I am looking at competing in my first powerlifting comp ever…I’m really excited and want to do it.
I looked for meets and the only one I could find in the next year within 300 miles (I looked at every federation’s website meet schedule, the ones that had websites)
I’m on test injections 150mg bi-weekly…my natural T levels are below 100…
I have done my research and understand that I’m sh*t out of luck as far as drug-free competitions are concerned…
Could I get some advice for new powerlifter on TRT?
Thank you all
James
EDIT: I thought the meet was APF/AAPF but it is a USAPL competition. I found a quote by them saying even if you are on TRT you are subject to the same procedures ( no clearance) I want to just try competing so bad, its not the end of the world if I get tested…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Why would you compete in a federation that tests if you aren’t drug free? [/quote]
It is my first time I just want to experience it, I don’t care about awards or winning.
I am not very strong because of my condition but the TRT and training is helping and I think if I compete early it will give me a clear goal.
I just don’t know what to expect from this…I have the idea in my head that you go there, say which of the two feds you are in (amateur drug free / non tested) and I see the non tested have all these massive strong guys and little me…lol…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Why would you compete in a federation that tests if you aren’t drug free? [/quote]
It is my first time I just want to experience it, I don’t care about awards or winning.
I am not very strong because of my condition but the TRT and training is helping and I think if I compete early it will give me a clear goal.
I just don’t know what to expect from this…I have the idea in my head that you go there, say which of the two feds you are in (amateur drug free / non tested) and I see the non tested have all these massive strong guys and little me…lol…[/quote]
Powerlifting, at its core, is about you vs. you. It’s about the total you can produce not what the other guys are doing.
Just go to a non-tested event and do your best. Just have fun with it.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Are you taking because of a condition or are you just taking?
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It is a prescription, and its pretty low dose i think? (150mg bi-weekly)
Before the prescription, my test was at like 56 ng/DL which is low for a woman i think lol…(multiple blood tests done)[/quote]
That probably a different story all together. I would try and contact the Fed you want to compete in and see if a prescription is a different story. It probably is.
You’re taking testosterone injections. You should not compete in the AAPF division unless you get medical clearance from the meet director. It’s that simple. I can’t believe this is even a question?
You’re taking testosterone injections. You should not compete in the AAPF division unless you get medical clearance from the meet director. It’s that simple. I can’t believe this is even a question?[/quote]
That isn’t the question. There is no clear and concise question, I am just seeking advice. I did not know there was a such thing as medical clearance. I can prove it to the director and get a pass to compete?
You’re taking testosterone injections. You should not compete in the AAPF division unless you get medical clearance from the meet director. It’s that simple. I can’t believe this is even a question?[/quote]
That isn’t the question. There is no clear and concise question, I am just seeking advice. I did not know there was a such thing as medical clearance. I can prove it to the director and get a pass to compete? [/quote]
I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers. As a lifetime drug free lifter who has competed in both tested & untested meets, I am bothered by people who think it’s acceptable to compete in the tested / drug free divisions despite using drugs just because they think they can avoid getting caught.
“Amateur American Powerlifting Federation was developed to bring Amateur b[/b] lifting to a venue that is already established with the Powerlifting community so that all lifters may compete on the same platform.”
Translation: APF untested, AAPF is “tested”.
You have 2 options:
Compete in the APF which is untested. This is an option even if you are drug free.
Attempt to get a medical clearance through the meet director and compete in the AAPF. I know that some federations grant medical clearances for situations when lifters are on prescribed TRT – but I don’t know about the APF. You can try to explain it to the meet director and see what he/she says. They may or may not accept your application.
Regardless whether you go APF/AAPF you probably won’t get tested. If you go AAPF without getting the medical clearance, I will consider you to be a pecker checker.
You’re taking testosterone injections. You should not compete in the AAPF division unless you get medical clearance from the meet director. It’s that simple. I can’t believe this is even a question?[/quote]
No need to sound quite so offended. He’s on prescribed TRT, and most prescribed medication is allowed in tested competition, so why wouldn’t he ask? Therapeutic Use exemptions are available in certain situations, but I have no idea how difficult this is to arrange.
When you say “bi-weekly”, do you mean every other week? That sounds low, very low. If its twice a week though, that’s definitely enough for you to be gaining an advantage over ‘natural’ lifters… If that’s the case, you can’t compete legitimately against tested opposition.
Contact the organisers and find out for sure how they deal with TRT. It can’t hurt to find out.
I think he means 2x a week but not completely sure since 150mg does sound like the high end dosage for a week. On TRT most men need to inject every 3-4 days to have more consistent levels in the body. So how often you inject doesn’t really mean your levels are going to be much higher.
As others have said, just ask the someone in charge about TRT and drug free.
I’d check out the TRT forum here. Lots of good info to digest. You’ll discover many doctors are pretty clueless when it comes to this.
I agree with the above…If he is taking Test in a therapeutic, non “performance enhancing” dosage, I personally do not believe he should have to compete in a non-tested division. In my eyes, an 150mg bi weekly dosage does not put him in the same category in the mutants who are taking 750 weekly + whatever else the fuck they are taking, that’s not fair. To a lifter who is taking TRT for a legitimate medical reason, I dont see the difference in the person who is taking medication for any other medical condition. Why should a lifter be at a deficit in every division because they have low T?
Also to the OP, 150 bi weekly is ridiculously low…check the T-replacement forum for some real good info, albeit info overload
It is 150mg, once every two weeks. He says that is a middle dose (not high not low) and my test was 650 ng/dL after some treatment so he says that its a good dose…
I did read a lot on TRT and I do know that is pretty low, but how do I get him to prescribe more? he seems to be very conservative and he knows I have strength / bodybuilding goals…I don’t mean to turn this into TRT discussion
Could you guys also be clear if you think its medically too low of a dose or if your saying I would just see better gains with a higher dose?
You’re taking testosterone injections. You should not compete in the AAPF division unless you get medical clearance from the meet director. It’s that simple. I can’t believe this is even a question?[/quote]
That isn’t the question. There is no clear and concise question, I am just seeking advice. I did not know there was a such thing as medical clearance. I can prove it to the director and get a pass to compete? [/quote]
I didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers. As a lifetime drug free lifter who has competed in both tested & untested meets, I am bothered by people who think it’s acceptable to compete in the tested / drug free divisions despite using drugs just because they think they can avoid getting caught.
“Amateur American Powerlifting Federation was developed to bring Amateur b[/b] lifting to a venue that is already established with the Powerlifting community so that all lifters may compete on the same platform.”
Translation: APF untested, AAPF is “tested”.
You have 2 options:
Compete in the APF which is untested. This is an option even if you are drug free.
Attempt to get a medical clearance through the meet director and compete in the AAPF. I know that some federations grant medical clearances for situations when lifters are on prescribed TRT – but I don’t know about the APF. You can try to explain it to the meet director and see what he/she says. They may or may not accept your application.
Regardless whether you go APF/AAPF you probably won’t get tested. If you go AAPF without getting the medical clearance, I will consider you to be a pecker checker.[/quote]
Normally I would agree 100%, but given the OP, I really don’t see the problem. He isn’t very strong and he wants some meet experience, so I don’t really see why it matters. He’s not going to win his weight class, so where’s the unfair advantage?
