If I am 150 lbs, how many calories a day should I eat?
And wont the push ups be the same as strength training and muscle maintenance?
[quote]Baller1950 wrote:
If I am 150 lbs, how many calories a day should I eat?[/quote]
Enough to cause you to gain weight. As a beginner, the rate of gain can not be well defined as I have personally seen guys gain close 20lbs in a couple of months just by getting their diet together as they start training regularly. That means someone limiting their food intake would miss out on the potential of gaining like that if they have the genetics to do so. This takes at least some sort of observation on your part where what you do is based on the results you are getting. If the scale isn’t going up, you are not eating enough.
There are NO specifics. There is no specific amount someone can tell you to eat. It is up to you alone and until you realize that, your progress will stagnate.
The real question is, why did you have to ask.
Past beginner gains, tracking weight gain to about 3-5lbs a month is often recommended to avoid excess weight gain. This is all assuming you are actually lifting hard in the gym and not simply going through the motions…like it would seem many on this board are doing.
[quote]Baller1950 wrote:
If I am 150 lbs, how many calories a day should I eat?
And wont the push ups be the same as strength training and muscle maintenance?[/quote]
Push ups are not useless, but the answer to your question is no. They are also not a training routine.
If you plan on making your abdominals the center of your world, as seems to be the case given the fact that the highest level of detail you mention for weight training is adding weights to your ab exercises, you are building a mindset that will have you running in circles until you break it or quit.
Nuthin wrong with ab work, but it doesn’t make a good foundation.
Baller1950, do you go to the YMCA in Andover, MA?
Hey baller
This is a good plan from dhuge. Follow it and see your body change for the better. And, as the others have said, cut out all shit food & eat plenty of the good stuff.
Everything you need has already been posted on this thread so just get training, sort your nutrition out, and get back to us in 6 months.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
Here’s your workout plan:
Day 1 - 4 sets x 6-8 reps (heavy as possible)
DB Bench Press
Standing BB Military/Push Press
Weighted Pull Ups
Chest supported rows
Lunges
15 minutes on the bike doing high intensity intervals. Every 30 seconds, pedal as fast as possible for 30 seconds and then slow for 30 seconds. Repeat for 15 minutes, feel the burn.
Day 2 - 3 sets x 8-12 reps
Squat
Dips
Forward/Side Raises
Upright Rows
Bodyweight pull ups followed immediately by BB curls
Shrugs
Calf Raises
Day 3 -5 sets x 4-6 reps
Deadlifts
Incline DB or BB Bench
Snatches followed immediately by max sets of push ups
Leg press
T-bar rows to the chest, elbows flared
Day 4 - whatever you want to do in the weight room
It may not be the best plan, but it’s better than fucking push ups and random cardio. Do cardio 3x a week, if you want to. One long run, one day where you bust ass and go hard, one day of sports cardio (basketball, heavy bag, jump rope).
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God even his name has baller in it
It’s funny that I saw a kid today around my age doing bicep curls in the squat rack, push ups, crunches, and bb upright rows. It was all in what seem to be a circuit, and then I saw the same kid play basketball afterwards, I swear it could be baller here.
Big & Muscular > Skinny bitch with 6 pack
Being big in basketball is a good thing, you’d be dominant in rebounds, and people will be afraid of you. Its not going to go happen overnight though. forget your whole program, make lifting weights your priority because if you did any research at all youd know lifting weights expends much more total calories than cardio and muscle burns more fat. simple as that. You’re young, the rest will fall in place with even a decent diet.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
It’s funny that I saw a kid today around my age doing bicep curls in the squat rack, push ups, crunches, and bb upright rows. It was all in what seem to be a circuit, and then I saw the same kid play basketball afterwards, I swear it could be baller here.[/quote]
I think that any kid with “baller” in his screenname is doomed to have a routine composed of squat-rack curls and crunches followed by basketball.
Baller, please come back and tell us that you’ve changed your plans… Please?
There are tons of great nutrition and diet articles that can help you, along with training programs for your goals.
I know you’re young, so the flaming should be kept to a minimum if you show the ability to listen and learn. I’d love to see you learn and have great results - the info you need is right here at your fingertips…
Why make the body smaller to compliment the arms and legs? How about making the arms and legs larger to compliment the body.
Remember hoever, you are still growing. Tale your time, don’t run into GH, T or adreneline troubles. You could end up a washed up old man at 30. If you intention is to get the girls, you won’t be able to do anything with them in 15 years if you over do it now.
I like the training regiment the other guy posted, but go every 2nd or 3rd day instead of every day. Lay off the protein sups, you are still growing. Tell your friends to use Arby’s or Subway instead of the big 3. Eat the turkey -NO MAYO -
The basket ball will be the best thing for you. We don’t think it is, but the ball is heavy. Throwing up to the official height from the tre line 100 times is a heavy workout for arms. Dribbling in between is your rest period. Proof, look at the NBA players. Good arms that match the body.
Last- don’t worry about the girls right now.
- You don’t need to knochk anyone up
- The girls you are looking at right now are not worth it. The at the girls next to them, they still need a little time in the oven, but think what they will look like at 22
- Watch out for the teenage plagues (STD’s)
- Graduate, Go to College, Get a good job, Get the comensurate girls.
- Women will drive you nuts anyway, do you want to be nuts when you are 40 like me, or 22?
Take care of you for you, let life work itself out.
[quote]TDetroit wrote:
Why make the body smaller to compliment the arms and legs? How about making the arms and legs larger to compliment the body.
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I’m not sure where this is coming from, but I’m with ya in principle.
[quote]TDetroit wrote:
Remember hoever, you are still growing. Tale your time, don’t run into GH, T or adreneline troubles. You could end up a washed up old man at 30. If you intention is to get the girls, you won’t be able to do anything with them in 15 years if you over do it now.
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I’d love to know how weight training could possibly cause anything like these things.
[quote]TDetroit wrote:
<<< Lay off the protein sups, you are still growing. Tell your friends to use Arby’s or Subway instead of the big 3. Eat the turkey -NO MAYO -
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Though some fast food isn’t going to hurt him at his age there isn’t a truly substantial difference between Subway turkey subs minus the mayo (?) and “the big three”. It’s all shit, but some shit may help with gaining sometimes if it isn’t made the mainstay of ones diet.
[quote]TDetroit wrote:
Basketball >>> <<< We don’t think it is, but the ball is heavy. Throwing up to the official height from the tre line 100 times is a heavy workout for arms. Dribbling in between is your rest period. Proof, look at the NBA players. Good arms that match the body.
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If you really believe that “the ball is heavy” and NBA players who have significant arm size got it by fillin em up from downtown then you have quite a bit to learn about our beloved discipline.
A fellow Detroiter too, damn.
I just don’t understand why I should bulk up first and then cut.
As opposed to getting skinnier and then adding muscle.
Refer to my previous post, because YOU HAVE NO MUSCLE. You won’t get a six-pack if you “cut”, you’ll just look anorexic. Enough people have told you what you need to do, it’s up to you if you want to listen.
[quote]Baller1950 wrote:
I just don’t understand why I should bulk up first and then cut.
As opposed to getting skinnier and then adding muscle.
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Because it’s UNHEALTHY!
Listen. If your idea was best then we’d all be dieting down and taking drugs to look like Keith Richards BEFORE we ever touched a weight.
I actually knew someone who thought the way you do. They never gained strength or muscle.
You sound like a X Country runner instead of somebody who wants to add some meat on their bones.
[quote]Baller1950 wrote:
I just don’t understand why I should bulk up first and then cut.
As opposed to getting skinnier and then adding muscle.
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You have self image issues, I weigh more than you, and I’m an inch or two shorter than you. I’m still bulking up because I know being 126 lbs shredded, is fucking gross. It’s not healthy, it’s extremely dangerous to be that skinny. I still have a four pack, and I know that even during the summer that four pack with a decent amount muscle mass for me age/height is a lot better than 126 lbs anorexic with six pack.
P.S. if you want to look like Brad Pitt when he was in FIght Club because you think that’s the ideal body, then you should either read up or leave, because this is a BODYBUILDING website. TO answer your question why bulk up well images speak louder than words so here’s my powerful image of the day.
I’ll chime in here. I ended up losing about 140 lbs. over 2 diets, so I know what I’m talking about.
dHuge’s plan is pretty solid. Use it as a base. I would, however, keep some of the cardio and the reason is that you need to practice jacking up your metabolism so you can increase your workload. Do your jogging a few days a week but mix in sprints as part of it. Basically you should jog to warm up and sprint for a minute or so, then revert to a jog until you recover (varies) then sprint. Have a set distance and try to gradually do that in less time.
At your age you don’t need to really starve yourself – that’s for us geezers. LOL You should aim at picking up heavy stuff. You see, you have all those hormones in your system that some folks see fit to inject (don’t even think about doing that). I would say that getting your body to grow is what you want to do. If you start a good program it will do it.
Finally, the most important tip I can give you for eating is to avoid eating calorically dense empty foods (candy and such) as a habit. Realize that a lot of overeating is because people are in the habit of noshing. Get a different habit, say working out. Seriously, see when you eat and what you eat. Chances are pretty good you are in the “I’m home from school time for a snack” mode rather than listening to your body.
Working out acts like a strong appetite suppressant. You don’t want to eat right before, can’t eat during and whatever you eat right after goes straight to your muscles. WHo could ask for more?
Cheers,
jj
[quote]jj-dude wrote:
Working out acts like a strong appetite suppressant. You don’t want to eat right before, can’t eat during and whatever you eat right after goes straight to your muscles. WHo could ask for more?
Cheers,
jj[/quote]
No offense, but why are “once obese” guys jumping in this thread emphasizing how this skinny kid needs to worry about appetite suppressants and regular cardio? Why would that be his primary, secondary or tertiary concern right now…at all?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
jj-dude wrote:
Working out acts like a strong appetite suppressant. You don’t want to eat right before, can’t eat during and whatever you eat right after goes straight to your muscles. WHo could ask for more?
Cheers,
jj
No offense, but why are “once obese” guys jumping in this thread emphasizing how this skinny kid needs to worry about appetite suppressants and regular cardio? Why would that be his primary, secondary or tertiary concern right now…at all?[/quote]
Added to the fact that this kid thinks that mass making = get fat.