USAPL doesn’t allow TUEs. If you get tested and fail, you will be suspended from the federation and your name will be published on the website. I would advise you to compete in an untested fed.
[quote]Triceptaurus wrote:
I can’t believe the horseshit replies you are getting to this. Oh wait, yes I can.
IPF federations (USAPL is one) are drug tested. They are not “drug free”. If you have a medical requirement to take a banned substance (not an illegal substance, a substance banned for your particular sport) then you have a process by which you can still compete.
You can apply for a theraputic use exemption (TUE). Sounds easy but you have to get all your ducks in a row including pre-TRT blood test results and current results plus have your doctor fill out a form. Each country may be different so go check out the USAPL site and find the link to your WADA sanctioned drug testing organisation, whatever that is in the US. You should be able to find the forms and directions there.
On the other hand, you could just go ahead and compete. At the doses you are taking you are not gaining an advantage over a normal healthy person of your sex, age and weight. I doubt that it would show up on a test as they do not test for “testosterone” or the product you are taking. Without getting all CSI about it they have to use some very, very expensive equipement to determine if your testosterone is plant based (which is what all injectables are made from) and not human testo.
What they check for in your urine sample is the ration of testosterone to epitestosterone. If it’s over 4:1 they might go and do the further tests. At your level of TRT it would not show up.
However, if a USAPL is the closest and most convenient meet, then it probably would be best to go through the red tape and get a TUE. Yes, its a pain, especially for a beginner lifter, but it will ease your mind and avoid any extra stress. Its like filling in your tax return forms even though you did not make any money for the year. A pain, a drag but you can rest easy.
Full props go to you for wanting to compete. You will be doing something that most gym goers never do: walking the walk and putting it on the line in front of your peers. You will have a great time. Do it.[/quote]
I found a TUE form.
Thank you!! I hope they will accept this
They will not because USAPL categorically disallows TUEs for Test. Where are you located that you cannot find an untested meet?
[quote]frankjl wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Normally I would agree 100%, but given the OP, I really don’t see the problem. He isn’t very strong and he wants some meet experience, so I don’t really see why it matters. He’s not going to win his weight class, so where’s the unfair advantage?
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The OP can get the experience he seeks in the APF. The unfair advantage is that he’ll be competing against people who assume that their competitors in the AAPF aren’t supplementing their body with testosterone. Just because he doesn’t think he’ll place doesn’t make it right. I would feel more sympathetic for the guy if there wasn’t a division that caters to him. But there is – it’s the APF; and with a prior medical clearance from the meet director the AAPF.
Most meet directors won’t test competitors because they assume (apparently incorrectly) that lifters have enough integrity in them to select the division that applies to them.
Like I said, I’ve competed in tested & untested meets. I’ve beat plenty of guys that have used drugs in untested meets and I’ve lost to other guys who are life time drug free. At the end of the day, the experience is the exact same. You still lift on the same stage and are in the same flights. If the OP’s goal is to get experience then the division he lifts in doesn’t make any difference.[/quote]
That’s true…I’ll admit I kind of forgot about that part of it. Touche 
[quote]pk0ad wrote:
They will not because USAPL categorically disallows TUEs for Test. Where are you located that you cannot find an untested meet?[/quote]
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
UPA meet an hour away from you in April. Fed is not tested. Problem solved.
[quote]pk0ad wrote:
They will not because USAPL categorically disallows TUEs for Test. Where are you located that you cannot find an untested meet?[/quote]
I will try anyways, I have talked to people that have competed in USAPL sanctioned meets on TRT where they straightened it out with the coordinater. I talked with the coordinater of this meet on the phone and she was really nice but I want to wait until I get an approved form in-hand before I explain my situation.
[quote]pk0ad wrote:
UPA meet an hour away from you in April. Fed is not tested. Problem solved.[/quote]
I misread their form I thought it said drug testing but that is a separate division. Thanks
I’ll just add that I know 100% RAW will sometimes accept a TUE if it is from a doctor, a friend of mine had testicular cancer and was given Test to help with that and is able to lift. Again contact the fed, just be honest with them and follow what they suggest.
At the end of the day, PLing doesn’t need more Fed’s, a TRT fed is the last thing we need. I think someone running TRT at low legal dose to corect a medical issue, has more in common with natural lifter’s than he does with, juiced up monster’s, and we really don’t want to force a law abiding citizen to have to go the drug route to stay competative, atleast I don’t. Other sports have delt with the issue of TRT. I think the closest to PLing would be MMA, they have a policy where TRT is accepted as long as your test level’s are under a certain % or parts per million.
For me personaly, I take a little over twice what the OP takes, I take 200mls a week of test, I think this actually works against me from a PLing stand point, because it dosen't seem to be enough to give me any strength advantage, but it gives me a muscle building advantage. I keep getting bigger, and bigger, without the strength gains to match. I know you can't make a case off one persons results but thats what happened to me. I just think OLing needs to find a solution to this issue, before a new Fed pops up, because this seems to be the answer to everything in PLing. 2cents