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[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
Tork: What does your current program look like? Please share :slight_smile:
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decided to repeat the german body-comp for athletes program

hey guys, just got home from my skin-fold test.

I dont know what the final % is, but i think it will be another good step in the right direction.

I lost 3 lbs over the last 6 weeks, and i got quite a bit stronger and my ability to recover between sets definatly got better.

The best thing about the skinfolds is that finally my Pec is WAY down, from 8.6-5.6 if i remember correctly. im really really happy with that as i have always been a bit self conscious about that and now that its definatly tightened up i feel a lot more confident!

Almost everything else is down by at least a little including triceps (Im not sure if i have ever had BOTH pec and triceps go down at the same time) and my other bigger sites like umbilical and supra-ilia are also down decently. one of my worst, calf is down some to from 9.5-8.6 so that’s finally making progress as well. my subscap is also down from 11.8-10.5 so its getting closer to that 10mm mark where I believe Poliquin will start allowing for carb-ups to be more frequent, or allowing some PWO carbs.

The ONLY site that im disappointed in is my hamstring which has been stuck as my highest by a big margin for a very long time. last time it was 20.5 and my goal was to finally get it in to the teens. i believe it went down to 19.9 which is alright, but im still wondering whats going on with that. I have taken DIM, i eat lots of organic spinach and broccoli and supplement with lots of fiber.

overall though im pretty happy. Since the start, both my pecs and supra-Illa are now 1/3rd of their start! and i have only dropped around 8lbs since then.

results are in, went from 207 and 14.6% to 204 and 13.5%

so im pretty happy with that although i had hoped for a bit more. everything went down at least a little except for cheek.

anyone have any different advice about getting the hamstring site down more in line with the others?

With the hamstring the first thing you gotta do is stop xeno-estrogens from coming in. Your biosig practitioner should have some good tips for this.

After that zinc will be your best friend.

Then you need to address the basics for detox: vitamin D and if you need it, additional B vitamins.

Here’s an easy way to see if you need more B vitamins: eat asparagus - if you smell it in your pee after you’re not utilizing B vitamins properly (genetic defect). Use Poliquins Methylator 4.0 to get extra B’s that will kickstart the detox process.

[quote]hungryone wrote:
With the hamstring the first thing you gotta do is stop xeno-estrogens from coming in. Your biosig practitioner should have some good tips for this.

After that zinc will be your best friend.

Then you need to address the basics for detox: vitamin D and if you need it, additional B vitamins.

Here’s an easy way to see if you need more B vitamins: eat asparagus - if you smell it in your pee after you’re not utilizing B vitamins properly (genetic defect). Use Poliquins Methylator 4.0 to get extra B’s that will kickstart the detox process.[/quote]

Thanks for the info, i have tried a methylator (not poliquins, but AOR) and made little to no difference. and my urine does not smell when i eat asparagus. I have also been on Zinc for almost 2 years and can now taste the zinc talley. my pecs have dropped from 15 to 5.5 in that time, so i dont think zinc is the issue.

as far as avoiding xenoestrogens, i drink only from a steel waterbottle, and all my creams/shampoos are natural/paribin/parfum free. However i JUST changed my food containers from plastic to glass. even though my old containers were BPA free, doesn’t mean other chemicals wernt leaching in to my food. so hopefully that will make a difference. only other thing is could change is my laundry detergent and maybe my shower curtains or something…

Tork,

I remember you saying you used DIM, calcium d-glucarate, and sulphoraphane with mixed results before, correct?

The issue may be that your gut or liver just needs extra support. Your BioSig practitioner should give you either the fiber cycle with probiotics – if that doesn’t work then you can support liver function with P1P2 balance (I believe Metagenics has an equivalent product to this)

just thought I would give a quick up-date

Im currently just a little shy of half-way through my current intensification training program with the primary focus of getting the strongest i have ever been. (at least in my 6 key lifts, of Squat, Front squat, Bench press, Incline Press, Pull-up and parallel grip chin-up), I pull from the floor with light weight twice/week but not heavy enough to bother testing once the program is done.

The rest periods are still relatively fast, and although the main exercises are in the 2-6 rep range, some of the assistance work goes up to 8-10 reps, so i think i will still get a bit leaner from this program as well which should help me towards getting to 10% body-fat at >200lbs by sometime this summer.

My muscles already seem a bit denser, but it might just be a placebo.

Anyways, im having fun lifting heavy again!

my main goals are to finally bench 300lbs (best ever is 285), Front squat 340 (best ever is 335) and do a parallel grip chin0-up with +125 (best is +105). My best ever back squat was 418, but i dont think ill beat that just yet since im being very careful with back squatting as thats what messed my knee up when i was O-lifting.

my old squat PBs were all back when I was olympic lifting, so just getting back to close to those would be nice esp since im down about 10 pounds since those lifts.

Hey all

New poster to this thread… but long time reader. Thanks to Tork and everyone who has posted on this and helped me learn about experiences with Biosignature.

I met with a biosignature practitioner last Thursday and had my first readings taken. Am doing a 12 week course and excited to see where it gets me! I took delivery this morning of a heap of Poliquin supps. Training is a little interrupted at the moment as I’m recovering from a slipped a disc, but I should be back lifting in the next few weeks.

Tork I’ve no interest in hijacking your great thread, but if it’s useful for others I might post the odd update here and there. Good luck with your training - glad to hear it’s going so well.

I am currently taking Poliquin’s ProFlora Excellence product, in the attempts of introducing Probiotics into my regiment.

I have very bad IBS, total large intestine completely removed, so this is a try at something to see how it goes.

Observations so far… improved feeling, better recovery, less stomach cramping, abdomen seems flatter, sleeping better, and my mood seems to be better as well.

I am still at a loss as to why I cannot get my fucking love handles to shrink, even with products like fish oil, Fenuplex, and Insulinomics.

Attention Hips for Runnin - if you have any advice, I am all ears. Please note that my private messages have been turned off by the mods, so if you can reply, please try to find me here in this Poliquin Bio-Signature Forum.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am currently taking Poliquin’s ProFlora Excellence product, in the attempts of introducing Probiotics into my regiment.

I have very bad IBS, total large intestine completely removed, so this is a try at something to see how it goes.

Observations so far… improved feeling, better recovery, less stomach cramping, abdomen seems flatter, sleeping better, and my mood seems to be better as well.

I am still at a loss as to why I cannot get my fucking love handles to shrink, even with products like fish oil, Fenuplex, and Insulinomics.

Attention Hips for Runnin - if you have any advice, I am all ears. Please note that my private messages have been turned off by the mods, so if you can reply, please try to find me here in this Poliquin Bio-Signature Forum. [/quote]

Im assuming your already very low carb?

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am still at a loss as to why I cannot get my fucking love handles to shrink, even with products like fish oil, Fenuplex, and Insulinomics[/quote]Have you tried exercise?
Weightlifting?
A proper diet?

Yes I am low carb and weightlifting as well as doing high intensity intervals as well.

This has always been a problem area for me, I can lean out everywhere else but the suprailiac area.

Max: I just saw this. I havent been on the site in a long time. I will respond shortly.

Just out of curiosity, does Poliquin have or advise anything for thinning hair ? I know it’s not considered a health issue per se, but any supps other than Finasteride or Rogaine for thin hair ?

MaximusB - what’s your BioSig profile like? Thinning hair and hair loss is related to thyroid health and can really impact your insulin management - hence why that site may be struggling…

up-date,

I have gained a few pounds in the last 2 weeks, been a bit stressed with school/work etc… so im sure that hasn’t helped, but im thinking my appetite is up from the intense training as well. People are saying im looking bigger even though i have only gained 2-3 lbs.

Im getting stronger, and FAST, at least for my standards. only 2.5 week in to the program, but all my training weights are up like 20lbs from the first week.

pretty confident ill hit most, if not all my strength goals.

programs pretty intense though, i feel the need to nap, a lot.

[quote]hungryone wrote:
MaximusB - what’s your BioSig profile like? Thinning hair and hair loss is related to thyroid health and can really impact your insulin management - hence why that site may be struggling…[/quote]

Which site (which area on the body) is responsible for thyroid health ?

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]hungryone wrote:
MaximusB - what’s your BioSig profile like? Thinning hair and hair loss is related to thyroid health and can really impact your insulin management - hence why that site may be struggling…[/quote]

Which site (which area on the body) is responsible for thyroid health ? [/quote]

Mid-auxiliary

I went to the Poliquin website and used their chat function to get advice. The only answer I got was, that thyroid issues could stem from mineral deficiencies. But they had no specific supplement to suggest.