Is Bodybuilding really this god damned complicated?
Man, nothing ever changes around here. You could set your fucking watch by this shit.
Pure hilarity.
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[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
serious question. when i pre exhaust chest with flyes, i feel an incredible pump and MMC during the few sets of flyes. but when i move on to compounds my chest is fried already and i feel my front delts take the majority of the pressing abuse.
i think i have to side with prof x and fatigue my front delts before pressing.
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Are you going heavy on the compounds?[/quote]
fairly heavy. up to a hard 6 reps. i tried the pre exhaust front delts today and it just emphasized the problem and made me get a great front delt pump the whole workout.
i think i found the problem though. too narrow a grip and tucking my elbows. near the end of my workout on the last press of the day i took a wider grip and flared my elbows and i felt all chest. beauty pump.
i just kept reading āgurusā state that going too heavy and flaring your elbows is setting you up for a torn pec or shoulder issues. my general rep range on heavy presses is 5-8 reps.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Lol Iām glad I got whoopi, she was great in lion king.
and I actually did get heckled by a man your age last month prof. dude was talking shit about my grunting while doing dips, so I asked him if this is a library or a gym. We laughed, he said fair enough, and I continued to grunt a bit. maybe when Iām older and wiser ill learn how to make gun threats on forumsā¦[/quote]
grunting is completely unnecessary in any circumstance except giving birth or passing a turd the size of a 2 liter.
[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
serious question. when i pre exhaust chest with flyes, i feel an incredible pump and MMC during the few sets of flyes. but when i move on to compounds my chest is fried already and i feel my front delts take the majority of the pressing abuse.
i think i have to side with prof x and fatigue my front delts before pressing.
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I know everyone is arguing and blah blah blahā¦but whilst this thread has been building, I actually tried both methods that are being argued. Andddddddā¦they both seemed to be alright for me.
I will say though that I canāt get a good back workout if I pre-fatigue my biās like X is suggesting. I much prefer to do pull overs first. However, I do not have monstrous arms either lol.
[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:
[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
serious question. when i pre exhaust chest with flyes, i feel an incredible pump and MMC during the few sets of flyes. but when i move on to compounds my chest is fried already and i feel my front delts take the majority of the pressing abuse.
i think i have to side with prof x and fatigue my front delts before pressing.
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I know everyone is arguing and blah blah blahā¦but whilst this thread has been building, I actually tried both methods that are being argued. Andddddddā¦they both seemed to be alright for me.
I will say though that I canāt get a good back workout if I pre-fatigue my biās like X is suggesting. I much prefer to do pull overs first. However, I do not have monstrous arms either lol.[/quote]
LOL i would never do biās before back. ive been doing pullovers as my pre exhaust for 3-4 months now and i love the results. actually ive been doing pullovers and pulldowns before i even touch a row and i love the results. much better MMC when going heavy on rows.
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
This went from blah topic to typical boring PX bullshit to fun to downright painful.[/quote]
Gotta admitāIām sort of weirded out by your obsession with PX. The manner in which you attack the guy really reeks of extreme insecurity.
While others have given the whole āyou wouldnāt say that in real lifeā schpeel, Iām actually reminded more of the middle school kid who isnāt good at anything so makes fun of people actually doing things so that he feels himself to ābelongā more. Itās just odd that instead of actually making productive discussion on a forum, you would instead opt to target and flame one particular poster.
Itās fair for the others to do so, insofar as theyāve been around for a while and whatnot. But you basically showed up to this forum with guns aāblazinā towards PX. Doesnāt make a whole lot of sense to me.
PX i think its time you admit you are wrong. Recently you have been acting like a damn child on these boards and i donāt understand why. Your opinion is your opinion. There is no reason to try to force it on others especially when its wrong.
Itās really sad to see one of the most helpful guys on this site become an asshat. I remember when you actually helped people (myself included and i thank you for telling my to eat that first burger) but now all you do is piss and moan when someone disagreeās with you. Then, you talk yourself up like your some kind of god. TBH i actually heard you invited yourself to CO and from the videos it doesnāt look like you preformed very well there.
Now i donāt mean to attack you. I still think you are a very knowledgable guy who has the experience in the gym to back it up. Your obviously big and have help many. Just try to lighten up.
so much feelings in these forums its faunny.
[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
This went from blah topic to typical boring PX bullshit to fun to downright painful.[/quote]
Gotta admitāIām sort of weirded out by your obsession with PX. The manner in which you attack the guy really reeks of extreme insecurity.
While others have given the whole āyou wouldnāt say that in real lifeā schpeel, Iām actually reminded more of the middle school kid who isnāt good at anything so makes fun of people actually doing things so that he feels himself to ābelongā more. Itās just odd that instead of actually making productive discussion on a forum, you would instead opt to target and flame one particular poster.
Itās fair for the others to do so, insofar as theyāve been around for a while and whatnot. But you basically showed up to this forum with guns aāblazinā towards PX. Doesnāt make a whole lot of sense to me.
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Perhaps PX reminds him of the one that got away?
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
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Is this just retardation? Caught in a shit storm. No escape from butt-hurt. Open your eyes, look up to the shit, and see I am just a troll I need to no baiting. Because Iām easy come, easy go little high, little low. Anyway the flame goes doesnāt really matter to me, to me.
On a serious note, Professor, just be the bigger man. It only hurts everyoneās look on you arguing a pointless conversation, is it pre fatigue: Not what is normally considered, did you say the wrong name for it:yes, does it work: possibly, it works for you, and other people. /leaving thread and the bigger shit storm and the likely more childish insults.
[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
This went from blah topic to typical boring PX bullshit to fun to downright painful.[/quote]
Gotta admitāIām sort of weirded out by your obsession with PX. The manner in which you attack the guy really reeks of extreme insecurity.
While others have given the whole āyou wouldnāt say that in real lifeā schpeel, Iām actually reminded more of the middle school kid who isnāt good at anything so makes fun of people actually doing things so that he feels himself to ābelongā more. Itās just odd that instead of actually making productive discussion on a forum, you would instead opt to target and flame one particular poster.
Itās fair for the others to do so, insofar as theyāve been around for a while and whatnot. But you basically showed up to this forum with guns aāblazinā towards PX. Doesnāt make a whole lot of sense to me.
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twelve pages later and I still feel like Iām on page one.
[quote]The3Commandments wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
This went from blah topic to typical boring PX bullshit to fun to downright painful.[/quote]
Gotta admitāIām sort of weirded out by your obsession with PX. The manner in which you attack the guy really reeks of extreme insecurity.
While others have given the whole āyou wouldnāt say that in real lifeā schpeel, Iām actually reminded more of the middle school kid who isnāt good at anything so makes fun of people actually doing things so that he feels himself to ābelongā more. Itās just odd that instead of actually making productive discussion on a forum, you would instead opt to target and flame one particular poster.
Itās fair for the others to do so, insofar as theyāve been around for a while and whatnot. But you basically showed up to this forum with guns aāblazinā towards PX. Doesnāt make a whole lot of sense to me.
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I highly doubt infinite_shore is insecure. I have no idea what goes on in othersā heads, but from his posts here, he seems like a confident, humorous guy. However, I think it IS possible to become fascinated, not obsessed (if one is normal), with PX, because the entertainment he has provided is astounding and seemingly endless. Iām a grown man who posts far, far less than I used to, and although posting on forums provides a diversion and has made me some REAL LIFE friends that I actually speak to and hang out with, I have to stay away from this diversion at times because of, you know, LIFE. However, when it comes to one of these so-called āshit stormsā involving X, I seriously have to maintain my discipline and decency by not posting as much as as I want or feel compelled to because theyāre so humorous and entertaining. I even have to hold myself back on Saturday afternoons, my usual fart-around time, from not refreshing the thread dozens and dozens of times!
I have nothing against PX as a person, and I highly doubt he has a malicious streak. I really think his physique would be better if he listened to people (yeah, even some of those āsmallerā (in many cases actually just leaner) than him. And imagine all that energy posting and arguing with people dedicated to something else?! Holy shit, maybe writing a book, spending time with a chic, growing his dental business, teaching something, personal training, and so on.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheDon12 wrote:
i just said dorian yates and john meadows because theyāre fairly well known and its worked for them but many people on this site have done it as well(Stu,Ebomb,Bugs,Blaze) and it seems to be working for them as well lol. im not saying your way of pre fatiguing is wrong but to imply sometihng is wrong like you were doing because youāve never done it that way is well just stupidā¦ especially if its worked many other peopleā¦[/quote]
Where did I say it was āwrongā?
Please show me the post that says this was wrong.
If you canāt find it, then apologize and move on.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to āpre-fatigueā my chest on CHEST DAY???[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess that explains why mine keeps growing.
Iām doing it wrong.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You usually only pre-fatigue a muscle if it is interfering or becoming the optimal mover in an exercise when the goal is another muscle group. [/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is WHY you pre-exhaust a muscle groupā¦so it fails first and doesnāt interfere with the TARGET muscle group.
That is why pre-exhausting chest on CHEST DAY makes little sense.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to weaken my chest WHEN TRAINING MY CHEST IN PRIORITY??
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am laughing at how the definition got switched.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Now mind you, your own personal experience shows this to be the caseā¦but somehow I got it wrong.
I know this term may be used now in fitness sites, but in bodybuilding historically years ago, I think it meant getting a muscle that fires first when you donāt want it to to tire first.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I donāt āpre-fatigueā anything.
I warm up like crazy though now.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Waitā¦I take that backā¦I do pre-fatigue my forearms because of the pain I get when curling. That is all I use it for. My forearms fire first (one reason I never had to train them directly) so fatiguing them means they fire less later in the workout when I go heavier on biceps.[/quote]
Talks about prefatiguing his triceps before chest 10pages, but never does it.
Fatigues his forearms before heavy curling.
What?!
^^Just let it go guys.
Prof X has admitted that he got the term wrong and is obviously trying to take the high road by not responding to the insults/call outs on the last page or two.
Donāt poke the bear.
[quote]gregron wrote:
^^Just let it go guys.
Prof X has admitted that he got the term wrong and is obviously trying to take the high road by not responding to the insults/call outs on the last page or two.
Donāt poke the bear.[/quote]
For real lolā¦
This argument has been beaten into the dirt, picked back up, spit on, and beat back down.
Someone go start a new thread. now.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Donāt poke the bear.[/quote]
haha, why is this so funny.