I’ve posted the first part of our club championship, the squats. A range of abilities and ages. Hope you enjoy.
Bench and deads to follow.
Odd lighting, nice set up you have there.
Nice vid.
Was it a qualify for equipped and unequipped Brits 08 (BWLA)?
If so should see some of your lads at the unequipped and poss equipped.
Cool vid and nice lifting.
Cheers Iaink & Persky, not a qualifier just the regular Club champs. We decided that due to the (very) wide spread of abilities in the club (and gym) and the fact that we’re supposed to be Powerlifters, then we should all lift together (with guests allowed to lift) at least once a year.
Its good PR for the Club and the Sports Centre are very good; they shut the weight room to public users and let us take over for no charge. Although the club is BDFPA registered (but has been BWLA registered in the past) this wasn’t a ‘sanctioned’ competition. Everyone is allowed to lift in any or all the lifts (old wrecks like me only manage a light Bench), equiped or otherwise. Club champion is lifter with a full total and the highest Wilks total.
We might start splitting equiped & unequiped if there are more of each lifting per year.
Club members include:
Helen Isaac (WR holder in unequiped DL at 58.5kg BDFPA)
Gaz Fisher (British 40+ champ last year at 75kg)
Dave Howarth (former M2 commonwealth DL record 287.5kg @ 100kg in BWLA)
Good idea!
BTW Old Dax = Boffin, Old Dax is on my home computer Boffin at work.
These were raw I hope since they were not very heavy.
Also you say its a powerlifting gym but why was NO ONE over 500lb squat-in fact I think only 1 was over 400lbs-? I would think a gym specified in powerlifting would have some more serious lifters.
[quote]shizen wrote:
These were raw I hope since they were not very heavy.
Also you say its a powerlifting gym but why was NO ONE over 500lb squat-in fact I think only 1 was over 400lbs-? I would think a gym specified in powerlifting would have some more serious lifters. [/quote]
Some raw some not. Serious doesn’t always equate with a 500lb squat! BTW there was (not on the part one vid obviously) a 182.5kg Bench and a 280kg deadlift, both raw.
[quote]Old Dax wrote:
shizen wrote:
These were raw I hope since they were not very heavy.
Also you say its a powerlifting gym but why was NO ONE over 500lb squat-in fact I think only 1 was over 400lbs-? I would think a gym specified in powerlifting would have some more serious lifters.
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Wow, way to be a douche.
Dax are any of your lifters going up to Grangemouth next week?
[quote]Hanley wrote:
Old Dax wrote:
shizen wrote:
These were raw I hope since they were not very heavy.
Also you say its a powerlifting gym but why was NO ONE over 500lb squat-in fact I think only 1 was over 400lbs-? I would think a gym specified in powerlifting would have some more serious lifters.
Wow, way to be a douche.
Dax are any of your lifters going up to Grangemouth next week?[/quote]
Yes, Helen Isaac will be there, she’s not sure if she’s lifting though (she pulled 140kg last Tuesday) but she’ll be there to take pics at least.
Fred Greenall will be lifting. Don’t think Russ Birkett will be lifting, there will be a mini bus from the club going on Sat to watch. Looking forward to it!
At last, I’ve managed to put part3 up,
Note to self: post the vids quicker!
I am curious, why does no one there take a wide stance in the squats?
[quote]John S. wrote:
I am curious, why does no one there take a wide stance in the squats?[/quote]
Because that’s how the majoirty of people squat in a IPF style comp. Ya know… the biggest fed in the world?
Great effort on these videos thanks for sharing them!Thanks for not incorporating a death metal track!
[quote]Hanley wrote:
John S. wrote:
I am curious, why does no one there take a wide stance in the squats?
Because that’s how the majoirty of people squat in a IPF style comp. Ya know… the biggest fed in the world?[/quote]
Well you know westside, the group that produces some of the best lifters in the world…uses wide stance.
While Westside methods have definitely changed powerlifting training and allowed to limits to be pushed further, you have to be careful with generalisations. While Westside produces fantastic lifters, it is different to them producing the best lifters in the world.
While Chuck V., Greg Panora, Matt Smith and in the juniors David Hoff are great lifters and should be considered among the best in the world, none of them lift in an IPF fed, and while I believe Chuck will eventually leave Yarymbash’s total in the dust, until he does the only guy with the worlds best total in his division is Greg Panora. Chuck V. and Greg Panora can definitely be considered the best lifters in the world in their fed, but those two lifters do not mean Westside produces the best lifters in the world, and it will be hard to justify it as doing so until they at least claim the SHW total and bench, let alone producing a world champion IPF lifter.
For clarification, I have nothing against Westside, I train using their methods and greatly respect all of their lifters regardless, as I know they are doing great things and working bloody hard in the gym. If you want to see pretty much the widest stances by successful squatters in the IPF, check out Clive Henry and Wade Hooper and bear in mind that they tend to be the exception rather than the rule.
[quote]smokotime wrote:
While Westside methods have definitely changed powerlifting training and allowed to limits to be pushed further, you have to be careful with generalisations. While Westside produces fantastic lifters, it is different to them producing the best lifters in the world.
While Chuck V., Greg Panora, Matt Smith and in the juniors David Hoff are great lifters and should be considered among the best in the world, none of them lift in an IPF fed, and while I believe Chuck will eventually leave Yarymbash’s total in the dust, until he does the only guy with the worlds best total in his division is Greg Panora. Chuck V. and Greg Panora can definitely be considered the best lifters in the world in their fed, but those two lifters do not mean Westside produces the best lifters in the world, and it will be hard to justify it as doing so until they at least claim the SHW total and bench, let alone producing a world champion IPF lifter.
For clarification, I have nothing against Westside, I train using their methods and greatly respect all of their lifters regardless, as I know they are doing great things and working bloody hard in the gym. If you want to see pretty much the widest stances by successful squatters in the IPF, check out Clive Henry and Wade Hooper and bear in mind that they tend to be the exception rather than the rule. [/quote]
The only reason I stated that was because that guy gave a dick answer so I responded back with a dick answer. Now I admit I don’t know alot about Ipf and maybe I am an exception to the rule too but I find it better for me to squat wide then narrow.
[quote]John S. wrote:
smokotime wrote:
While Westside methods have definitely changed powerlifting training and allowed to limits to be pushed further, you have to be careful with generalisations. While Westside produces fantastic lifters, it is different to them producing the best lifters in the world.
While Chuck V., Greg Panora, Matt Smith and in the juniors David Hoff are great lifters and should be considered among the best in the world, none of them lift in an IPF fed, and while I believe Chuck will eventually leave Yarymbash’s total in the dust, until he does the only guy with the worlds best total in his division is Greg Panora. Chuck V. and Greg Panora can definitely be considered the best lifters in the world in their fed, but those two lifters do not mean Westside produces the best lifters in the world, and it will be hard to justify it as doing so until they at least claim the SHW total and bench, let alone producing a world champion IPF lifter.
For clarification, I have nothing against Westside, I train using their methods and greatly respect all of their lifters regardless, as I know they are doing great things and working bloody hard in the gym. If you want to see pretty much the widest stances by successful squatters in the IPF, check out Clive Henry and Wade Hooper and bear in mind that they tend to be the exception rather than the rule.
The only reason I stated that was because that guy gave a dick answer so I responded back with a dick answer. Now I admit I don’t know alot about Ipf and maybe I am an exception to the rule too but I find it better for me to squat wide then narrow.
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I was “a dick” because you obviously didn’t know enough about the sport to be making a comment that I percieved to be a sly dig. Maybe that wasn’t the case and I’m just a cycnical asshole because I’m so used to people thinking powerlifting IS the WPO and that it’s hte pinnacle of the sport. If you weren’t doing that then I genuinely I am sorry.
Anyway as for “best lifters in the world”… Can I just point out a few of the top IPF lifters…
Brian Siders - 2600+ in single ply gear and drug free. Hoenstly enough said there.
Andrey Belyaev - 977.5kg at 90 (that’s 2,155 at 198), he’s walked out and squatted 400kg, that’s over 880lb. And that’s at 90kg with a 2 hour weigh in before anyone says anything about Sam B’s insnae squat!
Jarsolw Olech - 860kg at 75kg (1,895 at 165lb)
Magnus Onerud - 961kg at 106kg at 21/22 (2,120 @ 235lb)
Hell even the other WPO liftes… look at Andy Bolton. He doesn’t train “westside” and is still arguably the strongest man ever. Neither did Coan. or Captain K.
As big a fan I am of Chuck, Panora and Hoff, these are the guys that I personally think are the absolute best in the world.
I’ll probably catch flak for saying this, but as Smokotime already said, the only guy with an all time WR total in his class is Panora (and for the sake of equality I think Amy W. has too?) Westside and wide squats is not the only way. It’s an incredibly productive system that is producing results in every corner of the strength training field. It’s helped me and some of the guys I train with immensly. But so has other things.
If as a result of this post I get abused becuase I refuse to accept that westside is all our saviours then so be it. Hell it’s my dream to go over there and train with Louie and the crew for 6 months when I’m finishd my studies so I certainly don’t think it’s uselss.
This is such a rant so I’m just gonna shut up now but I hope people understand what I’m TRYING to say.
Like I said, I do not know a lot about Ipf, I have seen a few vids from there comps and have seen close stance, which Is why I was asking about it. I personally follow the Ipa where widestance is almost always done.
This is just a question I was asking so I could learn more about my sport. Just like I ask about chains, boards, bands and stuff like that.