Pull- Ups/Over 250lbs

[quote]GluteusGigantis wrote:
The 100 leg extensions were a horrific way to end the workout…can’t wait till tomorrow to do them again (must be something very very wrong with me).[/quote]

Dude, there isn’t one huge guy on the planet who doesn’t have something wrong with them.

I also doubt most would really want to be “normal” anyway.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]GluteusGigantis wrote:
The 100 leg extensions were a horrific way to end the workout…can’t wait till tomorrow to do them again (must be something very very wrong with me).[/quote]

Dude, there isn’t one huge guy on the planet who doesn’t have something wrong with them.

I also doubt most would really want to be “normal” anyway.
[/quote]

Well, then I will push forward with my goal to develop more things wrong with me :slight_smile:

[quote]Tankman4411 wrote:
ok time to post a few more logs

shoulders and tris

just to start off i dont do any over head lifting due to my shoulder being all put back together again.

bent over reverse flys

10x10

lateral raises

5x12 with manual reps inbetween

incline bench press

5x12 a weight that is not close to failure

standing reverse flyes starting high ending low (cable)

5x12

standing reverse flyes starting low ending high (cable)

later raises (cable)

5x12

front raises

3x12

triceps

close grip bench (decline)

5x10-12

skull crushers (hammer bar)

5x12

weighted dips

5x12

overhead rope extensions (cable)

5x12

diamond push ups (feet on a bench)
1x100

dc extreme stretching[/quote]
What are manual reps? Is that doing the movement with no weight?

[quote]OatsNMilk wrote:
On a side note, the DC broomstick stretch is really aggravating my left elbow. I have been doing it religiously for the past 2 weeks three times a day to loosen up my shoulder girdle.

Before the broomstick stretch, I used to get discomfort and pain on my left elbow (the inner part) if i do any triceps extension or close grip pressing. Now it has elevated to the point where I am unable to perform any sort of barbell pressing or dumbbell alt curls.

Right now, im laying off the broomstick stretching for a while. Are there any alternatives to it that you guys use which hopefully stretches one shoulder at a time? Sorry for the hijack.[/quote]

I do it with a miniband. no stress on the elbows cause your wrists can rotate.

you got that right x all my huge buddies all have been just a little off. i think thats what makes us like the pain and discipline of this sport.

manual lateral raises are when someone holds your arms down by your side and you fight your spotters resistance up to shoulder height then your spotter pushes your arms down and you fight the resistance down. its brutal…

leg day

only managed to get quads in on this day was in a hurry

leg extenstions

5x30

back squats

5x5-6

hack squat

10x10

leg press

5x12

weighted one leg squats

6x10 these suck so damn bad

sissy squats

3x50

[quote]Tankman4411 wrote:
you got that right x all my huge buddies all have been just a little off. i think thats what makes us like the pain and discipline of this sport.

manual lateral raises are when someone holds your arms down by your side and you fight your spotters resistance up to shoulder height then your spotter pushes your arms down and you fight the resistance down. its brutal…[/quote]

Back in the day we did manual tricep ext to finish the workouts. I wish I had a workout partner now.

as to the original question, there was a T-Nation article that was recently posted related to this

"Before I started I was well aware of the potential trauma this pull-up blitzkrieg could unleash upon my elbows. Most guys stop doing high frequency pull-ups because of an elbow injury. Sometimes the problem surfaces in the shoulder. In either case, the culprit is the same.

When you pull in the vertical plane your wrists naturally want to rotate. How much they rotate depends on your skeletal structure and soft tissue mobility. Regardless, your wrists never want to be locked in place for this exercise.

This is simple to verify. Work up to a three-rep pull-up maximum from rings and watch what your wrists do from the full hang as you train max strength ? they’ll never stay fully pronated on their own.

If the wrists can’t naturally rotate, the stress goes straight to the elbow, leading to pain and inflammation. Then the shoulder will join the pain party. If you observe shoulder movement when a guy does a pull-up from a fixed bar it looks the same as when he does it from rings.

However, there are small biomechanical changes when the wrists can’t rotate. You might not be able to see a difference, but you’ll eventually feel it when an underlying dysfunction rears its ugly head as shoulder pain.

Of course, many guys do pull-ups from a fixed bar every day, or every other day, and don’t have any problems. Most often it’s because their frequency is low enough to avoid it. With high frequency training, however, you’ve got to get everything right from the start. For pull-ups, this means allowing natural wrist rotation.

Now, if for some unforeseen reason you absolutely can’t get access to rings or TRX straps, the next best option is to do the high frequency pull-ups with a neutral, fat grip. The hammer grip is easiest on the elbows and fattening the grip takes more stress off them. However, you’ll still likely run into problems, even with a fat, neutral grip, if you do enough of them.

The absolute worst culprit is the chin-up from a fixed bar. Just hang from a bar with your palms supinated and you’ll immediately feel tension in your elbows. I’ve recommended the fixed bar chin-up for years, but things change. It’s completely out of all my current training programs because it locks the wrists in the most stressful position to the elbows.

Your body is just as valuable as any million-dollar athlete’s. I won’t let any athlete do pull-ups from a fixed bar, and I wouldn’t advise you to do it, either. The risk is not worth the potential reward. Use rings for pull-ups."

holy fucking volume dude.

[quote]Tankman4411 wrote:
leg day

only managed to get quads in on this day was in a hurry

leg extenstions

5x30

back squats

5x5-6

hack squat

10x10

leg press

5x12

weighted one leg squats

6x10 these suck so damn bad

sissy squats

3x50[/quote]

Wtf is wrong with you, lol.

Tankman4411, for how long have you been training?

That volume of training is insane.

Well I started training for sports about 14 years ago. When sports were over I went into mma and got serious with lifting. Found out quick that u can’t be a bodybuilder and do mma too, atleast I couldn’t. I enjoy high volume workouts. Have done 5/3/1,dc, and a few other non volume type workouts with great results but i always seem to go back to old school volume stuff. The legs have a high volume because I’m trying to get to a goal i set for myself. The gym is how I handle the stress and anxiety of my job and life. Seems like the more stress I have the more volume I do.

[quote]Tankman4411 wrote:
Well I started training for sports about 14 years ago. When sports were over I went into mma and got serious with lifting. Found out quick that u can’t be a bodybuilder and do mma too, atleast I couldn’t. I enjoy high volume workouts. Have done 5/3/1,dc, and a few other non volume type workouts with great results but i always seem to go back to old school volume stuff. The legs have a high volume because I’m trying to get to a goal i set for myself. The gym is how I handle the stress and anxiety of my job and life. Seems like the more stress I have the more volume I do.[/quote]

Amen to that. Seems like many times when I am the most beaten up and stressed I make the most progress im the gym…even though I am not eating enough, or right, and not sleeping any, and always stressed…something about it just makes me push harder in the gym, for longer. I am doing everything wrong but still doing ok–and I think thats because its my escape. Also, times like those force me to work really damn hard or I am not going to be exhausted enough to close my eyes to sleep. Cant turn my brain off, so I force it off through exhuastion from the gym. Makes you really work damn hard.

[quote]Tankman4411 wrote:
Well I started training for sports about 14 years ago. When sports were over I went into mma and got serious with lifting. Found out quick that u can’t be a bodybuilder and do mma too, atleast I couldn’t. I enjoy high volume workouts. Have done 5/3/1,dc, and a few other non volume type workouts with great results but i always seem to go back to old school volume stuff. The legs have a high volume because I’m trying to get to a goal i set for myself. The gym is how I handle the stress and anxiety of my job and life. Seems like the more stress I have the more volume I do.[/quote]

Ok, thanks for the answer. You’re obviously quite experienced and everything you’re doing is certainly working. What a beast!

[quote]Tankman4411 wrote:
leg day

only managed to get quads in on this day was in a hurry

leg extenstions

5x30

back squats

5x5-6

hack squat

10x10

leg press

5x12

weighted one leg squats

6x10 these suck so damn bad

sissy squats

3x50[/quote]

Full Respect. This seems awful lot of volume. Esp. with reps so high. Beast!

[quote]Tankman4411 wrote:
Well I started training for sports about 14 years ago. When sports were over I went into mma and got serious with lifting. Found out quick that u can’t be a bodybuilder and do mma too, atleast I couldn’t. I enjoy high volume workouts. Have done 5/3/1,dc, and a few other non volume type workouts with great results but i always seem to go back to old school volume stuff. The legs have a high volume because I’m trying to get to a goal i set for myself. The gym is how I handle the stress and anxiety of my job and life. Seems like the more stress I have the more volume I do.[/quote]

I’m the same. I have heard, “you must get really stressed” as a response. Maybe you are even “more stressed”. LOL

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Tankman4411 wrote:
Well I started training for sports about 14 years ago. When sports were over I went into mma and got serious with lifting. Found out quick that u can’t be a bodybuilder and do mma too, atleast I couldn’t. I enjoy high volume workouts. Have done 5/3/1,dc, and a few other non volume type workouts with great results but i always seem to go back to old school volume stuff. The legs have a high volume because I’m trying to get to a goal i set for myself. The gym is how I handle the stress and anxiety of my job and life. Seems like the more stress I have the more volume I do.[/quote]

I’m the same. I have heard, “you must get really stressed” as a response. Maybe you are even “more stressed”. LOL[/quote]

“in the pain I found myself” club, LOL,

me too the same,even after 14hours of work,i open the warehouse,climb the stairs and push as hard I can do…today waked up at 4,30 AM ,just a break for lunch,after work and …this evening is benching day/bis/neck LOL

PS; tankaman big volume,rfull respect

So uh, Me and Dark Ninja and OnMyOwn want to post your pictures in our eyecandy thread in SAMA.

What I’m saying Tank is we are GOING to post your pictures in our thread “What Fit Ladies Prefer” unless you explicitely tell us not to.

dontsaynodontsaynodontsaynodontsayno

Aragorn you said that shit perfect man, I think u might be my brother from another mother or something.

In the pain I found myself … Fuck yeah that is a badass quote. I defiantly belong to that club.

I don’t mind you using my pics as long as it’s in a positive manner :slight_smile:

Favourite physique so far… just a tanky dude with still enough definition to be noticed, in my opinion the cut-as-fuck body looks yuck. but u might be going for that look i wouldnt know, but im definitely mirin’ your physique at the present. (inb4 “omg u quoted zyzz u fucking homo”)

Ace.