What program would you reccommend to someone who has a lot of time to devote to lifting and a good home gym, full weight set, squat rack and so on? Gaining mass is the main goal.
Hey man, Im about to start Westside for skinny bastards and from what I’ve read/heard it gives wicked results in both size and strength. 5x5 is also a good program… really though if you are concerned with gaining a lot of functional mass from what I’ve seen just eating a lot, and adding weight to the Big lifts packs on quite a bit of Mass.
I know a guy who did the twenty rep squats routine- Google David Whitley 20 rep squats- and he got huge ( got soft, but didn’t have a belly or anythin ).
Start with “Starting Strength”.
[quote]stuward wrote:
Start with “Starting Strength”.[/quote]
This may sound a little stupid, but I don’t want to buy a book. I was hoping for a program on this site or one that I cold get for free.
I made up my own 10x10 program which was pretty good (I gained about 10 pounds) but it only lasted about 6 weeks. I’ve just been “maintaining” since then.
[quote]The-Protector wrote:
Hey man, Im about to start Westside for skinny bastards and from what I’ve read/heard it gives wicked results in both size and strength. 5x5 is also a good program… really though if you are concerned with gaining a lot of functional mass from what I’ve seen just eating a lot, and adding weight to the Big lifts packs on quite a bit of Mass.
I know a guy who did the twenty rep squats routine- Google David Whitley 20 rep squats- and he got huge ( got soft, but didn’t have a belly or anythin ).[/quote]
Hmm thanks. I’ve taken a look at WSFSB and I don’t really understand it. I’ll have to take a closer look at it.
5x5 is a good suggestion, thanks.
20 rep squat looks very good too. Thanks.
Are there any programs you can think of that are geared to someone who has a lot of time to devote to lifting. I mean like 5 days a week , a couple of hours a day? I have a home gym now so I can lift whenever I want.
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this is your best option. I endorse this 100%
[quote]wooldog wrote:
stuward wrote:
Start with “Starting Strength”.
This may sound a little stupid, but I don’t want to buy a book. I was hoping for a program on this site or one that I cold get for free.
I made up my own 10x10 program which was pretty good (I gained about 10 pounds) but it only lasted about 6 weeks. I’ve just been “maintaining” since then.
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You are stupid. If there was only 1 book on training that could be bought in your entire life, this one would be it.
search for WS4SB on this site. There should be a thread called “WS4SB appreciation society” in the strength sports section. I’ve been doing that for 2 months, and have seen nothing but progress
[quote]sawadeekrob wrote:
wooldog wrote:
stuward wrote:
Start with “Starting Strength”.
This may sound a little stupid, but I don’t want to buy a book. I was hoping for a program on this site or one that I cold get for free.
I made up my own 10x10 program which was pretty good (I gained about 10 pounds) but it only lasted about 6 weeks. I’ve just been “maintaining” since then.
You are stupid. If there was only 1 book on training that could be bought in your entire life, this one would be it.
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F U
WSFSB is good. You will get strong on it. Almost anything is good, and I’d recommend sticking with the same “style” for a while with some variations in order to achieve real progress. Like a year or so…stick with the same type of program.
Also, those guys aren’t kidding about Starting Strength. We can’t tell how newbie you are, and it helps to really learn the basics at the beginning.
Gaining mass is a function of diet, not exercise. Lifting increases strength.
I am assuming that you do not want to eat your home gym, so I would suggust that you use the search button and look through this site for some eating programs that will put some mass on you.
While searching, you also may want to look at some lifting programs that stress hypertrophy, so that you can do something with your new-found mass.
I would tell you more, but since you want it for free, yet resist any suggestions, I’ll let you do the work.
I haven’t resisted any suggestions. And I know diet is very important. I’m asking for advice on programs though, not diet.
[quote]wooldog wrote:
sawadeekrob wrote:
wooldog wrote:
stuward wrote:
Start with “Starting Strength”.
This may sound a little stupid, but I don’t want to buy a book. I was hoping for a program on this site or one that I cold get for free.
I made up my own 10x10 program which was pretty good (I gained about 10 pounds) but it only lasted about 6 weeks. I’ve just been “maintaining” since then.
You are stupid. If there was only 1 book on training that could be bought in your entire life, this one would be it.
F U[/quote]
With that kind of attitude you aren’t going to get nearly as much help as if you were open to criticism/advice.
I’d agree with Conwict’s advice that WS4SB is a good program (and his point about just about any program being good at this point) and about staying with a program until it actually stops giving results (which is going to be a while, especially seeing as you’re a beginner).
“Starting Strength” really is a fantastic resource for beginners such as yourself. The book only costs $30 and is well worth the investment.
I understand that you may be tight on funds and really not want to have to spend more money on a book. But, if you’re not even serious enough about training to spend a measly $30 on a book, then it’s tough for us to believe that you are really serious about training. That attitude might deter some people from taking time to give you advice, since they might feel that it would ultimately go to waste.
So, I’ll ask, can you honestly not afford to spend $30 on a book? Or do you just not want to? If it’s the former, then I’ll try to help you. If it’s the later, then you’re going to have to prove in some other way that you really are serious about training. Otherwise, why take time out of my day to write you something up, or take time to search and copy links for you to check out?
I stand by my initial advice: Start with “Starting Strength”.
Without knowing what you have done in the past it’s hard to make recommendations. This program only takes about 1 hour, 3 times a day. You may have more available but muscle is built in recovery, not in the gym. The link I gave you is the basic program. You don’t have to buy the book, even though it is a good investment.
That was only in response to the guy calling me stupid: sawadweebrob. That was uncalled for.
I thanked stuward for his advice and for the link.
What are your stats? What are you eating on a normal day? Lifting experience? If you want people to help you then a litte more information is needed. A 16 year old skinny kid gets different advice then a 35 year old slight overweight man you know?
[quote]wooldog wrote:
That was only in response to the guy calling me stupid: sawadweebrob. That was uncalled for.
I thanked stuward for his advice and for the link.
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Actually, you called yourself stupid on your second post when you said you didn’t want to spend any money on starting strength. The other poster just confirmed your stupidity.
You have gotten several good suggestions for the program you desire, yet you HAVE resisted, as in “I’m too cheap to buy a book”, or “I don’t understand WS4SB”. Makes me wonder if you want to lift at all.