Ronnie Coleman Is a Freak

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Hey all,

I’ve just watched one of Ronnie Coleman’s videos and can see that most of his strength is purely from awesome genetics, a love for the sport, and a buttload of steroids.

However, his training parameters almost never change, his training variety is much lower than other bodybuilders,he eats far fewer meals than his competitors, including Jay Cutler, and his idea of a clean eating is 5 pounds of chicken bathed in BBQ sauce with another 5 pounds of french fries.

Hey whatever works, he’s on the top of his game. However, do you think Ronnie would be much bigger and stronger if he would change his exercise variety, and his eating habits?

just a thought
-poper

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[quote]poper wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve just watched one of Ronnie Coleman’s videos and can see that most of his strength is purely from awesome genetics, a love for the sport, and a buttload of steroids.

However, his training parameters almost never change, his training variety is much lower than other bodybuilders,he eats far fewer meals than his competitors, including Jay Cutler, and his idea of a clean eating is 5 pounds of chicken bathed in BBQ sauce with another 5 pounds of french fries.

Hey whatever works, he’s on the top of his game. However, do you think Ronnie would be much bigger and stronger if he would change his exercise variety, and his eating habits?

just a thought
-poper[/quote]

It’s not french fries… its regular potatoes, sliced and baked … no oil involved. Just like eating a regular potatoe.

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[quote]poper wrote:
Hey all,

I’ve just watched one of Ronnie

I’d be a little leary of throwing around, what look like, Coleman’s videos and can see that most of his strength is purely from awesome genetics, a love for the sport, and a buttload of steroids.

However, his training parameters almost never change, his training variety is much lower than other bodybuilders,he eats far fewer meals than his competitors, including Jay Cutler, and his idea of a clean eating is 5 pounds of chicken bathed in BBQ sauce with another 5 pounds of french fries.

Hey whatever works, he’s on the top of his game. However, do you think Ronnie would be much bigger and stronger if he would change his exercise variety, and his eating habits?

just a thought
-poper[/quote]

I don’t know how much stronger he could get. The guy is easily the strongest bodybuilder going. I’m not certain of his #s, but I believe he squats over 800 deads the same and benches 500 for reps.

To also remain a bb, I don’t see what more he can do. I’m not especially a fan of his for the world of bb, but I respect his amazing strength.

I’d be a little leary of throwing around, what appear to be, condescendinremarks about his strength and how he achieved it. That man has put alot of hard work into his body.

And just how many years of training do you have under your belt where you feel you have the right to qualify, the denegrate his training and results?

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Did anyone see the interview with Sergio Oliva where he talked about getting screwed up by switching diets? Also, i think CT has said more than once that his girlfriend’s diet would make him fat. What’s true of our diets and our response to them is not (and shouldn’t be) true of Ronnie’s. I would expect the winningest (word choice is everything) bodybuilder active today to have figured out the best diet for himself.

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[quote]dond1esel wrote:
I would expect the winningest (word choice is everything) bodybuilder active today to have figured out the best diet for himself.[/quote]

I would also expect people to be less skeptical of that same bodybuilder due to his training technique and diet as if he is doing something wrong…in spite of the fact that he has one of the most “amazing” physiques on the planet. There have been many posts on this board and others where people condemn him for not using “perfect” form or doing partial reps. It surprises me when these comments usually come from people who weigh about as much as a common Ronnie Coleman shit.

I tried the potatoes and chicken thing, and BBQ sauce helps me get down a ton more chicken than I could usually stomach on its own. You can pick up small tips from some of these people even if you don’t follow every move they make. Also, someone his size probably burns more calories waking up in the morning than I do by lunch time. I am sure he can get away with a lot that most can’t during contest prep.

As far as his video, I think it is the best one that I own between his new one and the “Unbelievable” dvd. I may not agree with the promotion of weighing over 300lbs in contest shape, but for someone who took it to that level, he has done a great job and watching him train is amazing.

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Ronnie COleman is the real expert of bodybuilding. All the author’s with PHD’s might know more, but who cares. Really, it is so ridiculous that “experts” have criticism on Ronnie’s form. To the answer the question, there is no way that Ronnie would be bigger or stronger any other way. Essentially, I agree with Prof X although I am not nearly as good of a writer.

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Its tough to make these fine judegement calls. Sure maybe he could squat 810 if his diet was tweaked and form perfected, but its the 80/20 rule. And the boatload of roids makes it more into the 98/2 rule. He spends his time where it counts.

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God bless Steroids and HGH - I mean food.

God bless that food Ronnie.

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Watching those Ronnie video’s and dvds really got me fired up again… I have never seen anyone work as hard as ronnie in the gym…no one is even close…

back to basics…

free weights…
hard work…
clean simple eating…
and let me say it again HARD WORK…

I was overthinking and over analyzing everything…

now I just try to eat a lot of clean protein and lift heavy weights…

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[quote]SheekLouche wrote:
Something, blah[/quote]

How do you define expert? A difference exists between being elite and being an expert. Elite requires merely top-level performance, with little or no knowledge of the principles involved. Expertise requires absolutely no performance - all that is required is that you have extensive quality education on the subject. These are extremes, and calling Ronnie the ‘Real Expert’ is akin to calling Sir Isaac Newton the ‘Strongest Man That Ever Lived’. See, it doesn’t make sense.

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I keep having to remind detractors that Ronnie Coleman was a PRO, competing DRUG FREE and placing at the low end of the spectrum. That takes AWESOME genetics AND hard work, lots of power work for Ronnie to be specific. And when he did start using, he just pulled away from the pack.

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[quote]sasquatch wrote:
I don’t know how much stronger he could get. The guy is easily the strongest bodybuilder going. I’m not certain of his #s, but I believe he squats over 800 deads the same and benches 500 for reps.

To also remain a bb, I don’t see what more he can do. I’m not especially a fan of his for the world of bb, but I respect his amazing strength.

I’d be a little leary of throwing around, what appear to be, condescendinremarks about his strength and how he achieved it. That man has put alot of hard work into his body.

And just how many years of training do you have under your belt where you feel you have the right to qualify, the denegrate his training and results?[/quote]

I didn’t see anything trying to take anything away from Ronnie Coleman in the post personally, all I seen was someone who asked a question about if it’d be possible for him to be bigger or not. I don’t know what kind of diet Ronnie Coleman has, I’ve never cared enough to try and find out, but I see it as a perfectly legitimate question.

Personally, even though I wasn’t interested before, I am kind of curious now. How great is his diet? Assuming it wasn’t the greatest, would he actually be able to make that much of a difference regardless even if he cleaned it up a ton? He just looks so huge to me, it’s hard to imagine him being able to put on much more mass no matter how much he cleaned it up.

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[quote]counterfeitsoda wrote:
I am kind of curious now. How great is his diet? Assuming it wasn’t the greatest, would he actually be able to make that much of a difference regardless even if he cleaned it up a ton? He just looks so huge to me, it’s hard to imagine him being able to put on much more mass no matter how much he cleaned it up.[/quote]

I have all of his videos and he goes into decent detail of how he eats, especially in the first one he released in the 90’s. The man eats pounds of turkey and chicken. I don’t think his diet is bad at all. People, like the original poster, focus on “french fries” when that wasn’t what he was eating. It isn’t like he was was pulling up at Mickey D’s 5 times a day for random orders of fries. There is a large difference. To my knowledge, potatoes aren’t “bad”. Maybe some people are offended by Barbecue sauce. They obviously aren’t from Texas. Barbecue sauce is a must have (along with hot sauce) in most homes.

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[quote]mtotry wrote:
I have never seen anyone work as hard as ronnie in the gym…no one is even close…[/quote]

When you mean “work harder”, do you mean actual poundage moved (like the work equation: Work = Force x Distance) or do you mean the intensity he puts into his workouts. I’ve seen guys that are literally half his size (150 pounds or so) go to failure every set, do 25 sets per bodypart, and put everything they have into each set. I’m not saying Ronnie doesn’t and, yes, he’s the best bodybuilder out there, but there are sets where he could of done 1 or 2 more reps. Is this wrong to not go to failure? No. In my opinion, going to failure is a no-no for me. You want to work the muscle, not annihilate it (I think Lee Hanley said that). I am just saying I know people that put just as much intensity into their training as Ronnie does, if not more (I bet lots of T Men and T Vixens do).

On another note, I don’t know if we will ever know if Ronnie could make better gains with a perfect diet. One of my old training buddies used to come to the gym hung over once in a great while, yet could rep 300 pounds on the bench (he weighs about 215 pounds)while hung over, too. He could also go weeks without protein supplements and not lose much at all, if anything (his diet sucked, too). Some people can lose a lot without eating protein, yet some people gain muscle by just looking at the weights. Some of it (if not a lot of it) is genetics.

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[quote]diesel25 wrote:
God bless Steroids and HGH - I mean food.

God bless that food Ronnie.[/quote]

If it were just a matter of AAS/GH usage, wouldn’t we see a couple hundred thousand Ronnie Coleman proto-types walking around, especially a few in the IFBB? I sure don’t see anyone who comes close to Ronnie’s hypertrophied ass, ermmmm, not just talking about his striated glutes with that statement. :wink:

I don’t think a “cleaner” diet would add anything to his already massive LBM and gains, but that is just one opinion among many.

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I think it’s pretty foolish to try to improve Ronnie’s workout and diet regimin. The guy is the BEST at what he does. Only Cutler comes close. I’m pretty sure Ronnie knows his own body more than any of us do. Instead we can take what Ronnie does and learn the REALLY important stuff: training hard, providing fuel, and recovering to do it all over again.

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A friend of mine was telling me a story about some scientist type who was talking with Ronnie (a bunch of people were with them). He asked him if he gets up during the night to eat more. Ronnie said no and the guy replied that he should since he’ll gain more muscle, yada yada.
Ronnie looked at him, chuckled a bit, and said, “Uh yeah . . . maybe I’ll do that.” And everyone started laughing.
Not sure if the story’s true, but hey.

About the issue of eating clean. It sounds like he’s eating pretty clean already, and I bet if he tried to eat “perfectly clean” he’d end up losing a bunch of muscle. At a certain point there’s just no way to support that much tissue without fudging things (so to speak).

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im bigger than ronnie coleman. I eat clean all the time. I am going to go beat him up. I eat in the middle of the night.

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He may be huge, but lets be honest…could he run down a purse snatcher?

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[quote]jaimeo wrote:
He may be huge, but lets be honest…could he run down a purse snatcher?

[/quote]
Did we have to go there? Does he even carry a purse? And if he did, who would be stupid enough to snatch it? :slight_smile:

-folly

I figured it out! I ate the other .1 banana and now I’m HYOOOOGE!!!