way to go ren! work hard, play hard! lol
[quote]Ren wrote:
well, Florida was 3 days of a drunken mess with nothing nutritious entering my body whatsoever! lol
gonna switch to maintenance cals, take stand of where I am, and decide where to go to from here.[/quote]
[quote]Gabe299 wrote:
way to go ren! work hard, play hard! lol
[quote]Ren wrote:
well, Florida was 3 days of a drunken mess with nothing nutritious entering my body whatsoever! lol
gonna switch to maintenance cals, take stand of where I am, and decide where to go to from here.[/quote]
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hahahaha sounds like it was probably a fun trip. Was it raining out there or did you hit the beach?
.greg.
ok day three and so far so good, last nite i wanted to eat a fucking horse! i dont ever really drink soda but some diet pop did the trick of filling me with some air and giving me something for my sweet tooth.
weight this morning = 162lbs
damn down a total of 6, after 2 days!
also i know cat 1 is 12 days which means i could have a refeed on 12th feb. but after doing my refeed i was planning at this time to do 1 more 12 day bash. v-day is on sunday so i was thinking of just having a free meal on the 12th then doing my refeed for v-day as i will be going out to eat.
i would like to hear all your thoughts on this, and how you guys would approach this? i definitly want my refeed on v-day.
It rained on Saturday, which was Gasparilla. I pretty much just drank and played pirate. No beach, lol.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Gabe299 wrote:
way to go ren! work hard, play hard! lol
[quote]Ren wrote:
well, Florida was 3 days of a drunken mess with nothing nutritious entering my body whatsoever! lol
gonna switch to maintenance cals, take stand of where I am, and decide where to go to from here.[/quote]
[/quote]
hahahaha sounds like it was probably a fun trip. Was it raining out there or did you hit the beach?
.greg.[/quote]
wow had to hunt for our thread… lol
had a great day so far… wonderful workout and food still good 
having some major chocolate cravings… tomorrow is refeed thank goodness!
ash… good question… curious to see your responses… i myself would continue the diet til v day
but im not sure thats the right way?? i can only wish i was cat 1 good luck!
just stopping by to give some words of encouragement… keep it up everyone!
.greg.
Hi there,
New to the forums, I begun the Rapid Fat Loss diet this Monday after having brought the book and reading this thread plus the Rapid Fat Loss Vs V Diet thread. Currently 190lbs at 21% bf and am doing the cat 2 diet. I will be lifting four times a week followed by cardio, I will split the week with two lower body days (1 squat dominant and 1 deadlift dominant) and two upper body days (horizontal and vertical) do two steady cardio days and two HIIT days. I have been feeling good with the diet and have not felt hungry at all. 3 Days in and I feel like I have lost a bit of weight (going by the mirror) but I assume this is just water weight and the real fat burning is to come, I am looking quite a bit leaner however the adverse effect is that I feel my face is looking a lot more plumper. Though that might just be me being paranoid of just because I have not burnt any of the fat around the chin. Being a student I have been able to organise my meals well and am just subbing one meal a day on lifting days for a post workout shake. I have liked the flexibility of the diet in that I don’t have to always have x amount of meal so long as I get the protein in i.e. 180g -200g then its ok. I have not experimented much with meal just cut up loads of chicken marinated it will a bit of oil and cajun spice and then just whack it on the george forman grill and get the veg on!! Looking forward to see how this goes, am already pleased with the results I have seen so far and also with the fact that I have been able to keep a good level of strength in the gym. Will keep you posted
ok day 4 just about done, i was down ANOTHER 1lb this morning! i did come close to eating myself last night though 
…today actually wasnt as bad as yesterday so thats good.
keep it up rob, im jealous you get to have your refeed! knowing that there is a refeed coming has definitly helped when i have had cravings. sooo ready for 14th already though.
still need some input on what to do about refeed!???
I didn’t do cat 1. But seeing as how you don’t have a free meal and the refeed lasts 2-3 days, I’d push the diet till the 13th then begin the refeed.
go read the book again for what to do.
[quote]ashaolin wrote:
ok day 4 just about done, i was down ANOTHER 1lb this morning! i did come close to eating myself last night though …today actually wasnt as bad as yesterday so thats good.
keep it up rob, im jealous you get to have your refeed! knowing that there is a refeed coming has definitly helped when i have had cravings. sooo ready for 14th already though.
still need some input on what to do about refeed!???[/quote]
[quote]Ren wrote:
I didn’t do cat 1. But seeing as how you don’t have a free meal and the refeed lasts 2-3 days, I’d push the diet till the 13th then begin the refeed.
go read the book again for what to do.
[quote]ashaolin wrote:
ok day 4 just about done, i was down ANOTHER 1lb this morning! i did come close to eating myself last night though …today actually wasnt as bad as yesterday so thats good.
keep it up rob, im jealous you get to have your refeed! knowing that there is a refeed coming has definitly helped when i have had cravings. sooo ready for 14th already though.
still need some input on what to do about refeed!???[/quote]
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yeah I dont know if doing your one day refeed and going back on the diet is going to hurt? He put his guidelines in his book for a reason but I dont know if it’d be that bad or not? why not just do the 2-3 days then go back on till V Day as an abbreviated half RFL diet?
.greg.
(unrelated to the diet)
I did 5x5 bulgarian split squats with a barbell yesterday. I’d never done them before with a barbell before and it took the first two sets to get my balance down… long story short my last set i did 225lbs for each leg and I cant remember the last time my legs and glutes have been this sore. Walking up the stairs to my place is so painful lol.
Ok enough of my rant. Have a good night peeps
.greg.
you’re welcome.
[quote]gregron wrote:
(unrelated to the diet)
I did 5x5 bulgarian split squats with a barbell yesterday. I’d never done them before with a barbell before and it took the first two sets to get my balance down… long story short my last set i did 225lbs for each leg and I cant remember the last time my legs and glutes have been this sore. Walking up the stairs to my place is so painful lol.
Ok enough of my rant. Have a good night peeps
.greg.[/quote]
[quote]ela_999 wrote:
Hi there,
New to the forums, I begun the Rapid Fat Loss diet this Monday after having brought the book and reading this thread plus the Rapid Fat Loss Vs V Diet thread. Currently 190lbs at 21% bf and am doing the cat 2 diet. I will be lifting four times a week followed by cardio, I will split the week with two lower body days (1 squat dominant and 1 deadlift dominant) and two upper body days (horizontal and vertical) do two steady cardio days and two HIIT days. I have been feeling good with the diet and have not felt hungry at all. 3 Days in and I feel like I have lost a bit of weight (going by the mirror) but I assume this is just water weight and the real fat burning is to come, I am looking quite a bit leaner however the adverse effect is that I feel my face is looking a lot more plumper. Though that might just be me being paranoid of just because I have not burnt any of the fat around the chin. Being a student I have been able to organise my meals well and am just subbing one meal a day on lifting days for a post workout shake. I have liked the flexibility of the diet in that I don’t have to always have x amount of meal so long as I get the protein in i.e. 180g -200g then its ok. I have not experimented much with meal just cut up loads of chicken marinated it will a bit of oil and cajun spice and then just whack it on the george forman grill and get the veg on!! Looking forward to see how this goes, am already pleased with the results I have seen so far and also with the fact that I have been able to keep a good level of strength in the gym. Will keep you posted[/quote]
Weight training is supposed to be scaled back to TWO full-body sessions per week!
Did you read the book?
[quote]Ren wrote:
you’re welcome.
[quote]gregron wrote:
(unrelated to the diet)
I did 5x5 bulgarian split squats with a barbell yesterday. I’d never done them before with a barbell before and it took the first two sets to get my balance down… long story short my last set i did 225lbs for each leg and I cant remember the last time my legs and glutes have been this sore. Walking up the stairs to my place is so painful lol.
Ok enough of my rant. Have a good night peeps
.greg.[/quote]
[/quote]
hahaha. I’d only ever done them with dumbells before which makes it alot easier to balance but I liked the barbell. I remember reading an article on here about doing bilateral leg training and how it’s good cause it’s makes your limiting factor (the load on your back/spine) less of an issue. I think in the article the author said that doing 225 on split squats was pretty good or something like that and that’s why I wanted to try it out. Definitly my new favorite exercise. So now my goal is 315… I’ll get 3 plates on there soon enough… Or at least it’s something to shoot for
.greg.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]ela_999 wrote:
Hi there,
New to the forums, I begun the Rapid Fat Loss diet this Monday after having brought the book and reading this thread plus the Rapid Fat Loss Vs V Diet thread. Currently 190lbs at 21% bf and am doing the cat 2 diet. I will be lifting four times a week followed by cardio, I will split the week with two lower body days (1 squat dominant and 1 deadlift dominant) and two upper body days (horizontal and vertical) do two steady cardio days and two HIIT days. I have been feeling good with the diet and have not felt hungry at all. 3 Days in and I feel like I have lost a bit of weight (going by the mirror) but I assume this is just water weight and the real fat burning is to come, I am looking quite a bit leaner however the adverse effect is that I feel my face is looking a lot more plumper. Though that might just be me being paranoid of just because I have not burnt any of the fat around the chin. Being a student I have been able to organise my meals well and am just subbing one meal a day on lifting days for a post workout shake. I have liked the flexibility of the diet in that I don’t have to always have x amount of meal so long as I get the protein in i.e. 180g -200g then its ok. I have not experimented much with meal just cut up loads of chicken marinated it will a bit of oil and cajun spice and then just whack it on the george forman grill and get the veg on!! Looking forward to see how this goes, am already pleased with the results I have seen so far and also with the fact that I have been able to keep a good level of strength in the gym. Will keep you posted[/quote]
Weight training is supposed to be scaled back to TWO full-body sessions per week!
Did you read the book?[/quote]
yeah the book says two full body workouts a week and specifically says not to do HIIT. You’ve recently started the diet that and I’d assume that’s why you have been able to get away with your current plan (for now) but you SHOULD STOP. The diet is designed to lose weight because of the calorie defecit not so much because of the wokouts. Trying to keep that much volume/frequency in your training week is a bad idea. Stick with what Lyle says in the book and see what happens. Those are my thoughts on the situation.
I have read the book and maybe it is naive of me to think that I should be able to handle the volume I have put into a week, however I am lifting heavy and doing
Monday: Squats 6/5/4/6/5/4, Leg Press 6/5/4/6/5/4 and squats 4x8 then steady rate cardio 3.2mph 10% incline 30 mins.
Tuesday: Bench Press 6/5/4/6/5/4, Close Grip Bench Press 6/5/4/6/5/4, Bench Press 4x8 then HIIT,
Thursday: Deadlift 6/5/4/6/5/4, Romanian Deadlift 6/5/4/6/5/4 and 4x8 SumoDeadlift + steady state cardio.
Friday: Push Press 6/5/4/6/5/4, Incline DB Press 6/5/4/6/5/4 and Push Press 4x8 then HIIT
Maybe I will cut out the HIIT, I don’t think that the volume is over excessive, I just feel that if I only go to gym twice a week that I am somehow cheating, also it helps me stay motivated through out the week by spreading the volume over the week and knowing that I am doing something proactive (i.e. if i am in the gym i wont cheat, if I am at home I wont cheat as all the food in my fridge is for the diet, and when on campus I wont cheat as I will be heading to the gym as my gym has been organised around my classes)
Plus it gets me to go on campus(where the gym is) so that I do go to lectures and seminar which for the life of me seems like the biggest struggle 
May I also add that I am an avid mountain climber and have summited 5 of the 7 summits (largest mountain on each continent) therefore feel my body is quite use to having to do a lot of strenuous work on a very large calorie defecit. On a normal expedition I will expend anywhere between 8000-10000 calories a day yet will only ever be able to take in 4000-5000 and these expeditions last on average 15 days.
My last to climb Mt. Aconcagua in Argentina lasted 21days on the mountain, at near 7000m the altitude also makes it very difficult to eat as you lose your appetite. This maybe a reason why I think I should be able to handle the training volume I have set out even with such a large calorie defecit but then again I could be blinded by my own arrogance and bravado, which if it is the case I am quite willing to listen to your suggestions and make adjustments as my end goal is to lose BODY FAT and not put my self through the hells of an expedition just because I cant get to a mountain till the summer.
morning peeps
so i had a horrible headache
and insane cravings so i had my refeed yesterday… worked out fine
i think my body was just telling me to eat LOL
love how intune i feel with my body these days… the new class is mostly weight training
so i am only hitting cardio today this was my only day to sleep late and i do beleive it has
messed with my body??? i am noticing that the days i dont get enough rest i tend to retain fluid??
headache still there… not a full blown migraine but on the verge… hope i can fight it off
HAPPY THURSDAY everyone!!
And ela~ JMO but i dont think the rpl is for you? unless you cut out some of the training
i do see your point… i would suggest reading the book again or go on the rpl forums and read some
Lyle is very clear to many of the posters there… i think you will get your answers
he posts very fast to emails as well
love seeing how dedicated you are very inspiring!!
No one knows your body like you do but Will you be able to keep up your intensity level with that much volume on so little calories? I guess if you can keep your workouts intense and don’t have any recovery issues then why not? Maybe you’ve got the genes for that. I know I don’t/didn’t. Good luck man and let us know what you decide.
Are the two mountains you haven’t summited yet K2 and Everest?
.greg.
No the two mountains I have not summited yet are Mt. Everest (K2 is in Asia as well and is not on my to do list yet, I wouldn’t feel comfortable climbing that with only 4years alpine experience)and Mt. Vinson which is in the Antartic. Not for lack of want but more for a lack of finance.
I have taken on board what you guys have said and brashly remain committed to what I have already outlined, but having re-read Lyle’s book (in preference to Plato’s Meno not a smart choice in regards to my degree but ah well!!) And think that so long as I can maintain intensity on such low calories I will continue to do so, inevitably I will begun to lose intensity and at that point I will begin to cut back to a more recommended training volume, if only to serve my own mental convictions.
I will keep you posted now off to a two hour seminar on the Democratic Economy then gym. Just had my third meal of the day 1 cajun chicken breast and ample salad and a mug of green tea.