Replicating Behind Neck Torso Arm

Hi Ellington, One of my favourite Nautilus machines was the BNTA. I really “enjoyed” getting into my lats without the weak link of my biceps and grip. The only downside for me was a tendency to rotate my arms forward as I pulled down. Over the past 40 years (since I last used one) I’ve tried to think of ways to replicate the movement and have spectacularly failed! Just wondering if you have you ever been able to think of something that involves the lats but eliminates (or minimises) the weak link of the arms? Or do you think there are other sequences of movements that are just as effective? Typically I now perform seated rows followed by pulldown (sometimes vice-versa). Thanks, Jeff

I do not believe there’s a good answer for your question. The Nautilus Behind Neck and the Pullover were Jones’s solution and few of them are still around.

I like static/isometric “pullovers” using yoga blocks on a desk.

For whatever reason I could never get what I would call a “good feel” doing the Nautilus Behind the Neck Torso Machine.

But the Nautilus Pullover Machine, IMO, is the best cable driven weight lifting machine ever made. BTW, I was one of the few fortunate ones who had the opportunity to use one of the first Pullover machines, when it had the plate loaded weight stack and was cable driven. For a commercial gym, I understand, a chain requires less maintenance, though it seemed more rough than the cable.

The nautilus pullover was and still is my favorite exercise of all time

You can get a better ROM using a cable and a single handle (double-pulley is best/smoothest). You clasp the fingers of both hands over the grip – interlaced → This is the part that removes your grip as a weak link AND limits some biceps involvement. Start with the handle about 45 degrees up from your forehead (10" out & 10" up); your arm angle will be slightly more than 90deg. Initiate with your lats and concentrate on ONLY rotating at the shoulder joint. The rep range stops when your wrists hit your upper abs. At the bottom, the angle of your upper and forearms will be slightly less than 90deg. In other words, the angle at your elbow joints should not change more than 10 degrees or so, from the top to the bottom of the movement — this will further reduce biceps involvement.

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Using ab slings from a high pulley or duel pulley is the closest I’ve come to replicating that machine.

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