Anyone do this? I like it and it allows you to use very light weight.
I always believed it hits the shoulders differently; thinking it would target the medial delts a lot but I’m not sure if I’m just imagining it. What do you think?
Now that it’s pulling day and I plan on vertical pulling, I’m a little concerned about overhammering the lateral delt region.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
Anyone do this? I like it and it allows you to use very light weight.[/quote]
Wow. It must be a great exercise if it forces you to use lighter weight!
Done with a slightly wider than shoulder width grip, It will reduce medial delt involvement for most lifters. Perhaps you’re different than most.
I personally use a reverse grip exclusively for standing presses, because I have way too many shoulder issues that can’t be resolved by moving a fucking broomstick around - and this allows me to push decent weight overhead without a stabbing pain in my rotator cuffs.
I would use wrist support when going even moderately heavy on this movement, but I don’t do this heavy or even for shoulders.
I personally use this movement purely when training back width, as I feel vertical pushing when standing is a great way to train the middle back/lats as stabilizers, which IMO works much much better for back width rather than just training them as prime movers (vertical pulling)… Also I find that throwing this in between heavy pulldowns/rack chins greatly improves the mind muscle connection with the lats, provided you’re pushing some decent weight overhead that forces your back to contract hard to support.
Yes, I see way too many people with severely overdeveloped lateral delts these days. Must be something in the water.
I’ve been doing this for years (think Chris Corimer first mentioned them in a magazine in the late 90’s), it totally targets the anterior delt. As far as using light weights, sure I don’t go up to what I can handle with a typical hand grip, but I’ll rep out with 185 or so while still keeping stress on my delts (no tricep lockouts).
If you’re just bored or the same stuff, or really want to drill that front portion of your shoulder, give these a try, without a doubt.
S
It’s weird, but I used to be able to do this movement without any wrist or rotational problems, but these days I just don’t have the flexibility to do it anymore! My wrists want to stay facing inward at the top of the movement so I end up doing a hammer press… bad luck for me.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I’ve been doing this for years (think Chris Corimer first mentioned them in a magazine in the late 90’s), it totally targets the anterior delt. As far as using light weights, sure I don’t go up to what I can handle with a typical hand grip, but I’ll rep out with 185 or so while still keeping stress on my delts (no tricep lockouts).
If you’re just bored or the same stuff, or really want to drill that front portion of your shoulder, give these a try, without a doubt.
S
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Stu, I thought I had thrown all of my Flex magazines out more than ten years ago but found that very same issue you are talking about just the other day. It is from August of '94 and Cormier is wearing camoflauge in the photo shoot.
Don’t all exercises allow you to use a light weight? I have done these and they seem to hit the traps quite a bit. I might have to try these again as I remember them feeling pretty good.
I think this particular movement can hit a few different muscle differently depending on where you actually focus your stress. I make sure I don’t go to full lockout for fear of shifting the stress and performing a tri exercise, when what I really want to do, it focus on the bottom 2/3 of the movement, and just feel my front delts pumping up with each successive rep.
S