You can! @T3hPwnisher and @hillbillyk thrive on this. I gave it a great run myself over the last month and a half or so. It’s not a bad idea to try.
I will also tag in @QuadQueen for the real deal here - there’s considerations to be made with dietary overhauls and she is best able to walk you through them.
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Thanks. Looking forward to some good advice.
This stuff is highly personalized. Before my morning workout I just aim for ~250-300cals from any source as long as I can digest it well. If on a cut or I didn’t have a big dinner the night before i’ll try to make more of them calories carbs but I’m not meticulous with it. Sometimes I don’t have my post workout meal for hours after my workout. Some people on the internet would tell me I’m doing it wrong because “post workout meal” is so much a part of the fitness zeitgeist. But after trying months upon months of it either way, I never once notice a difference. The only difference is I enjoy the meal more, and it sits better on me when I’m not in a rush to force something down in panic that muscle protein synthesis won’t happen otherwise.
@marine77’s post workout meal would sit on me for the rest of the day. But then, 100g is 2/3rds of my entire daily protein intake. There’s nothing wrong with it, all I’m saying is we gotta experiment. Diet is so much about lifestyle and how you feel. @QuadQueen will help you work things out, but this is an experiment that can ebb and flow.
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Yup! I literally have embraced the motto “When in doubt, steak and eggs”. Simplest nutritional flowchart ever, haha.
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Upped my protein bigly after seeing new research showing post workout protein has no upper limits… within reason. It’s not too big actually… 10 to 12 oz of beef, 6 sauteed yolks and 1 small carton of whites.
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People can’t seem to grasp the brilliance is in the simplicity and nutrient density and bioavailability. Stuck on the “balanced diet” bs
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I agree. I am not in a rush for the post workout meal either.
Night before workout, I eat a bowl of oats with some butter and dates or raisins, since I only eat some dates and nuts for breakfast on the next morning before training (my training session includes squats, press and dealifts each time since I like the big lifts).
After training I down a protein shake with some grapes and then I can wait two to three hours to eat a real meal.
Sometimes I eat rice a bowl of pudding with my protein shake instead of fruit and then I will wait longer to eat my full meal.
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Vince Gironda was onto something.
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It’s not that it’s too big, I love eating like that sometimes. It’s just that all of that protein in one sitting just hangs around for a bit long. I do better with little pulses of it throughout the day to keep my gut in check.
If I’ve ate like shit i’ll sometimes have that kind of stuff because I’m chasing. If I forget to take psylium husk with it and an obscene amount of water though it’s like a brick in my stomach for way longer than is normal.
Honestly the two biggest advantages for me of “meat and eggs” the way I do it (since I’m not really trying to lose weight) are 1)Meal prep is super freaking easy and 2)How cool it feels when I eat “regularly” on Saturdays; the carbs make me feel - and look - awesome after being depleted all week.
With protein shakes it’s super easy to manipulate intake to facilitate weight loss/gain.
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I have no digestive issues with it. What’s your eating plan like ?
Diet wise yes… but I think his training methods were a little too much … 8 x 8 for example
Carb replenishment is elevated for a loooong time post workout… try 1 bolus maybe instead of multiple
I think there’s definitely a time and place for his methods. The proof was there enough.
Lots of good suggestions here already, and like @cdep89 said, this stuff is highly individual. What works for one does not work for all. If what you’re currently doing feels good and is giving you the results you want - just keep on keeping on. At the end of the day, if you’ve given your body all the nutrients it needs, it’s going to respond favorably.
@Nfarbstein - is what you’re doing now working? If not, what needs to be improved? Tell me where and how I can best help!
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It’s not worth me expanding on it too much. I’ve posted food diaries here before, and also talked about different elimination diets and symptoms. I manage “okay” right now but my eating plan has always needed to be slightly outside what most people can get away with.
There is nothing wrong with that meal so I hope it didn’t come across as a critcism in any way. I just know that 100g in one sitting slows me down too much unless I take certain precautions, and even then there are no guarantees. Could be stress, could be alcohol abuse in my 20s. I’m not a fad dieter or anything, I’ve just grown to eat based on how it makes me feel later rather than in the moment (but still fail sometimes.)
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I think it works for me (light snack early morning before gym, protein shake right after with some fruit for carbs, few hours later big protein meal like beef or chicken with white rice, etc.)
My lifts have never been better.
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He trained exceptionally genetically gifted guys on sauce… could’ve been plenty that were overtrained, too. But he was definitely a pioneer and had a killer physique.
Ever see Boogey Nights ? There’s a reference to his gym
I was the ULTIMATE bro at one time… 6 to 8 meals a day. Now its 2 maybe 3 tops. Feel and look way better
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