[quote]drtim wrote:
Just try puting yourself in that posistion.[/quote]
My secret decoder ring isnt working right now and cant understand what your post means. Can you please restate this so this layman can understand it?
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
drtim wrote:
Just try puting yourself in that posistion.
My secret decoder ring isnt working right now and cant understand what your post means. Can you please restate this so this layman can understand it?[/quote]
Mimic his posistion
Have any of you gone to the web sites I reffered inmate to?
[quote]drtim wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
drtim wrote:
Just try puting yourself in that posistion.
My secret decoder ring isnt working right now and cant understand what your post means. Can you please restate this so this layman can understand it?
Mimic his posistion[/quote]
Couldnt it be as simple as him favoring one side throught his life and thus has an uneven build? And since its clear he hasnt lifted much that he just has a slight imbalance that any regular, consistant, posterior chain development could rectify?
[quote]drtim wrote:
Have any of you gone to the web sites I reffered inmate to?[/quote]
Yeah, I checked out idealspine.com.
Point?
I got asked to chime in on this, but frankly, I’ve given up internet pissing matches. Let’s just say that - as always - the answer rests somewhere in the middle. Some people need to realize that corrective training can be “hardcore” and that all imbalances/inefficiencies aren’t pathologies.
On the other side of the coin, if you knowingly ignore an imbalance, you’re not very bright.
Mike and I did an entire seminar on this in NYC in July. It was videotaped, and the DVDs will be available soon. You guys can’t argue with a DVD, so it might be a good thing to check out. 
[quote]Eric Cressey wrote:
You guys can’t argue with a DVD, so it might be a good thing to check out.
[/quote]
You don’t give us enough credit, we might not WIN the argument, but…
[quote]Eric Cressey wrote:
I got asked to chime in on this, but frankly, I’ve given up internet pissing matches. Let’s just say that - as always - the answer rests somewhere in the middle. Some people need to realize that corrective training can be “hardcore” and that all imbalances/inefficiencies aren’t pathologies.
On the other side of the coin, if you knowingly ignore an imbalance, you’re not very bright.
Mike and I did an entire seminar on this in NYC in July. It was videotaped, and the DVDs will be available soon. You guys can’t argue with a DVD, so it might be a good thing to check out.
www.EricCressey.com[/quote]
You always find a way to plug your products huh? 
You turning into CT?
[quote]Eric Cressey wrote:
I got asked to chime in on this, but frankly, I’ve given up internet pissing matches. Let’s just say that - as always - the answer rests somewhere in the middle. Some people need to realize that corrective training can be “hardcore” and that all imbalances/inefficiencies aren’t pathologies.[/quote]
No argument here at all.
[quote]
On the other side of the coin, if you knowingly ignore an imbalance, you’re not very bright.[/quote]
Here, like in the picture posted, this implies that every “imbalance” needs private attention. I would say that the difference would be in the presentation…ie. pain, poor function, or decreased strength. My left shoulder drops a little. It has caused no problems in over 11 years of weight training (and football in those initial years). I think the issue is that many seem to be unaware that there are people BANKING on this when not all attention is worthy of the bank account withdrawals.
You know what I want to hear, as the piss flies in all directions, is about Adrian WIlson’s pics. Does anyone else see imbalances between the lat developement and the static position of the scapulae?
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
drtim wrote:
Have any of you gone to the web sites I reffered inmate to?
Yeah, I checked out idealspine.com.
Point?[/quote]
If you go to the upper Lrft corner ,the technique section -read it ?study it?It explains how some people figure things out,more precisely.
Repeatability and change in measurement during treatment.
Not just instanteanous but prolonged
change to the ligamets of the spine that get deformed.
By things like computer work, car accidents, golfing,lack of muscle tone.
Dr.Tim
[quote]drtim wrote:
By things like computer work…
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Perhaps reaching with the right arm to use the mouse all day every day for years on end…
works for me
Dr.Tim
Ok gonna chime in with a little story cause this issue hits home for me.
A long time ago (1983) there was this scrawny little sophmore high school kid with posture so bad his mom and dad took him to doctors to see what the deal was.
Both doctors said…bingo, feed that boy a stupid amount of healthy food and put him in an exercise program or activity.
That young lad did just that, he ate and worked out by joining the track team. The track coach was also the football coach, so had a core belief in all his athletes paying respects to the weight room gods.
With a little muscle on the boy of ill posture he…well, stood up.
His training continued and the next year, as a Junior, that very boy went on to take second place in the European Track and Field Championships in pole vault (and landed a cheerleader to boot).
Inmate,
Eat, workout, stand tall (don’t pole vault however).
Bud
former slump-slouch kid
[quote]Bud911 wrote:
Ok gonna chime in with a little story cause this issue hits home for me.
A long time ago (1983) there was this scrawny little sophmore high school kid with posture so bad his mom and dad took him to doctors to see what the deal was.
Both doctors said…bingo, feed that boy a stupid amount of healthy food and put him in an exercise program or activity.
That young lad did just that, he ate and worked out by joining the track team. The track coach was also the football coach, so had a core belief in all his athletes paying respects to the weight room gods.
With a little muscle on the boy of ill posture he…well, stood up.
His training continued and the next year, as a Junior, that very boy went on to take second place in the European Track and Field Championships in pole vault (and landed a cheerleader to boot).
Inmate,
Eat, workout, stand tall (don’t pole vault however).
Bud
former slump-slouch kid [/quote]
sniff That story brought a tear to my eye.
Those are my sentiments exactly. Most of these issues will work themselves out without the microscope provided you are training correctly and not ignoring entire muscle groups. If pain is the major issue, then by all means, get ‘aligned’.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
sniff That story brought a tear to my eye.
Those are my sentiments exactly. Most of these issues will work themselves out without the microscope provided you are training correctly and not ignoring entire muscle groups. If pain is the major issue, then by all means, get ‘aligned’.[/quote]
Prof X,
It’s ok, they say a good cry is healthy, and you were long overdue. Now, quick, go check your estrogen levels.
Bud