If you are really pulling more than 2x bodyweight on deadlifts so far, then you are at least doing something right. Eat more and don’t focus on leanness yet.
My quick story:
In 2004, I was 5’11 130. I was a swimmer, respectably strong for my size but still a stick.
In 2006, I was 5’11 150. I looked kind of like you, but not as strong.
In 2008, I was 5’11 170.
In 2010, I was 5’11 190.
Today, I am 205, and I don’t regret it for a minute. Military deployments and poor training habits kept me from making great gains during that long time period. I just recently broke the 200 lb barrier and even though now I’ve got a 35" waist and not-so-visible abs, I’ve got 27" legs and a 45.5" chest. Trust me, it will all be worth it. Eat smart and train hard.
[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
This is when the site gets old, BigRed and DiBella are the trolls here. These guys probably have just as shitty lifts but feel qualified to give advice. Hey but then again Reds 2 lbs a month and DiBella’s 3 plate dips are impressive right!? NOT 2 lbs a month when you are adding size is a fucking joke. And 3 plate dips for 3 reps? nothing to be excited over. First off dips for kids under 200lbs which im assuming you are, are extremely easy. Dips like that for kids my weight, 250+ are still easy. Go to SAMA or GAL and stop giving bad advice.
OP up your cals and protein intake, an easy formula is BWx19 for calories and BWx 2 or 2.5 for protein intake.
Change up your lifting plan to cater towards your goals. Low reps strength, 8-12 will give decent size. There are lots of good programs around this site just use that search bar on top right. Cut out sprinting like Stu said and do 25 min stair masters or something of the sort. You do need overall size, but better people have started off from way worse. [/quote]
When did I say anything about my weighted dips being impressive??? I merely mentioned it because I am all natural as well as the OP. However, I am twice as big and remember when I was his size attempting to complete dips and such. Are those pics of you? I’m pretty sure I could do much more with many cycles behind me.
I am not trolling. An example of trolling this kid would be anyone telling him that what he is doing is getting him where he wants to be. And bad advice? Let’s talk about bad advice. Everything you just told that kid could easily have been read within 2 minutes of a google search. Damn man, your definitely a pro at giving advice aren’t you? Since size is somewhat proportional to strength, at 250+ lbs… you should be able to do some dips, huh? Unless you’re fat as hell and out of shape at 250+.
And for the record, at 190 lbs… nobody in my gym at college does weighted dips with 3 plates FOR ANY AMOUNT OF REPS other than the guys who are obviously on gear. That’s bragging I guess. Oh wait. I have a dislocated shoulder too. I think that makes it a bit more impressive that I can work through that injury in a year’s time to dip with 3 plates. Maybe you should google ‘trolling’ and look for the definition too.
[quote]DiBella wrote:
[quote]Achilles of war wrote:
This is when the site gets old, BigRed and DiBella are the trolls here. These guys probably have just as shitty lifts but feel qualified to give advice. Hey but then again Reds 2 lbs a month and DiBella’s 3 plate dips are impressive right!? NOT 2 lbs a month when you are adding size is a fucking joke. And 3 plate dips for 3 reps? nothing to be excited over. First off dips for kids under 200lbs which im assuming you are, are extremely easy. Dips like that for kids my weight, 250+ are still easy. Go to SAMA or GAL and stop giving bad advice.
OP up your cals and protein intake, an easy formula is BWx19 for calories and BWx 2 or 2.5 for protein intake.
Change up your lifting plan to cater towards your goals. Low reps strength, 8-12 will give decent size. There are lots of good programs around this site just use that search bar on top right. Cut out sprinting like Stu said and do 25 min stair masters or something of the sort. You do need overall size, but better people have started off from way worse. [/quote]
When did I say anything about my weighted dips being impressive??? I merely mentioned it because I am all natural as well as the OP. However, I am twice as big and remember when I was his size attempting to complete dips and such. Are those pics of you? I’m pretty sure I could do much more with many cycles behind me. I am not trolling. An example of trolling this kid would be anyone telling him that what he is doing is getting him where he wants to be. And bad advice? Let’s talk about bad advice. Everything you just told that kid could easily have been read within 2 minutes of a google search. Damn man, your definitely a pro at giving advice aren’t you? Since size is somewhat proportional to strength, at 250+ lbs… you should be able to do some dips, huh? Unless you’re fat as hell and out of shape at 250+. And for the record, at 190 lbs… nobody in my gym at college does weighted dips with 3 plates FOR ANY AMOUNT OF REPS other than the guys who are obviously on gear. That’s bragging I guess. Oh wait. I have a dislocated shoulder too. I think that makes it a bit more impressive that I can work through that injury in a year’s time to dip with 3 plates. Maybe you should google ‘trolling’ and look for the definition too.[/quote]
I think he just meant you’re being an asshole.
EDIT:
Also, who really gives more than a quarter of a fuck about anyone’s max dip weight anywhere, much less in the context of giving a physique rating?
^^LOL the funny thing is that you want me to believe you’re natural. This guy is a comedian too. So since you’re obviously lying… why should anyone believe what else you say LOL troll yourself e-police
University of South Florida. Look it up if you care to. Not really a joke compared to your CC degree 
Okay, thanks for the advices guys. Im thinking of bulking to atleast 165-176 to summer if possible.
And i dont choose the music in my gym lol.
LOL at guys getting into a personal argument on someone elses RMP thread. im not that strong yet, not that big either. 6’1, 195lbs at 17 YO. but at least im not insecure about it. im pretty sure that agression like this, especially on an internet forum is indicative of serious insecurity lol. not so much for achilles. but to the other guy, dibella or whatever, i dont remember, youre a douche bag. i understand how it can be hard to take someone seriously if theyre not that imressive, but if they were impressive, they wouldnt be asking for advice would they? youre just being a dick plain and simple.
Again achilles making assumptions about something he knows NOTHING about. USF was not my safety school. I wanted to go here. And yes, it was on a full ride. I could have got in anywhere I chose. Again I NEVER said I was the strongest natural lifter at USF did I? I just said there weren’t many natural people doing what I can. Natural meaning no anabolics of any kind, i.e. PH’s, IV anabolics, or any other oral-bol. And if you want to meet up I would be down to lift with someone else. No doubt I could learn a few things. But don’t brag about size/strength to me if you’re obviously NOT natural lol… Sorry I don’t have pictures of myself, but I do have a video doing dips about 5 months after the dislocation if you’re that bored. And for the record, FSU is a joke school man. Learn your shit before you start slangin stuff you know nothing about. You can sit there and tell me that your diet and training got you that far or whatever you want to claim. But myself and many others can look at you immediately and know you’ve been on stuff. Another thing is that even if the sports are drug tested, YOU KNOW HOW MANY FOOTBALL PLAYERS ARE ON SHIT? Ignorant to think that your sports are any different in avoiding those tests. I’ve seen some pretty incredible natural feats of strength don’t get me wrong. But looking the way you do and having those lifts… derp derp. I’m at the gym every weekday and sunday around 7-7:30 pm. Don’t be a stranger.
BTW. You broke a bone in your hand. Healing range is 3-6 weeks. I dislocated a major joint in my body that deals with almost every lift in the gym. It never heals. Doctor said I never would be able to touch a weight again. Your doctor probably said you’ll be good as new in 4 weeks. You’re such a badass! Sorry members of T-Nation if the truth hurts. Real sorry. I hoped nobody would be butthurt for asking OP to provide a video, but I guessed wrong.
I’ll be like achilles now. All nice and informative.
OP: Start increasing calorie intake progressively. Increase the weight and decrease rep ranges. Don’t do cardio like sprinting just yet if you plan on bulking up. 1.5 x BW for protein and approx. 3.5-4.5k calories a day if you can manage intake like that on your budget (It’s expensive to eat well and frequently). Increase rest periods. Stay out of the target heart range in between lifts if you can. Train harder than you have the day before. Enjoy your gains.
[quote]DiBella wrote:
BTW. You broke a bone in your hand. Healing range is 3-6 weeks. I dislocated a major joint in my body that deals with almost every lift in the gym. It never heals. Doctor said I never would be able to touch a weight again. Your doctor probably said you’ll be good as new in 4 weeks. You’re such a badass! Sorry members of T-Nation if the truth hurts. Real sorry. I hoped nobody would be butthurt for asking OP to provide a video, but I guessed wrong.
I’ll be like achilles now. All nice and informative.
OP: Start increasing calorie intake progressively. Increase the weight and decrease rep ranges. Don’t do cardio like sprinting just yet if you plan on bulking up. 1.5 x BW for protein and approx. 3.5-4.5k calories a day if you can manage intake like that on your budget (It’s expensive to eat well and frequently). Increase rest periods. Stay out of the target heart range in between lifts if you can. Train harder than you have the day before. Enjoy your gains. [/quote]
Your e-peen is so huge.
Dude seriously who the hell are you to be judging immediately who’s on gear and who’s not? There are some big and strong natty lifters out there, you can’t be calling bullshit on someone just because they weigh 250 and put up good numbers.
At least you actually made an effort to be helpful with the last post.
[quote]DiBella wrote:
BTW. You broke a bone in your hand. Healing range is 3-6 weeks. I dislocated a major joint in my body that deals with almost every lift in the gym. It never heals. Doctor said I never would be able to touch a weight again. Your doctor probably said you’ll be good as new in 4 weeks. You’re such a badass! Sorry members of T-Nation if the truth hurts. Real sorry. I hoped nobody would be butthurt for asking OP to provide a video, but I guessed wrong.
I’ll be like achilles now. All nice and informative.
OP: Start increasing calorie intake progressively. Increase the weight and decrease rep ranges. Don’t do cardio like sprinting just yet if you plan on bulking up. 1.5 x BW for protein and approx. 3.5-4.5k calories a day if you can manage intake like that on your budget (It’s expensive to eat well and frequently). Increase rest periods. Stay out of the target heart range in between lifts if you can. Train harder than you have the day before. Enjoy your gains. [/quote]
FAIL SO HARD
If the pictures on the first page are of achilles… He’s on gear. I can’t see his profile because it’s private so idk. Your lifts are that of natural lifting. Physically speaking your muscles have that steroid glow lol… like i said… if that is you in the picture on the first page.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]DiBella wrote:
BTW. You broke a bone in your hand. Healing range is 3-6 weeks. I dislocated a major joint in my body that deals with almost every lift in the gym. It never heals. Doctor said I never would be able to touch a weight again. Your doctor probably said you’ll be good as new in 4 weeks. You’re such a badass! Sorry members of T-Nation if the truth hurts. Real sorry. I hoped nobody would be butthurt for asking OP to provide a video, but I guessed wrong.
I’ll be like achilles now. All nice and informative.
OP: Start increasing calorie intake progressively. Increase the weight and decrease rep ranges. Don’t do cardio like sprinting just yet if you plan on bulking up. 1.5 x BW for protein and approx. 3.5-4.5k calories a day if you can manage intake like that on your budget (It’s expensive to eat well and frequently). Increase rest periods. Stay out of the target heart range in between lifts if you can. Train harder than you have the day before. Enjoy your gains. [/quote]
FAIL SO HARD[/quote]
How to fail hard?
all i have to say to achilles is this: there is no sixth metacarpal. unless you have a sixth finger lol.
dibella: youre still in insecure dickface lol. i cant believe youre so defensive to someone on the internet.
OP: dont let this turn you off of this site. theres still a lot of great info on here and some actually helpful people. some of the assholes are helpful too. just depends on if they actually have something helpful to say or theyre just insecure. and you can almost always avoid stuff like this if you first ask yourself if eating more or sleeping more might solve youre problems. dont even bother asking if that will solve your problems because 90% of the advice on here is of the “squats and milk” variety. not that that isnt great advice, its just very basic and general.
