Pre-Contest Cycle

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
Remind me how long you have.

It’s not ideal, certainly, but you look a lot better than you did in your last pics. You’ve obviously been taking this seriously the last couple of weeks. It’s also a testament to how much can be done in a short period of time.

I think your entire back side is too soft, you look much better from the front. Also, I assume you are going to paint your tan on, right? :wink:

One more thing, your arms are WAY too high for your front relaxed. Use the “rule of thumb.” You should be able to touch your waist at all times with either thumb during your relaxed position.

I am curious to see what the water depletion and diuretics can do for you, and how much plain old water can kill definition. I know sometimes I am harsh with you but I really do wish you the best at your show, Dave. Good luck and keep us updated.[/quote]

The show is may 24 ( 10 days out). I still have a little time to work with and combined with the lasix i think i will be ok. i just have to not let up with the cardio and i can do some damage in 7 days time. your criticism fuels the fire lol

[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Looking much better than the last pics.

I hope you have spent a lot of time talking to people about how to achieve the right colour. Most people by now would of spent the last month in tanning beds and likely had a coat of mystic tan on or something of that nature by 1 week out.

Good luck with your show.[/quote]

thanks a lot lilguy believe it or not i have been tanning about EOD/E3D for 2 months, but im a red head and all that does is make me redder. Thurs and fri i will put on pro tan coats and then finally a mystic on Friday as well. Saturday i will get up and put on a final touch up coat of protan.

If at that time i feel the need to be darker, i have some dream tan that i would prefer to never have to use again.

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[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
Cortes wrote:
Remind me how long you have.

It’s not ideal, certainly, but you look a lot better than you did in your last pics. You’ve obviously been taking this seriously the last couple of weeks. It’s also a testament to how much can be done in a short period of time.

I think your entire back side is too soft, you look much better from the front. Also, I assume you are going to paint your tan on, right? :wink:

One more thing, your arms are WAY too high for your front relaxed. Use the “rule of thumb.” You should be able to touch your waist at all times with either thumb during your relaxed position.

I am curious to see what the water depletion and diuretics can do for you, and how much plain old water can kill definition. I know sometimes I am harsh with you but I really do wish you the best at your show, Dave. Good luck and keep us updated.

The show is may 24 ( 10 days out). I still have a little time to work with and combined with the lasix i think i will be ok. i just have to not let up with the cardio and i can do some damage in 7 days time. your criticism fuels the fire lol

LillGuy001 wrote:
Looking much better than the last pics.

I hope you have spent a lot of time talking to people about how to achieve the right colour. Most people by now would of spent the last month in tanning beds and likely had a coat of mystic tan on or something of that nature by 1 week out.

Good luck with your show.

thanks a lot lilguy believe it or not i have been tanning about EOD/E3D for 2 months, but im a red head and all that does is make me redder. Thurs and fri i will put on pro tan coats and then finally a mystic on Friday as well. Saturday i will get up and put on a final touch up coat of protan.

If at that time i feel the need to be darker, i have some dream tan that i would prefer to never have to use again.

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Be careful tanning in a bed. If you get dry skin or peel the applied tan will look like crap.

My personal favorite is JAN TANA. They sell the ph scrub to get your skin prepped for the paint. The color is aweful orange in sunlight but under the stage lights it looks perfect. The oil they give is great too, my fav that I used.

I wasn’t the biggest fan of Pro Tan. Most people I know that use it start applying it 2-3 days out and barely shower to get it to look good. I don’t like to smell so the morning airbrush of JAN TANA or night before application with morning touch up seemed fine.

You are definitely looking better keep up the work.

On your side chest make sure to have your arm that runs across your body come closer to your body. This will make your chest look bigger than it is, if there is a gap there it will appear smaller. The judges notice that kind of stuff.

Cortes criticism was about right too…

Good luck man, almost there, bet your dreaming of a big mac about now! lol

Gerdy

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Good luck Dave, i am actually a bit surprised - you are uite a bit smaller under that bulk than i expected!!

Looking much better though, but i am concerned your dieting is taking off too much muscle. What compounds are you on right now?

Joe

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[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
Good luck Dave, i am actually a bit surprised - you are uite a bit smaller under that bulk than i expected!!

Looking much better though, but i am concerned your dieting is taking off too much muscle. What compounds are you on right now?

Joe[/quote]

lol See how full u look after carb depleting! i am really seeming to get flatter and flatter everyday, especially my back. The same thing happend last year and i puffed back up after i carb loaded and thought i looked a lot fuller then 3-4 days out. i am still on the test, winny, proviron, and tapering down my clen.

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oh i know! i have been there before, it is depressing as fuck!

Well thats the point isnt it? Of carb and water manipulation, anyway i hope it goes well for you.

When is your show, when are you dropping the test, or are you going to run the test right up and rely on the lasix to get you dry?

Have you done this successfully before? Do you know if the Lasix will drop that water in the time you allow?

Why have you decided to go with Cyp and Lasix rather than prop or halo (halo is PERFECT) or something?

Sorry for all the questions, i not having a dig, i am intrigued to your thought process is all… Sorry if you have answered these exact questions!

Joe

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[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
oh i know! i have been there before, it is depressing as fuck!

Well thats the point isnt it? Of carb and water manipulation, anyway i hope it goes well for you.

When is your show, when are you dropping the test, or are you going to run the test right up and rely on the lasix to get you dry?

Have you done this successfully before? Do you know if the Lasix will drop that water in the time you allow?

Why have you decided to go with Cyp and Lasix rather than prop or halo (halo is PERFECT) or something?

Sorry for all the questions, i not having a dig, i am intrigued to your thought process is all… Sorry if you have answered these exact questions!

Joe[/quote]

i was just joking, even though i know its the diet i hate feeling small, even if its only for a few days lol. The show is may 24 and i am using the test up through the week after the show so i can get some good refeeding. I will probably go with prop next time cause i dont have much inject pain anymore. I was about to buy some halo but i decided to go with the proviron instead, i might try it next time i cut. what was your experience with halo like?

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I know multiple people that swear by halo leading into a show.

If you have more cyp I would suggest that you go more than one week after the show. I have never dieted down for a show, but from my understanding thats one of the best times to pack on some quality muscle.

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[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
Joe Joseph wrote:
oh i know! i have been there before, it is depressing as fuck!

Well thats the point isnt it? Of carb and water manipulation, anyway i hope it goes well for you.

When is your show, when are you dropping the test, or are you going to run the test right up and rely on the lasix to get you dry?

Have you done this successfully before? Do you know if the Lasix will drop that water in the time you allow?

Why have you decided to go with Cyp and Lasix rather than prop or halo (halo is PERFECT) or something?

Sorry for all the questions, i not having a dig, i am intrigued to your thought process is all… Sorry if you have answered these exact questions!

Joe

i was just joking, even though i know its the diet i hate feeling small, even if its only for a few days lol. The show is may 24 and i am using the test up through the week after the show so i can get some good refeeding. I will probably go with prop next time cause i dont have much inject pain anymore. I was about to buy some halo but i decided to go with the proviron instead, i might try it next time i cut. what was your experience with halo like?

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Jesus, if i took halotestin i would take 10mg in the morning and be sentanced for life in the afternoon. I cannot risk myself on something like that, truthfully, i would love to take it, especially for a contest, i know it is a perfect contest drug… but i wouldnt be able to control the aggression!

I am dying for one of you lot to give it a whirl i believe at just 20mg a day it is decent for competitive type gains, dryness, vascularity, hardness, strength like a mo-fo, aggression on the stage… I may be tempted… just for a week or so upto the event … id have to try it to see if i am stable.

I think sometjhing like prop, mast and halo or prop, halo and bold would be great…

Hold on!!

Testosterone Propionate 75mgED
Halotestin 10-20mgED
Masteron 75mg4xpw
Boldenone 300mg/pw
Trenbolone Acetate 50mgED

What about that as a cutting stack!!! Fantasy obviously, but is it ok to the vets or do you think it is shit? I gonna start a new thread with this i think…!

lol

Joe

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[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
I know multiple people that swear by halo leading into a show.

If you have more cyp I would suggest that you go more than one week after the show. I have never dieted down for a show, but from my understanding thats one of the best times to pack on some quality muscle.[/quote]

ya i dont have the extra gear but i figure that it will still be in my system for about 2 weeks in my past experience.

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[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
Dave1188 wrote:
Joe Joseph wrote:
oh i know! i have been there before, it is depressing as fuck!

Well thats the point isnt it? Of carb and water manipulation, anyway i hope it goes well for you.

When is your show, when are you dropping the test, or are you going to run the test right up and rely on the lasix to get you dry?

Have you done this successfully before? Do you know if the Lasix will drop that water in the time you allow?

Why have you decided to go with Cyp and Lasix rather than prop or halo (halo is PERFECT) or something?

Sorry for all the questions, i not having a dig, i am intrigued to your thought process is all… Sorry if you have answered these exact questions!

Joe

i was just joking, even though i know its the diet i hate feeling small, even if its only for a few days lol. The show is may 24 and i am using the test up through the week after the show so i can get some good refeeding. I will probably go with prop next time cause i dont have much inject pain anymore. I was about to buy some halo but i decided to go with the proviron instead, i might try it next time i cut. what was your experience with halo like?

Jesus, if i took halotestin i would take 10mg in the morning and be sentanced for life in the afternoon. I cannot risk myself on something like that, truthfully, i would love to take it, especially for a contest, i know it is a perfect contest drug… but i wouldnt be able to control the aggression!

I am dying for one of you lot to give it a whirl i believe at just 20mg a day it is decent for competitive type gains, dryness, vascularity, hardness, strength like a mo-fo, aggression on the stage… I may be tempted… just for a week or so upto the event … id have to try it to see if i am stable.

I think sometjhing like prop, mast and halo or prop, halo and bold would be great…

Hold on!!

Testosterone Propionate 75mgED
Halotestin 10-20mgED
Masteron 75mg4xpw
Boldenone 300mg/pw
Trenbolone Acetate 50mgED

What about that as a cutting stack!!! Fantasy obviously, but is it ok to the vets or do you think it is shit? I gonna start a new thread with this i think…!

lol

Joe[/quote]

well perhaps i will try the halo next time, unless me and my liver get into a argument which of course i back hand it and in return it moves out with its sister out of town…

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Dave, i saw what you wrote in cortes’ thread.

Have you tested the lasix to see how it is going to get you looking, and how - prior to the event?

Then you can truly know how much is water and what not… with Cyp the water really is there, (i know you know this) and it can make you seem a hell of a lot fatter than you are…

What do you think? Have you got your carb load stuff down? I take it you dont need to manipulate sodium with the lasix?

Are you ready and is there anything you can do to get ready-ier is what i think i am asking?! :slight_smile:

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buddy i am doing everything i can, but this is my 2nd show and there is infinite amount of knowledge to learn on the subject. i dont think im goin to try the lasix pre show because i wanna minamize my lasix use.

FINAL WEEK:

Monday:
protein will be dropped from 400 to 200 from chicken breast,egg whites, and some protein powder.

carbs are at 30grams ( 2 slices of Ezekiel bread GI value of 34) in the morning with breakfast. dont count greens beans and broccoli.

3gals of water

salt load by very lightly salt all my chicken.

2x45 mins cardio AM/PM, train really high rep , pose 20 mins

TUESDAY:
Same as monday

WEDNESDAY:
Same except… no carbs and half portions of veggies. NO SALT.

THURSDAY:
Protien will be 100grams of egg whites

carbs will be 400g very dry steel cut oatmeal , and 150g from rice cakes, honey, jelly.

NO SALT

16oz water

FRIDAY:
same as thurs except only more simple carbs, just sips on water

SHOWTIME:
Up at 5a.m. start eating pb&j’s until i get on stage. sips of water. niacin 15 mins before i get on stage. except any awards/ trophies ect. GO HOME AND EAT

probably forgot something but that is similar to what i did last year with some changes i feel will work out better. on top of all this i have a fucking test on wed that i dont know how i am goin to get ready for on top of all this…gotta love it.

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Props to ya mate. 100%. Respect.

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As you keep getting closer to the contest, even know perhaps get rid of the protein powder completely.

Swapping that for something like egg whites will do wonders for you.

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[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
As you keep getting closer to the contest, even know perhaps get rid of the protein powder completely.

Swapping that for something like egg whites will do wonders for you.[/quote]

yea i know…its just so easy. i have been trying to only take 1 a day

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If you’re really cutting sodium, I would recommend taking out the egg whites and replacing them with boiled chicken. Especially on Fri. Also, halotestin is a must for me pre-contest, and the aggression (at least in my case) is greatly exagerated.

-M

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[quote]mbaina wrote:
If you’re really cutting sodium, I would recommend taking out the egg whites and replacing them with boiled chicken. Especially on Fri. Also, halotestin is a must for me pre-contest, and the aggression (at least in my case) is greatly exagerated.

-M[/quote]

thanks, your right. chicken breast it is.

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So 5 days Dave. What are your thoguhts?

Things seem to be shaping up quite well.

World

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
So 5 days Dave. What are your thoguhts?

Things seem to be shaping up quite well.

World[/quote]

well… im getting really tired and low on energy i have decided to just keep my clen dose pretty high 120mcg and its helping. Cardio and training are on point so i just need to keep hittin it and i should be ok.

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[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
World1187 wrote:
So 5 days Dave. What are your thoguhts?

Things seem to be shaping up quite well.

World

well… im getting really tired and low on energy i have decided to just keep my clen dose pretty high 120mcg and its helping. Cardio and training are on point so i just need to keep hittin it and i should be ok. [/quote]

Well just keep on keeping on man. I’ll warn you that the last two days prior to a contest are the toughest and the most important. One wrong step, and you’re fucked. So don’t give in to a bad desire.

World