Prof X: What Injuries Have You Sustained and Gotten Past?

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[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
Also, going “heavy as fuck” on the HS machine is hardly the same as going “heavy as fuck” on the bench press in terms of blowing something out. [/quote]

You have issues. You think I have been using an HS machine since day one? I was benching 405lbs for barbell bench before I moved to using DUMBBELLS as my main chest exercise. I use an HS machine now because there is no one who can spot me well with the weight I use. Most gyms are now filled with 150lbs people who seem to think they are stronger or work harder simply because they are using a bench press.

You have somehow taken this as meaning I don’t train with enough intensity to promote an injury?

Mind you, this is after informing you of the rather high incidence of injury in bodybuilding which would indicate otherwise.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Keep believing the big guys you see are weak as a result of all of that muscle mass.

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[quote]Dabba wrote:
IgneLudo wrote:
So you don’t train softer? How would you describe the difference?

Do people seriously think that bodybuilders get huge by training “soft”?[/quote]

These people are often least likely to have a picture posted anywhere or even have any stats in their profile filled out…but they all think they train “harder”.

If someone has built more than 60-80lbs of lean body mass over the course of a decade (after the age of 18) and they haven’t torn or ripped something, it is a safe bet that fucker has a clue what he is doing…not that his training is so easy and injury repellent.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a dumbass.

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You are as dense as a neutron star.

I don’t think you’ve been using a HS machine since day one. I know you have not. Are you denying that you use one now?

I specifically said that softness does not refer to a lack of intensity.

I never said you were weak either. Since when is moving 500 lbs on a HS machine weak? All that I said was that moving 500 lbs on a HS machine is less likely to blow out your shoulder than moving 500 lbs on a barbell while lying on a bench.

*EDIT

I also don’t doubt that you know what you are doing. I actually think you know quite well how to do what you do. All I’m saying is that GIVEN the high rates of injury in powerlifting AND bodybuilding, that you have pointed out yourself, you seem pretty lucky.

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[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
You are as dense as a neutron star.

I don’t think you’ve been using a HS machine since day one. I know you have not. Are you denying that you use one now?

I specifically said that softness does not refer to a lack of intensity.

I never said you were weak either. Since when is moving 500 lbs on a HS machine weak? All that I said was that moving 500 lbs on a HS machine is less likely to blow out your shoulder than moving 500 lbs on a barbell while lying on a bench.

*EDIT

I also don’t doubt that you know what you are doing. I actually think you know quite well how to do what you do. All I’m saying is that GIVEN the high rates of injury in powerlifting AND bodybuilding, that you have pointed out yourself, you seem pretty lucky. [/quote]

You are also acting like using an HS machine means I am not doing other exercises for other body parts that could cause an injury if done wrong. Your shoulders are possibly your weakest joint which is why there are so many shoulder injuries. Do you think I am avoiding overhead presses? Lateral raises?

The goal, no matter what you do, is to prevent an injury. That doesn’t mean I started using an HS machine as “injury prevention”.

You jumped on ONE fucking exercise as if squats don’t lead to injury…as if T-Bar Rows couldn’t cause an injury…as if every thing you do couldn’t cause an injury when you are truly lifting heavy.

You are getting jumped on because that is an insult. I know how I train so chalking up a lack of injuries to “training softer” is one truly lame view of what is going on.

It also makes you appear to be the “dense” one.

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So it seems to me that, according to you, “knowing how to train” is all you need to do in order to avoid injury right? You could be injury-free if you knew what Professor X knew and just avoided his one misbegotten ego-curl back in his youth.

Are you also saying that T-Bar rows are just as dangerous as bench press? You can obviously fuck yourself up doing any exercise if you do it with shoddy form or a dangerous amount of weight for your strength level. But you can’t deny that some exercises are inherently more dangerous than others when “going heavy”. I didn’t choose the word “softer” to begin with. But I take it to mean training in a way that minimizes injury, primarily through exercise selection and rep range.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

You are also acting like using an HS machine means I am not doing other exercises for other body parts that could cause an injury if done wrong. Your shoulders are possibly your weakest joint which is why there are so many shoulder injuries. Do you think I am avoiding overhead presses? Lateral raises?

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I’m not even talking about doing the exercise “wrongly”. I’m talking about doing a technically proficient deadlift or bench press or overhead press that results in injury.

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[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
So it seems to me that, according to you, “knowing how to train” is all you need to do in order to avoid injury right? You could be injury-free if you knew what Professor X knew and just avoided his one misbegotten ego-curl back in his youth.
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Thank you for proving yourself an idiot.

Let me guess, there is a reason those stats in your profile aren’t filled out?

How much are you benching these days?

Pictures?

No, we won’t ever be seeing any of those, will we?

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Are you telling me that if I put up stats and pictures I will get more respect?

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I find it curious that you ask for the bench number too. Don’t care what I squat, deadlift, or clean?

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sigh

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[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
I find it curious that you ask for the bench number too. Don’t care what I squat, deadlift, or clean?[/quote]

What exactly is the point of all this ?

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I think what prof X is trying to say is that he likes to train heavy, but hes a weak bodybuilder so for him heavy is like 2 plates per side on his cheater machines. And that he avoided injury because he is the most knowledgable person on the planet.

Listen here X, bulking is in the past, your never gonna get anywhere with your HS cheater leverage bullshit machines. Your gonna be small and weak forever. You dont even have real world strength for fucks sake. I bet you couldnt carry a old woman up a few steps!

Since were all here having important discussions…

What kinda dumbers were you putting up in your 2 year powerlifting days X? PM me if you dont want to post it here.

If I remember right, because I keep a keep a note book on everything you say. You had 405 for reps bench, 365 for reps incline but with a spot, and 495 for reps squat, and you hurt your arm curling 100lb dumbells without warming up. You also like movies, video games, and long walks on the beach with with hot coco and good friends.

…I wasnt kidding about keepen a notebook about you… I call it, the X file. And while Im reading it I will only answer to the name Mulder and I call everyone Scully.

Holy shit Im bored, anyway, what numbers were you putting up?

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Ha ha ha ha…

[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
Are you denying the explanatory power of my explanation?
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Funny stuff Newb.

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[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
I think what prof X is trying to say is that he likes to train heavy, but hes a weak bodybuilder so for him heavy is like 2 plates per side on his cheater machines. And that he avoided injury because he is the most knowledgable person on the planet.

Listen here X, bulking is in the past, your never gonna get anywhere with your HS cheater leverage bullshit machines. Your gonna be small and weak forever. You dont even have real world strength for fucks sake. I bet you couldnt carry a old woman up a few steps!

Since were all here having important discussions…

What kinda dumbers were you putting up in your 2 year powerlifting days X? PM me if you dont want to post it here.

If I remember right, because I keep a keep a note book on everything you say. You had 405 for reps bench, 365 for reps incline but with a spot, and 495 for reps squat, and you hurt your arm curling 100lb dumbells without warming up. You also like movies, video games, and long walks on the beach with with hot coco and good friends.

…I wasnt kidding about keepen a notebook about you… I call it, the X file. And while Im reading it I will only answer to the name Mulder and I call everyone Scully.

Holy shit Im bored, anyway, what numbers were you putting up?

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Numbers? I’m a bodybuilder. We don’t actually lift weights heavier than 20lbs. In fact, if a dumbbell we are using has a number on it greater than “20lbs”, it likely came from Bob’s Bodybuilding Fake Plate Warehouse.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
I think what prof X is trying to say is that he likes to train heavy, but hes a weak bodybuilder so for him heavy is like 2 plates per side on his cheater machines. And that he avoided injury because he is the most knowledgable person on the planet.

Listen here X, bulking is in the past, your never gonna get anywhere with your HS cheater leverage bullshit machines. Your gonna be small and weak forever. You dont even have real world strength for fucks sake. I bet you couldnt carry a old woman up a few steps!

Since were all here having important discussions…

What kinda dumbers were you putting up in your 2 year powerlifting days X? PM me if you dont want to post it here.

If I remember right, because I keep a keep a note book on everything you say. You had 405 for reps bench, 365 for reps incline but with a spot, and 495 for reps squat, and you hurt your arm curling 100lb dumbells without warming up. You also like movies, video games, and long walks on the beach with with hot coco and good friends.

…I wasnt kidding about keepen a notebook about you… I call it, the X file. And while Im reading it I will only answer to the name Mulder and I call everyone Scully.

Holy shit Im bored, anyway, what numbers were you putting up?

Numbers? I’m a bodybuilder. We don’t actually lift weights heavier than 20lbs. In fact, if a dumbbell we are using has a number on it greater than “20lbs”, it likely came from Bob’s Bodybuilding Fake Plate Warehouse.[/quote]

Well, consider how many of them ol’ fake plates ronnie loads on the bar for squats.

Even though they’re all plastic, the sheer amount of plastic weights and the aluminium bar together should come to around 25 pounds.

So he’s basically doing slightly above bodyweight squats, which,
according to people in the know, he shouldn’t be able to do due to all that nonfunctional muscle.

This greatly confuses me. Perhaps he’s stronger than people give him credit for?
Utterly unthinkable.

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[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
Are you telling me that if I put up stats and pictures I will get more respect?[/quote]

If you put up decent stats and pictures you will get more respect.

I DID STATE that:
Your previous 8(x) weeks of training is also a precaution you take in avoiding injuries. In your case you said you suspected it came from a muscle imbalance which looks like you trained incorrectly for the max you were going to attempt. SO YOU DID NOT TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION. You also asked if you should’ve used a belt. On a MAX lift that you’ve never performed before, WHY NOT?

I DID NOT STATE:
Injuries are unavoidable. I don’t claim to know everything, I don’t know everything you did leading up to your injuries, but there is definitely a way to minimize them. It looks like your attitude about injuries, combined with your reading comprehension, know it all mentality and nitpicking is going to lead you to alot more.

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I was doing the westside program so I was attempting maxes in different lifts every week. I don’t understand what your talk of 8(x) previous weeks of training is about. I don’t own a belt but I can think of a few reasons not to use one; if a belt is significantly safer than maybe I should buy one.

I don’t really see why you are attacking my reading comprehension. Despite X’s claims that my posts make no sense, everything I’ve asked or said can be inferred from his hostile attitude. Apparently he is miffed that I suggested luck might be a factor in his good health because he is responsible for it entirely. My bad.

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[quote]IgneLudo wrote:
Apparently he is miffed that I suggested luck might be a factor in his good health because he is responsible for it entirely. My bad. [/quote]

Dude, it would be stupid to assume that someone with a PHD in medicine and many years of training experience would have avoided injuries by luck.

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I didn’t say it was entirely by luck. You act as if the pro bodybuilders are too stupid to avoid injury themselves.