Just want to wish you luck and all the best. You have made impressive gains in a short time. You make all of us ectos proud 
Soooo. . .
What becomes of this thread?
Im on week 2 right now and loving this. I have gained about 3 pounds already and have actually seen a size difference. The meals are hard, but its getting easier with every day. Sometimes I cant wait for the next meal.
I forgot how much I love pineapple though, damn, that stuff is good! Also, normally I got really tired at work around 3pm. But, now I have my 2nd snack (bar, apple, pineapple) and im full of energy till dinner with no crash.
Hey Man,
Just wanted to let you know I lurked this forums and followed your progress very closely and think you did great. Iām going to be trying the same thing you did in the upcoming week. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.
USCTrojan619ā¦great job in this short amount of time! Stay safe and God bless
Ive got a question for anyone.
I was looking ahead to the second workout plan and it consists of going back and forth between two lifts with 180seconds in between. At my gym, some of the equipment is a distance away from each other. How do I get around the problem of holding up two machines for so long? What do you guys recommend?
[quote]FedorE wrote:
Ive got a question for anyone.
I was looking ahead to the second workout plan and it consists of going back and forth between two lifts with 180seconds in between. At my gym, some of the equipment is a distance away from each other. How do I get around the problem of holding up two machines for so long? What do you guys recommend?
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Well, either way you gotta realize youāre going to piss some people off. That being said, I print out my workouts and put them on a clipboard. When Iām on machine A, I keep the clipboard on the seat of machine B. When Iām on B, I keep it on the seat of A. Some people do this with towels, water bottles, etc. You can even use both so as to limit walking back and forth to switch the clipboard. Kind of a meticulous process but I hope that helps.
Iāve been following this guy kinda in secret, and I gotta say I was impressed with his workout. I spent years getting out of the ectomorph framework (heck, now that my metabolism has slowed down, Iād like to have that back), and look forward to seeing how things go for him when he gets back.
Good job and come back safe!
The coaches said that he put on atleast 8lbs of muscle on in just over a month. thats like 1lb of muscle per week on avg.
From reading on T-Nation i always believed that it was only humanly possible to build a max of 0.5 lb of muscle per week.
i take it other weight like water / stores will be up as well. tho the coach did say muscleā¦ is that the same as lbm or just a generic term for weight gain excluding fat.
hope someone can clear that up for me.
[quote]redeyemikey wrote:
The coaches said that he put on atleast 8lbs of muscle on in just over a month. thats like 1lb of muscle per week on avg.
From reading on T-Nation i always believed that it was only humanly possible to build a max of 0.5 lb of muscle per week.
i take it other weight like water / stores will be up as well. tho the coach did say muscleā¦ is that the same as lbm or just a generic term for weight gain excluding fat.
hope someone can clear that up for me.
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The limit of 0.5lbs per week is for non-beginners. In the early stages of training, especially of proper training and eating it is possible to gain muscle at a faster pace, for a moderate period of time.
The āātheoreticalāā maximum amount of muscle that the human body can build in a whole year is 28-30lbs BUT muscle growth occurs in spurs, not in a linear fashion. When I mentioned the 0.5lbs/week limit it is averaged out over a whole year.
There will be some periods where it is possible to add 1-1.5 (even 2lbs) of muscle per week then you might not gain anything for 1-2 months before having a new growth spur.
I just now saw this and would like to say that your courage and sacrifice does not go unappreciated. Regardless of what anybody thinks itās people like you who allow people like me to live in what is still the greatest country in human history.
Keep your head up and before know it youāll be back to that wife of yours. Man how much we take for granted. Also, it was big of Biotest to waive the obligation for supps, good form.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
redeyemikey wrote:
The coaches said that he put on atleast 8lbs of muscle on in just over a month. thats like 1lb of muscle per week on avg.
From reading on T-Nation i always believed that it was only humanly possible to build a max of 0.5 lb of muscle per week.
i take it other weight like water / stores will be up as well. tho the coach did say muscleā¦ is that the same as lbm or just a generic term for weight gain excluding fat.
hope someone can clear that up for me.
The limit of 0.5lbs per week is for non-beginners. In the early stages of training, especially of proper training and eating it is possible to gain muscle at a faster pace, for a moderate period of time.
The āātheoreticalāā maximum amount of muscle that the human body can build in a whole year is 28-30lbs BUT muscle growth occurs in spurs, not in a linear fashion. When I mentioned the 0.5lbs/week limit it is averaged out over a whole year.
There will be some periods where it is possible to add 1-1.5 (even 2lbs) of muscle per week then you might not gain anything for 1-2 months before having a new growth spur.[/quote]
that is sickkkkā¦ 2lbs of muscle in a weekā¦ i think it would be extremely hard for me to add 2lbs of fat in a week.
but anywayz, thanks Thib for another coin in my wisdom tank.
Hey Trojan, out of all the Physique Clincs in this program yours was the only one I checked everyday for updates. I canāt even begin to count up all the information iāve gathered from your Clinic. Donāt be too disappointed that it ended too quickly, just focus on coming home safe.
Make us ectos proudā¦AGAIN!!
i dont know if this was already discussed and i missed it or what but why was there no calf work done in USCās programā¦or was it just that the workouts were going to change to incorporate them yet he just never made it that far?
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i dont know if this was already discussed and i missed it or what but why was there no calf work done in USCās programā¦or was it just that the workouts were going to change to incorporate them yet he just never made it that far?[/quote]
Probably the same reason why their isnt any forearm exercises. Being skinny, the main muscles need to be bulked up first, then start working the secondary muscles. Like working from from the center out. Its just what ive noticed from most skinny people workouts. Lots of squat, deadlift, and presses to start out. Then arm and leg curls. Eventualy leading to calf workouts once the foundation is set. Im no expert, just some info from what ive picked up.
[quote]Quinnthology wrote:
FedorE wrote:
Ive got a question for anyone.
I was looking ahead to the second workout plan and it consists of going back and forth between two lifts with 180seconds in between. At my gym, some of the equipment is a distance away from each other. How do I get around the problem of holding up two machines for so long? What do you guys recommend?
Well, either way you gotta realize youāre going to piss some people off. That being said, I print out my workouts and put them on a clipboard. When Iām on machine A, I keep the clipboard on the seat of machine B. When Iām on B, I keep it on the seat of A. Some people do this with towels, water bottles, etc. You can even use both so as to limit walking back and forth to switch the clipboard. Kind of a meticulous process but I hope that helps.[/quote]
Yeah, thatās how it is at my gym. Another thing Iāve found that really helps is to modify your days so they donāt correspond to the typical ābusyā gym days. Eveyone knows that Monday is national bench day, so avoid the chest/back day on then. Tuesday and Wednesday seem to be busy leg days at my gym, so I avoid working them. You get the idea. Basically my workout starts on Thursday with chest/back, Friday legs, off Saturday, Sunday arms, off Monday, Tuesday shoulders, off Wednesday. Keeps me from having to deal with the douche bags on the busy days.
thanks for the feedback guys
I have found a little tip with downing those whey and recovery shakes(the Metabolic Drive milk chocolate shakes taste awesome). I think the Grow! Whey and Recovery shakes are gross and I use gatorade with them. All I do is sip a little gatorade before and after the shake and it removes almost all bad taste. Just a little sip before and a little sip afterward is enough sugar to takeover your tastebuds. One small gatorade bottle will last two weeks.
Honestly, this is just a hick up in his training. Its the Airforce for cying out loud. He will have a life support package waiting for him at the new base and yes that will include a kick ass gym and full internet connection. Not to mentioned very satisfying meals at a very cozy mess hall. In fact if he REALLY wanted to he could continue this PC and probably make the greatest gains of his life. - Go ARMY
He could still train no doubt, but being able to follow the diet would be impossible. You can eat all the food you want over there, but the quality leaves a little to be desired. Quality protein sources are pretty hard to come byā¦and no patty melts everyday donāt count.
they need to find a new fucking Ecto ASAP or CT should write up a training guide specifically for Ectos since weāve had 2 in the Physique Clinic and 2 that havent even made it to more advanced workouts yet. which really sucks when you want to follow along.
Yea I believe Thibs has mentioned the ecto-specific article several times now but its wasnāt up to him as when it gets posted. Hopefully sooner than later now.