Hi, guys i am coming off the off season and am about to start cutting for my second show. Let me know what you think of this cycle. I am limited on my money and decided to keep it simple. My goals are to get shredded and hopefully gain some more lean mass.i would love to gain 10lbs of muscle before i get on stage.
week------ 1-16 test-C 1000 mg/wk
week------ 8-16 oral winny 100 mg/day
Pct is in place and i will be taking lasix 3 days out.
help a guy out.
[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
Hi, guys i am coming off the off season and am about to start cutting for my second show. Let me know what you think of this cycle. I am limited on my money and decided to keep it simple. My goals are to get shredded and hopefully gain some more lean mass.i would love to gain 10lbs of muscle before i get on stage.
week------ 1-16 test-C 1000 mg/wk
week------ 8-16 oral winny 100 mg/day
Pct is in place and i will be taking lasix 3 days out.
help a guy out.
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8 weeks of 100mg oral winny ED? Thats going to be extremely liver toxic.the only oral i would run that long would be var or primo, but even with those 8 weeks would be pushing it.your joints are gonna hate you also.
[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
Hi, guys i am coming off the off season and am about to start cutting for my second show. Let me know what you think of this cycle. I am limited on my money and decided to keep it simple. My goals are to get shredded and hopefully gain some more lean mass.i would love to gain 10lbs of muscle before i get on stage.
week------ 1-16 test-C 1000 mg/wk
week------ 8-16 oral winny 100 mg/day
Pct is in place and i will be taking lasix 3 days out.
help a guy out.
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Why cyp? Why not prop?
Prisoner would be your best source for advice on this topic.
Let’s hope he chimes in.
i had a bad experience with sust where i couldent walk or train legs that great for 12 weeks. im assuming it was the prop and am scared to try it by itself and any other sust for that matter. Thanks for the responses guys any help is appreciated.
[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
Why cyp? Why not prop?
i had a bad experience with sust where i couldent walk or train legs that great for 12 weeks. im assuming it was the prop and am scared to try it by itself and any other sust for that matter. Thanks for the responses guys any help is appreciated.
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prop is painful but like majority of aas you get used to it.You were probally either injecting wrong or you had some shitty grade sust.prop is also much cheaper $$ than test C considering that you are on a budget.
[quote]sota123 wrote:
Dave1188 wrote:
Why cyp? Why not prop?
i had a bad experience with sust where i couldent walk or train legs that great for 12 weeks. im assuming it was the prop and am scared to try it by itself and any other sust for that matter. Thanks for the responses guys any help is appreciated.
prop is painful but like majority of aas you get used to it.You were probally either injecting wrong or you had some shitty grade sust.prop is also much cheaper $$ than test C considering that you are on a budget.
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its true but i wasent injecting wrong and it went on for the whole cycle. i dont see any major problems with running the test C. of course i could be wrong.lol
little help now
just a update but im about 4 weeks out right now from my show and i have been shocked to see how my cycle turned out. I started at 240 and i am currently and have been for a week 225lb. I am getting very lean with a little water but my weight is staying. i am on track for 4 weeks out hoping to come in at around 210-215. the cycle ended up looking a little different and i highly recommend it as far as a cutting cycle goes. joints hurt lol…
new updated cycle (on week 12)
week------ 1-16 test-C 1000 mg/wk
week------ 8-16 oral winny 100 mg/day
week------ 10-16 proviron 50mg/day
week------ 13-16 clen tapor :40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/ 100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40
well not that anyone cares but this might be useful to someone considering a similar cycle. I still am not sure how i wanna use the lasix at the end so if anyone has any insight on the matter i would appreciate it.
How much is at stake in this contest? If it is just an amateur run and you don’t have anything on the line like sup contracts or pro-cards (and based upon your posting style, I think you don’t), then I would not bother with the lasix. Diuretics are dangerous for anybody, and there is no reason, IMO, to add them to this cycle if there is not something big on the line. Also I see you didn’t take anyone’s advice and are still running oral winny for 8 weeks. The fact that this is a very bad idea has not changed in this time. At least add some liver support in there.
Anybody I know that takes lasix for competitions goes by this rule…20mglasix/400mg potassium…a few of the bigger guys take 40mg lasix/800mg potassium…get the pic? I wouldn’t recommend going over 20mg, especially for a first time user.
They take it the afternoon of the day before and before bed, so about 4-5 hrs apart. Then depending on how much water you need to lose possibly again upon wakening.
Get those gummy bear vitamins. Not only will you get your nutrients from them but they taste great and have a little carbs with slim sodium, which is great for the day of the competition. Sip a bottle of water the day of the comp until after prejudging, then you can have some more water and eat a bit, just don’t splurge.
I’ve never taken lasix, never felt the need too and some other diuretics like star caps worked just fine for me. This is just info that I gathered for when the time comes for me to use a powerful diuretic such as lasix. I agree with Cortes and I think you shouldn’t use lasix unless you know what you are doing not only with the lasix, but for every other minute detail of pre-contest prep as well.
Gerdy
I’ve never taken diuretics for any of my competitions, never needed to. My rule is to always stop the heavy oils at about 8 weeks out. From then until the show its inj winny 50mg/day, anavar 60mgs/day, mast. 50mg/eod, GH 5ius/day, cytomel up 75mcg/ed. The week before the show I do a three day water loading protocol (usually mon, tue , wed, if the show’s on Sat). Wed I cut sodium. Thurs, I take in half the water I took in on Wed, and then Thur and Fri NO water. Friday night I take a shot of vodka every hour the three hours before I go to sleep. I’m sure I’ve missed something as its been a few years, but I plan on getting back into it this year.
-M
[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
just a update but im about 4 weeks out right now from my show and i have been shocked to see how my cycle turned out. I started at 240 and i am currently and have been for a week 225lb. I am getting very lean with a little water but my weight is staying. i am on track for 4 weeks out hoping to come in at around 210-215. the cycle ended up looking a little different and i highly recommend it as far as a cutting cycle goes. joints hurt lol…
new updated cycle (on week 12)
week------ 1-16 test-C 1000 mg/wk
week------ 8-16 oral winny 100 mg/day
week------ 10-16 proviron 50mg/day
week------ 13-16 clen tapor :40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/ 100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40
well not that anyone cares but this might be useful to someone considering a similar cycle. I still am not sure how i wanna use the lasix at the end so if anyone has any insight on the matter i would appreciate it.[/quote]
What you mean not that anyone cares? we all love you.
Are you not holding the water, or are you just relying on the lasix to drop that for you? I am not versed on the correct and safe use of that so i will not comment.
I am surprised you went for this as a pre-contest cycle, but the proviron should give you a grainy look i have enjoyed from it in the past (not this time though - bloater that i am!), with the low BF, and the winstrol - why did you go tabs? And why winny not Var? Just wondering for my own cycles…
As for the prop, i just dont get it. It should never be so painful as to be unusable, otherwise it isnt much of a sellable drug in a medecinal sense either! It gotta be some low grade shit… get some proper branded shit and you’ll be lovely! it is supposed to hold less water… but with the lasix, who cares.
Got any pics?
Joe
thanks yall, your i appreciate your advice. this is not my first time preparing for a contest, just the first time on the dark side. I know pretty much all the final week protocol just wondering about the lasix and the amount of water i should take in thurs,fri,sat(will be loading mon-wed). cortez im not sure what u can determine from my posting style lol guess i dont post a whole lot… anyway it is level 4 NPC show.
joe- its pharma-grade but i just wanted to go with testC. im goin to give sust or prop next cycle probably. i will try to take some pics soon and get them on here
[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
thanks yall, your i appreciate your advice. this is not my first time preparing for a contest, just the first time on the dark side. I know pretty much all the final week protocol just wondering about the lasix and the amount of water i should take in thurs,fri,sat(will be loading mon-wed). cortez im not sure what u can determine from my posting style lol guess i dont post a whole lot… anyway it is level 4 NPC show.
joe- its pharma-grade but i just wanted to go with testC. im goin to give sust or prop next cycle probably. i will try to take some pics soon and get them on here
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Sip on a couple 20oz bottles the night before and day of, but I wouldn’t go much over that. Make sure you undertand lasix. Something people forget is that it usually works off of a cycle in your body. So don’t take too much thinking you have more water to get out because more than likely the lasix in your system isn’t finished working yet. Electolyte balance messes up, dehydration messes up, too little or too much potassium and the heart cramps and you die, so be careful. lol
The day before consume a little bit of water depending on how you look and feel.
2 days out you should already be cutting your water consumption down from loading the water, but you should be getting enough where you feel fine.
Gerdy
[quote]mbaina wrote:
I’ve never taken diuretics for any of my competitions, never needed to. My rule is to always stop the heavy oils at about 8 weeks out. From then until the show its inj winny 50mg/day, anavar 60mgs/day, mast. 50mg/eod, GH 5ius/day, cytomel up 75mcg/ed. The week before the show I do a three day water loading protocol (usually mon, tue , wed, if the show’s on Sat). Wed I cut sodium. Thurs, I take in half the water I took in on Wed, and then Thur and Fri NO water. Friday night I take a shot of vodka every hour the three hours before I go to sleep. I’m sure I’ve missed something as its been a few years, but I plan on getting back into it this year.
-M[/quote]
so u dont run any test starting 8 weeks out?
thanks gerdy exactly what i was looking for and yes hopfully i wont die.
I used lasix at my last show, the guy that posted above said 20mg lasix and 400 mg potassium. That works great
Good luck with the show man.
[quote]jaredbr wrote:
I used lasix at my last show, the guy that posted above said 20mg lasix and 400 mg potassium. That works great
Good luck with the show man.
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do u also suggest starting it the day before? And just to get this straight 20mg lasix / 400mg potassium in the afternoon and then another 20mg lasix / 400mg potassium before bed (4-5 hours later) and then decide upon waking what else needs to be done.
I took the lasix for three days thursday-saturday.
water intake was
10liters monday
9 tuesd
8 wed
1 thursday
no water friday
and only sipped water on sat
[quote]jaredbr wrote:
I took the lasix for three days thursday-saturday.
water intake was
10liters monday
9 tuesd
8 wed
1 thursday
no water friday
and only sipped water on sat[/quote]
hey thanks a lot i think im getting a good idea of what i gotta do. Before my last show i did mon-wed 3gal of water a day and then just had maybe one or 2 sips a day thurs and Friday. on the day of i had a few sips in the morning.
ill try to get some pics up tomorrow.