Pu**y Whipped Guys

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

I can understand where their coming from. Its happened to me once or twice where I thought someone was a friend but then something happened where I realised they were only ‘‘friends’’ funnily enough they were the same people who left their friends as soon as they had a girlfriend.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Obviously.

[quote]Swolegasm wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

I can understand where their coming from. Its happened to me once or twice where I thought someone was a friend but then something happened where I realised they were only ‘‘friends’’ funnily enough they were the same people who left their friends as soon as they had a girlfriend.
[/quote]

Thats what im saying.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Very true

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Can your partner be that “friend” that is there when you lie in the mud?

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Can your partner be that “friend” that is there when you lie in the mud?[/quote]

Lie there long enough and it is unlikely that she will still be there.

Much the same way she would repair a wahing machine if it could be done with a reasonable effort and get a new one if that is not possible.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Can your partner be that “friend” that is there when you lie in the mud?[/quote]

Lie there long enough and it is unlikely that she will still be there.

Much the same way she would repair a wahing machine if it could be done with a reasonable effort and get a new one if that is not possible. [/quote]

I really feel sorry for you.

Carry on.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Can your partner be that “friend” that is there when you lie in the mud?[/quote]

Lie there long enough and it is unlikely that she will still be there.

Much the same way she would repair a wahing machine if it could be done with a reasonable effort and get a new one if that is not possible. [/quote]
Please elaborate.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I really feel sorry for you.

Carry on. [/quote]

I oscillate between feeling sorry for and being envious.

On the one hand you might learn the hard way, on the other, you might live out the rest of your live in blissfull ignorance.

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Can your partner be that “friend” that is there when you lie in the mud?[/quote]

Lie there long enough and it is unlikely that she will still be there.

Much the same way she would repair a wahing machine if it could be done with a reasonable effort and get a new one if that is not possible. [/quote]
Please elaborate.[/quote]

Did I not post this?

I started out as both a sexual and social human being. In fact, I started out as a golden child, highly intelligent, attractive, athletic and ambitious as a career politician at the tender age of 18.

Then I got sick, or rather was all along and gained massive amounts of weight, was depressed and whatnot.

Misteriously all women in my life disappeared.

Then I worked like a mule, with some success, without indentifying the underlying reasons, and I was a social and sexual being again.

Since you cannot keep that up indefinitely, I slipped down the slope again, all women dissapeared again.

That happened a third time, but this time I no longer trusted in any doctors (socialized medicine, yeah baby) but sat down with an almanach worth of test results and developed my own theories.

Then I ordered some tests which I paid for myself (socialized medicine, yeah baby) and then I had it, it being a case of sleep apnoea so severe that I should have been dead and I would have been had I not had the constitution of a mule.

Plus, gluten is not my friend and actually caused this by swelling my nose shut, thereby forcing me to breathe through my mouth, thereby changing my airways permanently which makes me the sleep apnoea king of middle Europe.

Having learned this I was able to deal with this and now I am a social and sexual being again, yay.

At least for women because I have largely the same male friends I had at the age of 20.

So, this did not happen to me once, but over and over again, as long as you are “winning” you have more than enough women in your life and if you hit the ground hard enough so that you do not get up that easily they are gone.

Women, are spoils of war.

Plus, and this is somewhat unrelated, not only was I suddenly a sexual being again, oh no, this is when I had learned at least rudimentary “game” and suddenly I was the man with the golden cock.

So, I did not learn theoretically how conditional womens feelings are, I first experienced it and then I found out why.

Then I applied this knowledge in practice and… magic.

This whole “game does not work”, “women are not like that”, “not ALL women are like that”, “you are gay”, “you only date idiots” is such a waste of my time because no man who has consciously experienced the difference will ever plug back into the matrix again.

You cannot unswallow the red pill.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I really feel sorry for you.

Carry on. [/quote]

I oscillate between feeling sorry for and being envious.

On the one hand you might learn the hard way, on the other, you might live out the rest of your live in blissfull ignorance. [/quote]

One how do you know that I have not already learned the “hard way” and two I am far from ignorant, I just have a different approach that obviously works.

I’m not sold on the idea that women won’t be there for you.

Now, if you stick with this friends/lovers dichotomy, of course she’s not your friend, of course she won’t be there. But I don’t think real life is quite so straightforward; I will say it seems to work that way in the beginning, but as things progress in seriousness, she can be both a friend and a lover.

Probably the biggest lesson I learned was that women are just… different. I naturally show her I care in a way that makes sense to me, but she doesn’t get it or see it. She naturally shows me she cares in a way that makes sense to her, but I don’t see it either. (Obviously this is different depending on the girl, but I will say it’s generally been true.)

Will a girl be there in the same way a guy will? Probably not, but because she’s not a guy… not because she’s not there for you. At least that’s been my experience. She’s there, she just shows it differently.

That being said, I will agree that I’ve found a woman’s sexual attraction to be very very conditional. But whether she leaves you or not seems to come down to how deep/strong your friendship is more than anything.

Just my experience. Not saying it matches up with anyone else’s.

[quote]LoRez wrote:
I’m not sold on the idea that women won’t be there for you.

Now, if you stick with this friends/lovers dichotomy, of course she’s not your friend, of course she won’t be there. But I don’t think real life is quite so straightforward; I will say it seems to work that way in the beginning, but as things progress in seriousness, she can be both a friend and a lover.

Probably the biggest lesson I learned was that women are just… different. I naturally show her I care in a way that makes sense to me, but she doesn’t get it or see it. She naturally shows me she cares in a way that makes sense to her, but I don’t see it either. (Obviously this is different depending on the girl, but I will say it’s generally been true.)

Will a girl be there in the same way a guy will? Probably not, but because she’s not a guy… not because she’s not there for you. At least that’s been my experience. She’s there, she just shows it differently.

That being said, I will agree that I’ve found a woman’s sexual attraction to be very very conditional. But whether she leaves you or not seems to come down to how deep/strong your friendship is more than anything.

Just my experience. Not saying it matches up with anyone else’s.[/quote]

Pretty much matches my experience. If I wanted to be with a man then I would be ghey. I enjoy the differences and enjoy learning what makes it different. Keeps things from being boring.

My wife has been there for me in some very rough times, and I have really only one friend in this world who has been with me for ever. However he was limited in being there for me in time of need, cause he has his own family.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Can your partner be that “friend” that is there when you lie in the mud?[/quote]

Lie there long enough and it is unlikely that she will still be there.

Much the same way she would repair a wahing machine if it could be done with a reasonable effort and get a new one if that is not possible. [/quote]
Please elaborate.[/quote]

Did I not post this?

I started out as both a sexual and social human being. In fact, I started out as a golden child, highly intelligent, attractive, athletic and ambitious as a career politician at the tender age of 18.

Then I got sick, or rather was all along and gained massive amounts of weight, was depressed and whatnot.

Misteriously all women in my life disappeared.

Then I worked like a mule, with some success, without indentifying the underlying reasons, and I was a social and sexual being again.

Since you cannot keep that up indefinitely, I slipped down the slope again, all women dissapeared again.

That happened a third time, but this time I no longer trusted in any doctors (socialized medicine, yeah baby) but sat down with an almanach worth of test results and developed my own theories.

Then I ordered some tests which I paid for myself (socialized medicine, yeah baby) and then I had it, it being a case of sleep apnoea so severe that I should have been dead and I would have been had I not had the constitution of a mule.

Plus, gluten is not my friend and actually caused this by swelling my nose shut, thereby forcing me to breathe through my mouth, thereby changing my airways permanently which makes me the sleep apnoea king of middle Europe.

Having learned this I was able to deal with this and now I am a social and sexual being again, yay.

At least for women because I have largely the same male friends I had at the age of 20.

So, this did not happen to me once, but over and over again, as long as you are “winning” you have more than enough women in your life and if you hit the ground hard enough so that you do not get up that easily they are gone.

Women, are spoils of war.

Plus, and this is somewhat unrelated, not only was I suddenly a sexual being again, oh no, this is when I had learned at least rudimentary “game” and suddenly I was the man with the golden cock.

So, I did not learn theoretically how conditional womens feelings are, I first experienced it and then I found out why.

Then I applied this knowledge in practice and… magic.

This whole “game does not work”, “women are not like that”, “not ALL women are like that”, “you are gay”, “you only date idiots” is such a waste of my time because no man who has consciously experienced the difference will ever plug back into the matrix again.

You cannot unswallow the red pill. [/quote]

That’s a crazy story man! What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger? right?

I agree there are a lot of money grubbing vapid women out there. However, I wouldn’t classify them all that way. Quality women are hard to find. Quantity is easy as long as you’re winning.

I think most of the hate you receive is from probably people who are largely clueless about game and women.

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Can your partner be that “friend” that is there when you lie in the mud?[/quote]

Lie there long enough and it is unlikely that she will still be there.

Much the same way she would repair a wahing machine if it could be done with a reasonable effort and get a new one if that is not possible. [/quote]
Please elaborate.[/quote]

Did I not post this?

I started out as both a sexual and social human being. In fact, I started out as a golden child, highly intelligent, attractive, athletic and ambitious as a career politician at the tender age of 18.

Then I got sick, or rather was all along and gained massive amounts of weight, was depressed and whatnot.

Misteriously all women in my life disappeared.

Then I worked like a mule, with some success, without indentifying the underlying reasons, and I was a social and sexual being again.

Since you cannot keep that up indefinitely, I slipped down the slope again, all women dissapeared again.

That happened a third time, but this time I no longer trusted in any doctors (socialized medicine, yeah baby) but sat down with an almanach worth of test results and developed my own theories.

Then I ordered some tests which I paid for myself (socialized medicine, yeah baby) and then I had it, it being a case of sleep apnoea so severe that I should have been dead and I would have been had I not had the constitution of a mule.

Plus, gluten is not my friend and actually caused this by swelling my nose shut, thereby forcing me to breathe through my mouth, thereby changing my airways permanently which makes me the sleep apnoea king of middle Europe.

Having learned this I was able to deal with this and now I am a social and sexual being again, yay.

At least for women because I have largely the same male friends I had at the age of 20.

So, this did not happen to me once, but over and over again, as long as you are “winning” you have more than enough women in your life and if you hit the ground hard enough so that you do not get up that easily they are gone.

Women, are spoils of war.

Plus, and this is somewhat unrelated, not only was I suddenly a sexual being again, oh no, this is when I had learned at least rudimentary “game” and suddenly I was the man with the golden cock.

So, I did not learn theoretically how conditional womens feelings are, I first experienced it and then I found out why.

Then I applied this knowledge in practice and… magic.

This whole “game does not work”, “women are not like that”, “not ALL women are like that”, “you are gay”, “you only date idiots” is such a waste of my time because no man who has consciously experienced the difference will ever plug back into the matrix again.

You cannot unswallow the red pill. [/quote]

That’s a crazy story man! What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger? right?

I agree there are a lot of money grubbing vapid women out there. However, I wouldn’t classify them all that way. Quality women are hard to find. Quantity is easy as long as you’re winning.

I think most of the hate you receive is from probably people who are largely clueless about game and women.
[/quote]

Or actual grown up men who do not need game and have found quality women.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bond james bond wrote:
You find out who you’re friends really are when you need help getting your car out of a snow bank at 2:00 am on a work night.
[/quote]

Totally agree here. You can tell the guys who haven’t experienced that “life or death” best friend test because they claim they have like 20 real friends.

There are friends…and there are associates. Most of the people you ever hang with will be the latter.[/quote]

This is why the question of whether or not a straight guy can have platonic female friends always gets answered incorrectly. People use the word “friend” way too liberally. I blame facebook.[/quote]

Since it bothers you…why not call them allies?

It shouldnt matter what you call them. Dont you know the depth of your relationship without needing a label?[/quote]

Actually no, you dont, unless they stood by you when shit got real.

You count your friends when you lie in the mud. [/quote]

Can your partner be that “friend” that is there when you lie in the mud?[/quote]

Lie there long enough and it is unlikely that she will still be there.

Much the same way she would repair a wahing machine if it could be done with a reasonable effort and get a new one if that is not possible. [/quote]
Please elaborate.[/quote]

Did I not post this?

I started out as both a sexual and social human being. In fact, I started out as a golden child, highly intelligent, attractive, athletic and ambitious as a career politician at the tender age of 18.

Then I got sick, or rather was all along and gained massive amounts of weight, was depressed and whatnot.

Misteriously all women in my life disappeared.

Then I worked like a mule, with some success, without indentifying the underlying reasons, and I was a social and sexual being again.

Since you cannot keep that up indefinitely, I slipped down the slope again, all women dissapeared again.

That happened a third time, but this time I no longer trusted in any doctors (socialized medicine, yeah baby) but sat down with an almanach worth of test results and developed my own theories.

Then I ordered some tests which I paid for myself (socialized medicine, yeah baby) and then I had it, it being a case of sleep apnoea so severe that I should have been dead and I would have been had I not had the constitution of a mule.

Plus, gluten is not my friend and actually caused this by swelling my nose shut, thereby forcing me to breathe through my mouth, thereby changing my airways permanently which makes me the sleep apnoea king of middle Europe.

Having learned this I was able to deal with this and now I am a social and sexual being again, yay.

At least for women because I have largely the same male friends I had at the age of 20.

So, this did not happen to me once, but over and over again, as long as you are “winning” you have more than enough women in your life and if you hit the ground hard enough so that you do not get up that easily they are gone.

Women, are spoils of war.

Plus, and this is somewhat unrelated, not only was I suddenly a sexual being again, oh no, this is when I had learned at least rudimentary “game” and suddenly I was the man with the golden cock.

So, I did not learn theoretically how conditional womens feelings are, I first experienced it and then I found out why.

Then I applied this knowledge in practice and… magic.

This whole “game does not work”, “women are not like that”, “not ALL women are like that”, “you are gay”, “you only date idiots” is such a waste of my time because no man who has consciously experienced the difference will ever plug back into the matrix again.

You cannot unswallow the red pill. [/quote]

That’s a crazy story man! What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger? right?

I agree there are a lot of money grubbing vapid women out there. However, I wouldn’t classify them all that way. Quality women are hard to find. Quantity is easy as long as you’re winning.

I think most of the hate you receive is from probably people who are largely clueless about game and women.
[/quote]

Or actual grown up men who do not need game and have found quality women. [/quote]

I didn’t read that whole game with women thread. So I’m unsure the context of your response.

However, I recall a few of your past statements are spot on when it comes to women and finding good ones. Relationships take work.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Or actual grown up men who do not need game and have found quality women. [/quote]

There is no such thing.

There are only men who got on the right track early and wonder what all the fuzz is all about.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Or actual grown up men who do not need game and have found quality women. [/quote]

There is no such thing.

There are only men who got on the right track early and wonder what all the fuzz is all about. [/quote]
Or men smart enough, pretty enough gosh darn it good enough to get any and all women.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Or actual grown up men who do not need game and have found quality women. [/quote]

There is no such thing.

There are only men who got on the right track early and wonder what all the fuzz is all about. [/quote]
Or men smart enough, pretty enough gosh darn it good enough to get any and all women. [/quote]

Isn’t that having game?

[quote]BUDs wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Or actual grown up men who do not need game and have found quality women. [/quote]

There is no such thing.

There are only men who got on the right track early and wonder what all the fuzz is all about. [/quote]
Or men smart enough, pretty enough gosh darn it good enough to get any and all women. [/quote]

Isn’t that having game? [/quote]

Sigh it was a joke, thus the Stuart Smiley picture.