t like muscles is just bullshit. It may be cultural or even geographical, but women in Texas are not running from big guys.

It sucks that YOU have to tone down your goals just to get laid.[/quote]

I didn’t see this post before. It IS good that your physique helps you attract women. Seriously!

I myself was annoyed that I had to tone things down in order to accomplish some other things. You of all people know just how intoxicating and addictive it is to be big and strong and experience that rush you feel when you lift big! I didn’t like giving some of this shit up.

But when so much of my mental and emotional energy and lots of time and preparation to the point where there was little room left for FAR MORE IMPORTANT things, I decided to tone it down. I did love being 240 to 250 and some of the attention it drew. But EVERY fucking relationship I was in with that lifestyle FAILED! I had a relationship with one of the nicest women I ever met, who I actually was annoyed at during the time because she didn’t take exercise and nutrition as seriously as I did, with my oh-so-superior attitude. When she wanted to be lazy and sleep in on a Sunday afternoon and cuddle with me, what was more important to me? Showing her love and affection, or making sure her crib was stocked with the right foods or going to a Diner for breakfast or my workout that I felt I NEEEDED to take care of that day. What was more important? Spending a whole day in Manhattan with her or in her neighborhood which was 45 min from my place–when she didn’t even belong to a gym regularly, and if I slept over would have to leave her to go to a gym on a paid guest pass. Worrying about bringing over my own damn food or where my next meal was gonna instead of just going with the flow and engaging in a romantic day in the city together?

What was more important? Oh, you betcha: the gym, eating, and resting. All at the expense of missing out on a lifestyle, missing out on a nice woman.

I’m not saying this is what happened to every damn guy who lifts!!! It was MY experience, and because of this and other experiences I had to tone it down.

My best friend said to me once: “We know each other for 23 yrs. We’re like brothers, and you fucking rejected my plans so many goddamn times on weekdays after work to get together! Why do you think I stopped inviting you to fun places and events and my place?”

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

[quote]Totenkopf wrote:
Its tough. JESUS,Its tough. The only time I have to myself is a 2 hour crack in the early morning before going to work for 8 hours or going to school and finish up some projects. I only work during the weekends,not by choice either. Its retarded that my classes had to spread out the way it does. In a perfect world,I would be working for 5 days and have 4 classes for 2 days. Its tough trying to grow when your only giving 20 hours a week to work and then have that money burn away on gas and food and a gf. Im not complaining though,I want to get big and I realized that I have to sacrifice somethings. No more steak night with the guys,no more pool,no more titty bars,no more drinking. Like I said its tough but the greatest feeling in the world is have girls do a double take.[/quote]

This is a great post considering it is actually relevant to my OP.
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Thank you brick. I have you to thank for my current routine & knowledge. (Bodybuilding Bible Thread,first page) In all honesty,I get really upset or downright pissed off that people bitch and complain about not “having time” or “not having money” Seriously? If time is a factor,stop jerking off to internet porn late night. If money is a factor,stop going to fucking smoothie king and Slicks. Like I said,im a fucking college student with a job…no weekends off and I work at night. I refuse to listen to people bitch about “time” and “money” when I have so little of both.
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You’re welcome. And thanks for the post.

Did you happen to get my text telling you I had to go to work very early the next day (8 AM) when you were in NY? I would’ve liked to hang out and meet you. I still got the number, so let me know next time you’re in Astoria. I was there last night.

You’re doing what you must and sacrificing to meet YOUR goals, which is EXCELLENT!

I asked in this thread, “How much are you people willing to sacrifice?” and people thought I was expressing resentment and hate. Totenkopf here actually got the message and he’s a decade or more younger than some on here who misinterpreted my writings.

I love baconators but sometimes a double bacon deluxe hits the spot. I don’t think you get those in the US. But they are very close with but with lettuce, onion and tomato.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
I used to like the Wendy’s double stack until BK came out with the $1 double cheeseburger. It blows the tiny double stack away. Both in size and taste. I swear the double stack shrinks daily.[/quote]

Blasphemy!!!

Nah - BK cheeburgs are awesome too.[/quote]

BK Whoppers are like CRACK!

Double bacon deluxe

[quote]Cartman8675 wrote:
From my personal experience (not what I perceive in others, it’s not worth it to ‘maintain’. Stay home.

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I’m glad you keep it personal, because if I stayed at home and didn’t maintain, I’d become flabby and weak and my health would deteriorate. I’d actually REGRESS!

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
The Double Stack is a worthy adversary, but nothing touches a baconator[/quote]

Okay now this is back on topic, the sacrifice of your coronary arteries vs the reward of pure fucking awesomeness. [/quote]

I’m willing to have a 2- or 4-pack in order to enjoy life and food more.

[quote]mallen5 wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
I’m also fine if they don’t get a new forum. I suggested it, and it won’t be done. So that’s it. I’ll just keep nearly all of my posts in the nutr and supps and conditioning section.

And I of all people, who work in nutrition with education in nutrition and exercise science - why the heck would I be in someone’s way or discourage them from reaching new levels of health and fitness or muscularity or athleticism when that is what I learned to do for others? Does that make any sense?[/quote]

Brick- I definitely think your original statement was misconstrued, but it wasn’t necessarily meant to be a shot at you. It seems like a lot of forums change direction for whatever reason.

What you were originally getting at, if I am correct, is a really good point. I think there are points in your life where your goals may change for whatever reason. It doesn’t necessarily mean you’re not hardcore or as dedicated as you once were. There are varying degrees of success.

However, while I do agree with your original argument, I will also say that from what I have seen Deb post, she doesn’t seem to be seeking validation or attention. For some reason the words confident and playful come to mind.

I could be wrong, but that’s how I perceive it. [/quote]

I forgot to address your thoughtful and kind posts and for considering me not to be an Average Joe.

Thank you.

[quote]debraD wrote:
Double bacon deluxe[/quote]

What are those things on top of the cheese there…that red, non-beef material and the leaf-like green substance encroaching upon the rest of the burger? Some type of contamination?

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
he’s a decade or more younger than some on here who misinterpreted my writings.
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Keep taking pot shots.

You wanna shit talk this board or it’s members anymore here? Or are you gonna save that for other boards?

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I respect you alot Brick but I don’t see why there need to be a thread about that. I could completely stop lifting weight tomorrow and chose to do something completely different instead and no one would ever get any justification. If earning a living was not something I had to do I could spend my days living like an hermit.I would wake up at night, eat a slice of white bread with non-natural peanut butter, head to my studio in my basement, experiment and create music with all kinds of musical instrument and electronic devices, do the whole circle of the clock, fall asleep on my board, wake up and do it all again.

Actually that might be my life goal if I had some balls and some talent[/quote]

The flow of your words and sentence structure (mine isn’t the best sometimes either) leads me to not understand what you’re getting at.

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I respect you alot Brick but I don’t see why there need to be a thread about that. I could completely stop lifting weight tomorrow and chose to do something completely different instead and no one would ever get any justification. If earning a living was not something I had to do I could spend my days living like an hermit.I would wake up at night, eat a slice of white bread with non-natural peanut butter, head to my studio in my basement, experiment and create music with all kinds of musical instrument and electronic devices, do the whole circle of the clock, fall asleep on my board, wake up and do it all again.

Actually that might be my life goal if I had some balls and some talent[/quote]

I, too have absolutely no idea as to what you’re trying to convey here, so here is a picture of a hot chick devouring a burger

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
he’s a decade or more younger than some on here who misinterpreted my writings.
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Keep taking pot shots.

You wanna shit talk this board or it’s members anymore here? Or are you gonna save that for other boards?

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I’m not taking shots at anyone. Rather I’m saying people misinterpret what I write or don’t read it in full.

Brick I think you’re a very intelligent man and you bring up some very good points in this thread. Not sure why it had to turn into such a shit storm though… That is all