Ryan Kennelly's 1036lb Bench Press!

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[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:

Nothing, in any sport makes as big of a difference as a bench shirt. [/quote]

I just pointed out three specific items that make at least as much, if not more of a difference. And I could keep going, but it wouldn’t matter since you just keep trying to reshape the discussion to fit your opinion.

I didn’t just say “bat.” I said “aluminum” bat. Comprehend much? You can play baseball without an aluminum bat; they do it in the Major Leagues.

Since you’re having problems with this, let me help you out, chief. It’s not about playing baseball without a bat, or pole vaulting without a pole; it’s about the level of technology in the equipment.

You can pole vault with bamboo, yet fiber glass is what is used today. So, are new pole vaulting records set because of the pole or the person? Well, it’s both. The standard is set higher because of the equipment, but there are still athletes that are stronger than athletes of past.

Same damn, fucking thing with bench pressing! The shirts are better and the lifters are stronger. It’s like this in every freakin’ sport, genius.

Shouldn’t every sport involve athlete’s proud of what their body can accomplish? I sure don’t want a quarterback that is ashamed of his throwing arm. Or a sprinter worried about his starting speed.

You really have no argument here. Your analogies suck. Your logic fails. Why can’t you just say you don’t like bench shirts and leave it at that? Don’t try to justify it or make others follow your opinion. Just say, that you have no reason to, but you just don’t like that people you don’t know, in a sport you don’t like, use equipment you don’t understand.

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"Why can’t you just say you don’t like bench shirts and leave it at that? Don’t try to justify it or make others follow your opinion. Just say, that you have no reason to, but you just don’t like that people you don’t know, in a sport you don’t like, use equipment you don’t understand. "

Spot on!

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[quote]mattwray wrote:
Shadowzz4, what are your best competition lifts and what federation do you compete in?[/quote]

BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA the silence is deafening. Great post!!

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[quote]IainK wrote:
"Why can’t you just say you don’t like bench shirts and leave it at that? Don’t try to justify it or make others follow your opinion. Just say, that you have no reason to, but you just don’t like that people you don’t know, in a sport you don’t like, use equipment you don’t understand. "

Spot on![/quote]

Hey man, thats not true at all, I think powerlifting style is a good way to go. And if that is you in the picture thats a damn good deadlift bro, I’ve been saying it the whole time the athletes are just as good with or without the shirt, I just dont think they should be allowed, or have strict rules on them, thats all.

And I dont expect you guys to agree, how many people that play a sport would willingly agree that a part of their sport inflated how good at the sport an athlete was? Not many, of course you guys arent going to agree. But there were a few that did.

And Mattwray I have never been in a powerlifting competition. I played JUCO basketball, Im 6’4" 210, my best squat was 365. My best deadlift was 365x6, my best bench 295, but I work like hell on them, I think my form and depth is pretty damn good.

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[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:

And Mattwray I have never been in a powerlifting competition. I played JUCO basketball, Im 6’4" 210, my best squat was 365. My best deadlift was 365x6, my best bench 295, but I work like hell on them, I think my form and depth is pretty damn good.[/quote]

Well. I appreciate your honesty. Now- go eat something.

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[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
And Mattwray I have never been in a powerlifting competition.[/quote]

If you are not a powerlifter, than what do you give a shit about what we do? I am genuinely interested to hear why you are concerned with the rules of a sport you don’t follow or participate in. Or better yet, why you feel you should be the one to make the rules in said sport.

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[quote]mattwray wrote:
Shadowzz4 wrote:
And Mattwray I have never been in a powerlifting competition.

If you are not a powerlifter, than what do you give a shit about what we do? I am genuinely interested to hear why you are concerned with the rules of a sport you don’t follow or participate in. Or better yet, why you feel you should be the one to make the rules in said sport.[/quote]

Good question. You know I like powerlifting and I think even at my best I would not be very good, so I just keep working on getting my numbers up. I dont have any lack of respect for powerlifters, just the fact that shirts are such a big part of competitions. To be honest, I dont see why it offends you so much what I think. Im not saying that you arent a strong guy or that powerlifters arent good athletes and damn strong people.

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I’m not offended, I don’t really care what anyone thinks of me or my lifts. I do what I do because I enjoy it. I don’t let Internet stuff bother me.

I would like to see some of the anti-shirt people give them a try though. What is the worst that can happen? The RAW movement excommunicates you? See what all the hype is, so you can have a better understanding of what the debate is.

Why do you think the shirts are such big part of the competition? None of the meets I have been to or lifted in did anyone make a big deal of shirts.

The only place where shirts are a big deal is the Internet, which is why you see so few big lifters online. Too much negative bullshit to deal with.

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[quote]OneDay wrote:
As a powerlifter, I feel it is my duty to interject. 1000 lbs is 1000 lbs. I don’t care what you have on your body or in your body, it’s still 1000 lbs. Louie Simmons used to say that he could put his bench shirt in the corner with a bottle of test and it wouldn’t lift shit. [/quote]

I could put a forklift in the corner and it wouldnt lift shit…

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Id be willing to bet he could put a bench shirt on you and you wouldnt lift shit either.

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[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
Id be willing to bet he could put a bench shirt on you and you wouldnt lift shit either.[/quote]

And that has what to do with what again?

If long jumpers suddenly had a trampoline installed at the beginning of the track, I’d think it was bullshit. Regardless of how far I can or cannot jump.

If golf balls were installed with magnets that pulled them towards the hole, I’d say that would take away a good deal from the sport. But I’m sure you’d just say I think that because I cant golf.

If sprinters were shot out of a fucking cannon, if boxers could use weighted gloves, if corked bats were legal in baseball, if O-lifters or strongmen wore suits that would increase their lifts by hundreds of pounds I’d say any of those things would be ridiculous. But thats just because I dont sprint, box, play baseball, snatch, c&j, or compete strongman…right?

But hey, I’m not the one with the ego who cant accept that they can “only” bench 700 lbs, and has to throw on a triple ply to get to 900.

Maybe one day they’ll hold powerlifting competitions on the moon. Underwater. With 7 layer kevlar bench shirts. With springs. And a spotter deadlifting the bar off your chest. And by “spotter”, I mean forklift.

Because, hey, 20,000 pounds is 20,000 pounds. I could put a swimming pool on the moon with a forklift and a ridiculous bench shirt and it wouldnt lift shit…

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What does that have to do with?

A bunch of weak keyboard warriors talking shit about a sport that they dont participate in, dont train for, and dont even support in the least.

How many big benching powerlifters do you know? Are you in any way qualified to make the assumption that they are unable to accept the fact that they bench less without a shirt? Last time I checked none of them had trouble admitting that.

Everyone uses the shirts in equipped powerlifting. Its an accepted part of the sport. Its not like someone is sneaking in a corked bat.

Unlike many of the sports you mentioned, powerlifting is for and by lifters. The majority of them dont care what outsiders think. Theyre not looking for big money, theyre not looking for the front page of the sports section. What outsiders think of their sport is of very little consequence.

Speaking of golf…you do realize that driver and ball technology has increased the distance and accuracy of a golfer’s game. Does that take away from golf? Shouldnt you be over on their forums taking up for the integrity of that sport you dont participate in or support?

Im thinking that maybe a 1036 lb bench press, shirted or not, just makes your dick feel smaller and youre going to do everything in your internet power to change that.

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Please re-read your post. You are now just getting stupid.

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

And that has what to do with what again?

If long jumpers suddenly had a trampoline installed at the beginning of the track, I’d think it was bullshit. Regardless of how far I can or cannot jump.

If golf balls were installed with magnets that pulled them towards the hole, I’d say that would take away a good deal from the sport. But I’m sure you’d just say I think that because I cant golf.

If sprinters were shot out of a fucking cannon, if boxers could use weighted gloves, if corked bats were legal in baseball, if O-lifters or strongmen wore suits that would increase their lifts by hundreds of pounds I’d say any of those things would be ridiculous. But thats just because I dont sprint, box, play baseball, snatch, c&j, or compete strongman…right?

But hey, I’m not the one with the ego who cant accept that they can “only” bench 700 lbs, and has to throw on a triple ply to get to 900.

Maybe one day they’ll hold powerlifting competitions on the moon. Underwater. With 7 layer kevlar bench shirts. With springs. And a spotter deadlifting the bar off your chest. And by “spotter”, I mean forklift.

Because, hey, 20,000 pounds is 20,000 pounds. I could put a swimming pool on the moon with a forklift and a ridiculous bench shirt and it wouldnt lift shit…[/quote]

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[quote]fightingtiger wrote:

Speaking of golf…you do realize that driver and ball technology has increased the distance and accuracy of a golfer’s game. Does that take away from golf? Shouldnt you be over on their forums taking up for the integrity of that sport you dont participate in or support?
[/quote]

You can’t mention that, it’s a mainstream accepted sport.

Please reframe from using realistic analogies in future posts. Next time, if you must pick on golf then use an idiotic analogy such as laser guided balls or some form of artificial intelligence.

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I have a new thought to share. The reason why equipment is OK in powerlifting is because the people and authority in the powerlifting world define it to be OK. Simple as that.

Likewise, the reason why long jumpers can’t use trampolines is because the people and authority in the track and field world define it so.

Now, I’m not just talking about rules. I’m talking about culture. The problem with most guys who can’t accept powerlifting shirts is that they look at things too much from an etic perspective, basing everything they see on standards and beliefs their own culture has ingrained into them. These people should show some cultural relativism and try to understand powerlifters in an emic perspective.

Powerlifting is a culture on its own, and whether we like their culture or not, we have to show some respect, the same way we respect other religions, foreign cultures, etc.

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[quote]undeadlift wrote:
I have a new thought to share. The reason why equipment is OK in powerlifting is because the people and authority in the powerlifting world define it to be OK. Simple as that.

Likewise, the reason why long jumpers can’t use trampolines is because the people and authority in the track and field world define it so.

Now, I’m not just talking about rules. I’m talking about culture. The problem with most guys who can’t accept powerlifting shirts is that they look at things too much from an etic perspective, basing everything they see on standards and beliefs their own culture has ingrained into them. These people should show some cultural relativism and try to understand powerlifters in an emic perspective.

Powerlifting is a culture on its own, and whether we like their culture or not, we have to show some respect, the same way we respect other religions, foreign cultures, etc.[/quote]

/thread.

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[quote]undeadlift wrote:
I have a new thought to share. The reason why equipment is OK in powerlifting is because the people and authority in the powerlifting world define it to be OK. Simple as that.

Likewise, the reason why long jumpers can’t use trampolines is because the people and authority in the track and field world define it so.

Now, I’m not just talking about rules. I’m talking about culture. The problem with most guys who can’t accept powerlifting shirts is that they look at things too much from an etic perspective, basing everything they see on standards and beliefs their own culture has ingrained into them. These people should show some cultural relativism and try to understand powerlifters in an emic perspective.

Powerlifting is a culture on its own, and whether we like their culture or not, we have to show some respect, the same way we respect other religions, foreign cultures, etc.[/quote]

Please refrain from future use of rational thought and wisdom. These gear debates have no place for intelligence.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
if strongmen wore suits[/quote]

they can… Those are not just really tight shorts he’s wearing…

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Golf balls once had packed feathers in the center. Believe me, they didn’t hit those 300 yards back in the day.

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
Id be willing to bet he could put a bench shirt on you and you wouldnt lift shit either.

And that has what to do with what again?

If long jumpers suddenly had a trampoline installed at the beginning of the track, I’d think it was bullshit. Regardless of how far I can or cannot jump.

If golf balls were installed with magnets that pulled them towards the hole, I’d say that would take away a good deal from the sport. But I’m sure you’d just say I think that because I cant golf.

If sprinters were shot out of a fucking cannon, if boxers could use weighted gloves, if corked bats were legal in baseball, if O-lifters or strongmen wore suits that would increase their lifts by hundreds of pounds I’d say any of those things would be ridiculous. But thats just because I dont sprint, box, play baseball, snatch, c&j, or compete strongman…right?

But hey, I’m not the one with the ego who cant accept that they can “only” bench 700 lbs, and has to throw on a triple ply to get to 900.

Maybe one day they’ll hold powerlifting competitions on the moon. Underwater. With 7 layer kevlar bench shirts. With springs. And a spotter deadlifting the bar off your chest. And by “spotter”, I mean forklift.

Because, hey, 20,000 pounds is 20,000 pounds. I could put a swimming pool on the moon with a forklift and a ridiculous bench shirt and it wouldnt lift shit…[/quote]

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I personally think they should outlaw the use of such devices in golf. Whats next? Rocket propelled laser guided golf balls? Its the exact same thing when you think about it. We all know that this sort of Wil-e-coyote nonsense always comes to pass in time. We as non-golfers need to take a stand against the egregious abuse of performance enhancing golf balls in golf. I dont like professional golf that much. I tend to stick to the putt putt course at my local amusement park. Besides, Tiger Woods is on steroids.