I’m curious about which programs have worked the best for some of you. If anyone has tried at least two T-Nation published programs, without altering them, for their full cycle, which one stands out as the most productive for you?
Rolo
I havent done two yet to compare, but I am one workout from completing the Shoulders overhaul program and my shoulders are absoultely massive compared to what they were before. Has given me a real base of practical knowledge to further my shoulder size and strength in future.
I used to hate doing shoulder presses but now i fkn love it and there is nothign better than seeing yourself in the gym mirrors with 60 or 70kgs over my head being pressed. Makes ppl HAVE to walk around me 
Westside!!
It’s the only program were I make continous gains.
Korte 3x3: Ok but lacked volume at higher % and speed work, did hit predicted goals though
Westside for skinny bastards: very good, made good gains strength wise, wasnt eating for hypertrophy and doing lots of running, so didnt gain weight - but wasnt trying to.
Off season athlete training program: really good for hypertrophy, but I overtrained on it. My mistake as I used the maximum number of sets and reps advocated and included Olympic lifts on the lower body days. Next time plan on using sets & reps that get me in and out within 45mins
White can Jump: I didnt stick with the progarm 100% but used it and conjuction with a few other excersise and the “five dirty tricks” article to achieve the maximum vertical gains. I rate this progarm 10 out of 10.
EDT: 8 out of 10 for arm workouts.
5x5: For my body type this was actually the best strength gaining workout i have tried. 9 out of 10.
CT’s Pendulum Bodybuilding is great- as is his specialized shoulder routine- I really packed some mass on my shoulders with that one. Staley’s EDT for Arms is great. Ian King Great Guns in 12 weeks is brutal- but great. Alessi’s Meltdown III is also really hard- but very good.
[quote]Mr. Moose wrote:
Westside!!
It’s the only program were I make continous gains. [/quote]
Does anyone have a sample spreadsheet for the westside program?
Most every program that I have ever tried brought some gains. However, there is no program that I have ever been on that kept the gains coming after 8 weeks or so.
The short answer is change programs often!
Westside: never done me wrong, 10 of 10
1-6 principle: made much better gains in upper body than lower, 7 of 10
Meltdown 2: only did 1 cycle but it went great, 10 of 10…only do it if you have pretty good form on the o-lifts though, the last circuit of Day 1 was about the hardest 5 minutes i’ve spent in a weight room period.
CW’s Total Body Training was awesome.
But, like Zeb, I haven’t tried a program here that I haven’t felt was useful.
CT’s Eight Weeks to Record Bench.
With a little tweaking, 10 out of 10.
[quote]samsmarts wrote:
White can Jump: I didnt stick with the progarm 100% but used it and conjuction with a few other excersise and the “five dirty tricks” article to achieve the maximum vertical gains. I rate this progarm 10 out of 10.
EDT: 8 out of 10 for arm workouts.
5x5: For my body type this was actually the best strength gaining workout i have tried. 9 out of 10.[/quote]
I can find the “dirty tricks”, but not the “…can jump”, anyone with a link for this one?
thanks!
So far, it looks like CW, CT and Westside have a big impact. Interesting, anyone care to comment on why they think their number one program worked so well?
For me HST was just the ticket for post rehabbing a mangled body (back, knee, rotators; MMA can be hazardous to my health). The frequency and gradual increase of intensity sure helped. I believe my once again beginner/intermediate body is ready for more, so I’ll be doing the Westside for Skinny Bastards routine followed by one by CW or CT? maybe Pendulum Powerlifting.
During hard MMA training phases, I am influenced more by Charles Staley, his strength ideas are simple and work well to supplement the intense MMA training, i.e. I go for quality, and not much quantity.
Rolo
During hard MMA training phases, I am influenced more by Charles Staley, his strength ideas are simple and work well to supplement the intense MMA training, i.e. I go for quality, and not much quantity.
Rolo
Hey Rolo-
PM me your shipping address- for such kind words we are going to send you a present-Julianne
TBT and Ian King Limping Series were both excellent.
[quote]xtolgax wrote:
I can find the “dirty tricks”, but not the “…can jump”, anyone with a link for this one?
thanks!
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http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=460127
Enjoy 
merci.
[quote]Garrett W. wrote:
TBT and Ian King Limping Series were both excellent.[/quote]
Yeah, I’d also plug Ian’s programs. They are incredibly well designed. In some gyms it may be difficult to perform some of the supersets that his regime calls for as you need to get access sometimes to three (or more?) seperate pieces of equipment. Seems to work best during off hours at my gym.
For getting back in shape/losing fat I am a hyooge fan of Meltdown Training.
For getting bigger, I really liked Staley’s EDT for arms as the gains were exactly as he promised.
I have done QD, TBT, and ABBH by Waterbury, and they are incredible.
Anytime I try a program that is published here on T-Nation - I follow it exactly as written - including nutrition, and everything. I’ve never not made gains doing it this way.
I liked Chad Waterbury’s Total Triple Training (or was it Triple Total Training) quite a bit. Either way, that one worked well for me. TBT was good, but I burned out on it a little quicker than I would have liked. Joe DeFranco’s Westside for Skinny Bastards was really great too.
Kuz