[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Don’t poke the bear.[/quote]
haha, why is this so funny.[/quote]
Because eventually the bear gets up and eats one of the villagers.
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Reading through this thread has pre-fatigued my brain.
I need a nap!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Reading through this thread has pre-fatigued my brain.
I need a nap![/quote]
now if you do a sudoku you’ll feel it more in the target brain hemisphere
I think people have more meme captions for your picture from about a year ago…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
You’re implying you’d shoot me with your gun if you couldn’t take me out a fist?
Good to know.
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?? LOL. Yeah, stay out of Texas. I am implying that if you talk shit here, chances are way more likely you will have to prove it also. Talking shit and simply walking away untouched as you mouth off randomly probably ain’t happening here like it does there.
That actually isn’t even a bad thing. Way less bullshit.[/quote]
Do you know how many dangerous people reside and resided in the New England area? [/quote]
??
LOL. Not the point. the average driver here is likely strapped. That changes people’s attitudes…not just the “dangerous” looking people either.[/quote]
You obviously haven’t seen The Town.[/quote]
Hey… I am sure it is on right after The View. So no. I haven’t seen it. I am sure it is “real life” though.
I am laughing at this…but I have to leave and actually do shit today.
The point is, maybe if you pass through Texas, assume the person next to you is strapped. That’s all.[/quote]
How sad must your life be that you think it’s a good idea to spend all day arguing on the internet. I just can’t believe that.
[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:
[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
serious question. when i pre exhaust chest with flyes, i feel an incredible pump and MMC during the few sets of flyes. but when i move on to compounds my chest is fried already and i feel my front delts take the majority of the pressing abuse.
i think i have to side with prof x and fatigue my front delts before pressing.
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I know everyone is arguing and blah blah blah…but whilst this thread has been building, I actually tried both methods that are being argued. Anddddddd…they both seemed to be alright for me.
I will say though that I can’t get a good back workout if I pre-fatigue my bi’s like X is suggesting. I much prefer to do pull overs first. However, I do not have monstrous arms either lol.[/quote]
That’s what is important.
The OP added me as a friend and said thanks also.
You do what works.
Leave the arguing about what “should” to the smaller guys who strangely have no pictures posted and aren’t built.
Also, ironmanzvw, nice back. No joke, but you are already bigger than the majority in this thread arguing about definitions and popularity contests. Keep it up.
I think the main point is, if you ignore advice because the terms don’t match and your focus is on hyping an author, you will be the one coming up short. Most of the really big guys I knew couldn’t give you the correct jargon for all concepts but they can describe it. Keep your mind open and focus on finding what works for you…not on being a training author Parrot.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:
[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
serious question. when i pre exhaust chest with flyes, i feel an incredible pump and MMC during the few sets of flyes. but when i move on to compounds my chest is fried already and i feel my front delts take the majority of the pressing abuse.
i think i have to side with prof x and fatigue my front delts before pressing.
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I know everyone is arguing and blah blah blah…but whilst this thread has been building, I actually tried both methods that are being argued. Anddddddd…they both seemed to be alright for me.
I will say though that I can’t get a good back workout if I pre-fatigue my bi’s like X is suggesting. I much prefer to do pull overs first. However, I do not have monstrous arms either lol.[/quote]
That’s what is important.
The OP added me as a friend and said thanks also.
You do what works.
Leave the arguing about what “should” to the smaller guys who strangely have no pictures posted and aren’t built.[/quote]
So then what was the point of you arguing that the method you don’t advocate, FOR YOU, wasn’t the right way if it worked for other people?
And before you say you didn’t, go back and read Super Saiyan’s post on page 12 that summarizes just about every post you made arguing against the use of that method.
For instance:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is WHY you pre-exhaust a muscle group…so it fails first and doesn’t interfere with the TARGET muscle group.
That is why pre-exhausting chest on CHEST DAY makes little sense.[/quote]
It makes sense and WORKS for other people. So why argue whether or not it makes sense? I mean, we’re supposed to leave the arguing to the smaller guys with no pics, right? And “do what works”, right?
[quote]cueball wrote:
So then what was the point of you arguing that the method you don’t advocate, FOR YOU, wasn’t the right way if it worked for other people?
And before you say you didn’t, go back and read Super Saiyan’s post on page 12 that summarizes just about every post you made arguing against the use of that method.
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I didn’t argue that it wasn’t right. I asked a question. If any of you wanted real debate and an exchange of ideas, you would have simply answered the question and then asked what concept I was discussing.
That is how everyone here learns.
Your way…the only thing that gets accomplished is a bunch of internet warriors exclaiming what they just read on a website makes everyone else wrong.
The only thing that happened here is me getting a term wrong. The concept stands and the OP benefitted. That is what matters…not whatever you are on about now.
Since he found help here, nothing you are discussing matters, does it?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]cueball wrote:
So then what was the point of you arguing that the method you don’t advocate, FOR YOU, wasn’t the right way if it worked for other people?
And before you say you didn’t, go back and read Super Saiyan’s post on page 12 that summarizes just about every post you made arguing against the use of that method.
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I didn’t argue that it wasn’t right. I asked a question. If any of you wanted real debate and an exchange of ideas, you would have simply answered the question and then asked what concept I was discussing.[/quote]
You did argue it wasn’t right and you left the evidence out of your quote. You said it “makes little sense”. Everyone with half a brain knows what you meant by that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is how everyone here learns.
Your way…the only thing that gets accomplished is a bunch of internet warriors exclaiming what they just read on a website makes everyone else wrong.[/quote]
My way? What are you talking about? I don’t believe any post of mine in this thread has advocated or argued for one way or another.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
The only thing that happened here is me getting a term wrong. The concept stands and the OP benefitted. That is what matters…not whatever you are on about now.
Since he found help here, nothing you are discussing matters, does it?
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No, as has been pointed out several times, and you dance around it like you did with my last post, is you definitely argued against what you thought was wrong. You got called out on it and sidestepped the issue by saying you got a term wrong. It was never about the term until you made it that way.
Now, when the shit storm is over, you come back saying you should “do what works” and not argue about what is right or wrong.
Yawn. Congrats, OP.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Yawn. Congrats, OP. [/quote]
LOL…seriously. Non of this other shit matters at this point. I should have just PM’ed you about the subject instead of starting this shit storm of PMS induced arguing.
But thanks for the compliment about my back X. I have been working hard this last year to get it wider and thicker…really came along nicely. My chest and shoulders are up to par with it (I feel anyway), but I’m really trying to find what will work for my arms. Starting last week I have been doing very high volume once a week for arms and then heavier on actual arm day. Trying to see if the extra pump work and frequency will induce some growth.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Yawn. Congrats, OP. [/quote]
No kidding. Classic.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]cueball wrote:
So then what was the point of you arguing that the method you don’t advocate, FOR YOU, wasn’t the right way if it worked for other people?
And before you say you didn’t, go back and read Super Saiyan’s post on page 12 that summarizes just about every post you made arguing against the use of that method.
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I didn’t argue that it wasn’t right. I asked a question. If any of you wanted real debate and an exchange of ideas, you would have simply answered the question and then asked what concept I was discussing.
That is how everyone here learns.
Your way…the only thing that gets accomplished is a bunch of internet warriors exclaiming what they just read on a website makes everyone else wrong.
The only thing that happened here is me getting a term wrong. The concept stands and the OP benefitted. That is what matters…not whatever you are on about now.
Since he found help here, nothing you are discussing matters, does it?
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Do I really have to post this again? So you never said it wasn’t right, huh? Then please explain the following statements. You didn’t just get the term wrong, you crapped all over the concept itself.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to “pre-fatigue” my chest on CHEST DAY???[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess that explains why mine keeps growing.
I’m doing it wrong.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You usually only pre-fatigue a muscle if it is interfering or becoming the optimal mover in an exercise when the goal is another muscle group. [/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is WHY you pre-exhaust a muscle group…so it fails first and doesn’t interfere with the TARGET muscle group.
That is why pre-exhausting chest on CHEST DAY makes little sense.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to weaken my chest WHEN TRAINING MY CHEST IN PRIORITY??
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am laughing at how the definition got switched.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Now mind you, your own personal experience shows this to be the case…but somehow I got it wrong.
I know this term may be used now in fitness sites, but in bodybuilding historically years ago, I think it meant getting a muscle that fires first when you don’t want it to to tire first.[/quote]
oh jesus, please guys just let it die now ok?
No good can come from keeping this going
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
oh jesus, please guys just let it die now ok?
No good can come from keeping this going[/quote]
I was going to. But he keeps coming back claiming that he never said the stuff that HE posted.
It’s just ridiculous.
off to do triceps
should i pre-fatigue my chest and shoulders?
maybe i ll include some leg extensions just to make sure i am not using any leg drive on my skull crushers
/px bodybuilding logic
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
oh jesus, please guys just let it die now ok?
No good can come from keeping this going[/quote]
I was going to. But he keeps coming back claiming that he never said the stuff that HE posted.
It’s just ridiculous.[/quote]
LOL
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
oh jesus, please guys just let it die now ok?
No good can come from keeping this going[/quote]
I was going to. But he keeps coming back claiming that he never said the stuff that HE posted.
It’s just ridiculous.[/quote]
LOL
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What’s “LOL” is you making statements about how dumb something is and then claiming you were simply asking a question.