[quote]andruw_doucette wrote:
So whats the plan for the Clinic now? Accepting new applicants or just pulling from the old stash?[/quote]
I think it’ll be a mix of both.
I’m with the rest in saying that I hope CT and Shug pick a really ecto mofo. bizarre was small in comparison to the other participants, but I didn’t think he was an ecto by far.
Shame as i’m an ecto and although wouldn’t follow this to the letter was looking forward to the gains or lack of based on his program.
Why people hide, lie or don’t own upto things like medical conditions when being considered for this is beyond me.
The time and work that the coaches have put in goes unrewarded.
Someone better suited to this who really wants it will still be out there continuing to work out with the same misguided uninformed routine and diet whereas they could have had real benefit from this.
Unlucky.
Who are you to attack me? I dont appreciate your judgement and your superior attitude towards me because you “portray yourself to be bigger” This is a ecto PC. You cannot identify with what we go through, just as I cannot identify with being a 300lb big, tub of lard, such as yourself. I see alot of your comments on “rate my physique” and I notice NO ONE RESPONDS to you. Dont you get the hint - you hold no credibility. Your a poser. Bring your boring comments some place else and let us ectos figure it out. If you like you can PM me and I will refer you to some great self help books about self esteem for the chronic obese.
[quote]u_mombooto wrote:
Sure, and making tweaks based on your copying the program this guy is given is what will make or break your progress, considering you have made so much progress already you need to apply the finishing touches and win the NPC Southern states.
You’re making me laugh, little man and I’ll give you credit for that. Lets continue this by PM, so you can continue to amuse me.
linnear0035 wrote:
Hey, thanks for your glib comment but allow me to retort - I am a serious minded athlete so dont tell me to cool my jets. Maybe you need to get inspired and demand excellence from yourself and accountability from others. NEWS FLASH - he needs to post so we can see the complete workout and diet and any changes that may occur so we can adjust our workouts accordingly.
u_mombooto wrote:
Can you be any more obvious, linnear0035? What are you, some jealous fourth-grader?
Even if he’s kicked off the program its not like you’re next in line to replace him. So cool your jets. He’ll post when he can, and if thats not good enough, the “powers that be” will decide to drop the kid.
linnear0035 wrote:
USCTrojan619 wrote:
Just so I’m getting this right since this certain PC is so hard to follow:
Monday=Back/Traps
Tuesday=Legs
Wednesday=Off
Thursday=Chest/Biceps
Friday=Off
Saturday=Shoulders/Triceps
Sunday=Off
Is that right? And we just repeat the workouts until CT switches it up?
I think you are correct and I thank you for posting this. I am having a very hard time following this thread due to his lack of consistency and detail. The idea is to keep us posted when CT changes the work out and diet - but don’t count on Andy to let you know.
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[quote]linnear0035 wrote:
Who are you to attack me? I dont appreciate your judgement and your superior attitude towards me because you “portray yourself to be bigger” This is a ecto PC. You cannot identify with what we go through, just as I cannot identify with being a 300lb big, tub of lard, such as yourself. I see alot of your comments on “rate my physique” and I notice NO ONE RESPONDS to you. Dont you get the hint - you hold no credibility. Your a poser. Bring your boring comments some place else and let us ectos figure it out. If you like you can PM me and I will refer you to some great self help books about self esteem for the chronic obese.
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Dude, fuck off. You came into this thread with a pathetically negative attitude to begin with. u_mombooto made a valid point when calling you out on your shit talking and I, personally, couldn’t agree with him more.
If you ARE such a “serious minded athlete” then your time would be better spent READING and figuring out what works for you instead of whining that you can’t get the complete details of a program designed with someone else in mind.
And what is up with you obsessing over this kids body type? He was an “ecto” who only ate 2000 kcal a day! Most people here use that much energy blowing out shits from bigger meals. Hardly enough calories there to justify having a hard time putting on weight. Basing what you should be doing off of what this kid needs to do is just silly.
If you spent half as much time reading the Authors’ Locker Room posts and the article archives as you do whining, you would have your shit together by now. Quit waiting for others to spoon-feed you information and go out and get it the way successful lifters do - through independent research and a helluva lot of trial-and-error.
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
ourmoney wrote:
HotCarl28 wrote:
what a fucking pussy… and an ungrateful cock… u get fucking two great coaches and unlimited supplements… suck a dick kid… thanks for wasting everyone’s time with ur half-assery
i agree man!
Everyone already ran him out of the Physique Clinic, so he opened up the slot for someone else. That’s better than just giving up and disappearing. His thread is over so why don’t you leave him alone? There’s nothing left to accomplish by harassing the guy.
The assignment about toxic people by Shugs perfectly describes about half of this thread, mad and jealous he got something. He screwed up, and great people have made mistakes. His stepped aside his spot so just let him be.
Man there are some real assholes here…Leave him alone. So it didn’t work out for him. Not everybody is cut out for it. He tried, he failed, many more will fail. Most of the “haters” would likely fail too.
Good luck to you Bizarre…This is just a set back, never give up. You can hit your goals. It just time to move on.
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Both of u make invalid arguments… let me explain
there is in fact something to accomplish by continuing to harass him… one it proves the initial claim that u will be humiliated if u drop out (Thibs mentioned this i believe in most if not all teh threads) so they knew it was coming… to not do it would be like saying hey if u steal that ur going to jail and then not punishing the person once they committed the crime… perhaps this harassment will kick him in the ass and make him realize what a waste he is
secondly and more importantly it serves as an example to what will happen if someone new decides to join and drops out…perhaps because they dont want to be ridiculed they will try harder
great ppl have made mistakes? what does this mean… they weren’t ridiculed for it… terrible point
“most of the haters would fail too” you make the assumption that all of the “haters” have signed up for the physique clinic… i personally have not… whether or not the haters would fail is irrelevant unless they too have signed up for the clinic… when u sign up u make a commitment… if this kid was busy with school and had a pre-existing medical condition… maybe he shoulda realized he couldn’t do this
still the thing that bothers me the most is that ppl are cutting him slack for this “medical condition”… how naive are u ppl… (what goes through bizarres mind)
"well i wanna quit but everyone is gonna call me a big pussy, and thibs is gonna be pissed i wasted his time. i wonder what i can do to take the heat off me. Oh wait i can say i have a medical condition… that will alleviate me from responsibility and ppl will feel bad ridiculing me because its something i can’t help. Yahtzee!!! "
Beyond that even if he does have a medical condition especially one that can obviously affect his trainig … dont u think he should have mentioned this… in this case he is still a douche who purposefully withheld relevant information in order to get picked
in closing bizarre u are still a cocksucker in my book… plz dont let these holier than thou internet crusaders raise ur spirit, u failed, and u did so with no integrity or class, u failed miserably, u wasted everyone’s time and u know it, do not convince urself otherwise, u failed, u failed hard, u tried and remained the scrawny ecto that u have always been, ppl say its ok but everyone has been utterly unimpressed by the meager effort that compliments ur meager phsyique… it must suck to know that even with all the help in the world u still couldn’t do it… u disgust me… u failed
good luck in the future
Use of valgarity is a sign of a weak kind - which you have so eloquently demonstrated. I was interested in this PC because CT had mentioned an interesting point about ecto training, which I am. He states that we should not be doing more than 2 - 3 sets per exercise, to do more would raise cortisol levels and hinder growth. That sparked my interest but Bizarre’s lack of posts made it difficult to follow the whole routine. Sounds like you are “all knowing”, so tell me what was the full routine that CT prescribed along with the diet for the entire clinic.
No answer…that is why I pushed the kid to post I wanted to know the entire work out, just like the rest of the people on this board. If you found a good routine then all the best - but I am always open to more knowledge.
[quote]conner wrote:
linnear0035 wrote:
Who are you to attack me? I dont appreciate your judgement and your superior attitude towards me because you “portray yourself to be bigger” This is a ecto PC. You cannot identify with what we go through, just as I cannot identify with being a 300lb big, tub of lard, such as yourself. I see alot of your comments on “rate my physique” and I notice NO ONE RESPONDS to you. Dont you get the hint - you hold no credibility. Your a poser. Bring your boring comments some place else and let us ectos figure it out. If you like you can PM me and I will refer you to some great self help books about self esteem for the chronic obese.
Dude, fuck off. You came into this thread with a pathetically negative attitude to begin with. u_mombooto made a valid point when calling you out on your shit talking and I, personally, couldn’t agree with him more.
If you ARE such a “serious minded athlete” then your time would be better spent READING and figuring out what works for you instead of whining that you can’t get the complete details of a program designed with someone else in mind.
And what is up with you obsessing over this kids body type? He was an “ecto” who only ate 2000 kcal a day! Most people here use that much energy blowing out shits from bigger meals. Hardly enough calories there to justify having a hard time putting on weight. Basing what you should be doing off of what this kid needs to do is just silly.
If you spent half as much time reading the Authors’ Locker Room posts and the article archives as you do whining, you would have your shit together by now. Quit waiting for others to spoon-feed you information and go out and get it the way successful lifters do - through independent research and a helluva lot of trial-and-error.[/quote]
Ok well this isn’t my thread but let’s stop the pissing match.
Everyone let’s face it, there are many worse things Linnear could be doing than following a workout and diet designed by CT for his body type.
While I wouldn’t suggest following it to a “T” since you may respond better to more carbs, or other variables it is certainly an excellent starting point.
How many of us started off following the workouts and diets of the Pro bodybuilders we read about in the magazines? I know I did. Turns out they were only meant for genetic freaks on heavy steroid use, so I didn’t make any progress for almost 2 years.
Either way he is clearly learning, at least he is reading what one of the best authors on here is writing!
Anyone remember the article about Toxic people?
Wow; this is too much hostility for the INTERWEB.
That’s all it is guys; the world wide web. Stop your whining please.
Good luck Bizzare, I just got out of college not too long ago and my workouts came second and I’m better for that.
Now I can focus more on getting bigger, stronger, faster…
wow way to crap all over this thread. Anyway back to what we are actually here for, i did the leg routine last night and almost passed out. I did quattro dynamo a couple of weeks ago and that was nothing compared to this. Is it meant to be THAT hard?? how do you know if your overtraining on this routine??
fobzy: in my experience (and brush with overtraining), I classified it like this:
“If I feel like shit for hours after my training session, for 3 workouts in a row or more, I’m probably overtraining”.
Now I classify “shit” in this sense like this:
This has happened to me, and it was due to too much training and being too rough with myself nutrition-wise – I thought I could make up for almost no carbs, with just excessive BCAA usage. It worked, for a while…
Anyway, I guessed I was overtraining, was advised to take a week off training, and that seemed to do the trick. I’m certain if I hadn’t stopped after only 3 workouts where this happened, I would have entered really overtrained state, which I don’t want to find out more about!
Hope this helps!
thanks for the info steinnes
after last nights leg workout I still feel like this!
im also so tired and i slept for 8 1/2 hours. I just dont understand this routine - i did something like 70 squats! im thinking i might just move to a more conventional routine
fobzy: If you feel this way after every workout, I would think about the following:
Are you eating enough? (My main error was that I was training too hard while dieting, and ignored the advice of more experienced friends, in doing so).
Are you going too heavy? 70 reps for a large compound movement like the squat is going to be very taxing. I don’t think I’ve ever done more than 40-50 total reps for one exercise in one session. And that would be well out of the ordinary for me.
If I were you, I wouldn’t give up on this program so quickly though, I would just take a few days to rest and eat. Then give the program another try with the two variables above in better check.
I’m guessing you’re an ecto (I vaguely recall you saying so earlier on this thread), so I will highly emphasize the EATING 
I’m on week 2 of the program and just finished the leg workout for the second time.
It’s extremely taxing and I feel nauseous every time I do it, but that’s fine, I actually enjoy the pain.
I’ve been eating a good amount of carbs and taking in about 4k calories per day and have been making solid progress and quick recovery.
I’m supplementing with fish oil, whey, bcaa’s, and creatine.
thanks for the help guys. Yeah steinnes my eating isnt great but its getting better. I was probably a bit heavy on the weights but i get like that. Im guessing im an ecto because all my life ive been the skinny kid and i can out eat anyone i know lol.
scream just curious but how long did you spend at the gym for that session? also i was doing it right and there are that many reps of sqauts etc?
i may stick with it for the whole week and see how i am
And incorrect spelling is not usually a sign of a rich intellect. But I digress. As a 300 pound tub of lard with high body fat ~20%, all I can say is: how does a “serious minded athlete” like you with at least a year of training under his belt not know “ectos” have low work capacity compared to “endos” and “mesos”. And if you don’t have much training under your belt (or ANYTHING worth mentioning under your belt I suspect) why don’t you follow a program here instead of waiting for CT to unravel the mysteries of building muscle?
Now, the battle between a 300 pound tub of lard and a 150 pound bag of bones will continue via PM. Sorry again everyone.
[quote]linnear0035 wrote:
Use of valgarity is a sign of a weak kind - which you have so eloquently demonstrated. I was interested in this PC because CT had mentioned an interesting point about ecto training, which I am. He states that we should not be doing more than 2 - 3 sets per exercise, to do more would raise cortisol levels and hinder growth. That sparked my interest but Bizarre’s lack of posts made it difficult to follow the whole routine. Sounds like you are “all knowing”, so tell me what was the full routine that CT prescribed along with the diet for the entire clinic.
No answer…that is why I pushed the kid to post I wanted to know the entire work out, just like the rest of the people on this board. If you found a good routine then all the best - but I am always open to more knowledge.
conner wrote:
linnear0035 wrote:
Who are you to attack me? I dont appreciate your judgement and your superior attitude towards me because you “portray yourself to be bigger” This is a ecto PC. You cannot identify with what we go through, just as I cannot identify with being a 300lb big, tub of lard, such as yourself. I see alot of your comments on “rate my physique” and I notice NO ONE RESPONDS to you. Dont you get the hint - you hold no credibility. Your a poser. Bring your boring comments some place else and let us ectos figure it out. If you like you can PM me and I will refer you to some great self help books about self esteem for the chronic obese.
Dude, fuck off. You came into this thread with a pathetically negative attitude to begin with. u_mombooto made a valid point when calling you out on your shit talking and I, personally, couldn’t agree with him more.
If you ARE such a “serious minded athlete” then your time would be better spent READING and figuring out what works for you instead of whining that you can’t get the complete details of a program designed with someone else in mind.
And what is up with you obsessing over this kids body type? He was an “ecto” who only ate 2000 kcal a day! Most people here use that much energy blowing out shits from bigger meals. Hardly enough calories there to justify having a hard time putting on weight. Basing what you should be doing off of what this kid needs to do is just silly.
If you spent half as much time reading the Authors’ Locker Room posts and the article archives as you do whining, you would have your shit together by now. Quit waiting for others to spoon-feed you information and go out and get it the way successful lifters do - through independent research and a helluva lot of trial-and-error.
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Hey guys,
If I wanted to increase the caloric intake for the diet outlined for bizarre, is it best to add a scoop to the Metabolic Drive shakes, or to increase the ounces of chicken/turkey/shrimp???
I’m only looking for a jump of 300-500 right now, and not 1000.
[quote]fobzy wrote:
scream just curious but how long did you spend at the gym for that session? also i was doing it right and there are that many reps of sqauts etc?
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Roughly an hour and 10 minutes
I wish my muscles were as big as the ego’s of some people on this threads.lol
i think the quicker they find a new candidate the better.
[quote]A_l3x wrote:
I wish my muscles were as big as the ego’s of some people on this threads.lol
i think the quicker they find a new candidate the better.[/quote]
I concur. I’ve been reading the site for over a year now and have read almost every article and a good 50% of them twice. At work I had nothing better to do but read this site. This thread is exactly why I don’t bother with the forums though, or any forums on any site for that matter. It would be nice to see an example of an ecto who put some mass on, and it’s disappointing it we gotta wait now. Does anyone know if you can submit twice, I didn’t edit my first one as much as I would have liked.
[quote]HotCarl28 wrote:
hockechamp14 wrote:
ourmoney wrote:
HotCarl28 wrote:
what a fucking pussy… and an ungrateful cock… u get fucking two great coaches and unlimited supplements… suck a dick kid… thanks for wasting everyone’s time with ur half-assery
i agree man!
Everyone already ran him out of the Physique Clinic, so he opened up the slot for someone else. That’s better than just giving up and disappearing. His thread is over so why don’t you leave him alone? There’s nothing left to accomplish by harassing the guy.
The assignment about toxic people by Shugs perfectly describes about half of this thread, mad and jealous he got something. He screwed up, and great people have made mistakes. His stepped aside his spot so just let him be.
Man there are some real assholes here…Leave him alone. So it didn’t work out for him. Not everybody is cut out for it. He tried, he failed, many more will fail. Most of the “haters” would likely fail too.
Good luck to you Bizarre…This is just a set back, never give up. You can hit your goals. It just time to move on.
Both of u make invalid arguments… let me explain
there is in fact something to accomplish by continuing to harass him… one it proves the initial claim that u will be humiliated if u drop out (Thibs mentioned this i believe in most if not all teh threads) so they knew it was coming… to not do it would be like saying hey if u steal that ur going to jail and then not punishing the person once they committed the crime… perhaps this harassment will kick him in the ass and make him realize what a waste he is
secondly and more importantly it serves as an example to what will happen if someone new decides to join and drops out…perhaps because they dont want to be ridiculed they will try harder
great ppl have made mistakes? what does this mean… they weren’t ridiculed for it… terrible point
“most of the haters would fail too” you make the assumption that all of the “haters” have signed up for the physique clinic… i personally have not… whether or not the haters would fail is irrelevant unless they too have signed up for the clinic… when u sign up u make a commitment… if this kid was busy with school and had a pre-existing medical condition… maybe he shoulda realized he couldn’t do this
still the thing that bothers me the most is that ppl are cutting him slack for this “medical condition”… how naive are u ppl… (what goes through bizarres mind)
"well i wanna quit but everyone is gonna call me a big pussy, and thibs is gonna be pissed i wasted his time. i wonder what i can do to take the heat off me. Oh wait i can say i have a medical condition… that will alleviate me from responsibility and ppl will feel bad ridiculing me because its something i can’t help. Yahtzee!!! "
Beyond that even if he does have a medical condition especially one that can obviously affect his trainig … dont u think he should have mentioned this… in this case he is still a douche who purposefully withheld relevant information in order to get picked
in closing bizarre u are still a cocksucker in my book… plz dont let these holier than thou internet crusaders raise ur spirit, u failed, and u did so with no integrity or class, u failed miserably, u wasted everyone’s time and u know it, do not convince urself otherwise, u failed, u failed hard, u tried and remained the scrawny ecto that u have always been, ppl say its ok but everyone has been utterly unimpressed by the meager effort that compliments ur meager phsyique… it must suck to know that even with all the help in the world u still couldn’t do it… u disgust me… u failed
good luck in the future
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I am surprised more people arnt taking thsi stance. Im really really fuckin surprised that ANYONE is giving him an sympathy. He signed up, committed himself for 3 months, and lasted 3 weeks. That right there is FUCKING pathetic. It becoms very obvious why some people are the way they are, either small or fat, when they not only condone, but APPLAUDE this type of behavior.
good run? whoever said this makes me wonder. A good run for you is 3 weeks? wow that is fuckin stunning. 3 weeks is about what it takes to gain .11 pounds of muscle. So maybe you are correct. GREAT run bizzare! you had all the possible help at the foot of your door, two of the worlds greatest coaches, one of the highest quality supplement comapanys SPONSERSHIP, and you last…3 weeks.
How long do you last on your own? There is nothin remotly impressive or encourging about his run. He should feel like a douche for wasting thib and shugarts time, and anyone who followed his portion of the physique clinic.
What do you teach people by applauding there failure? this is testosterone nation, not commend the weak minded-nation. I am in 4th year finals and managed to accomplish Poliquin’s super accumulation program, with only myself to rely on. This guy had everything and didnt last 3 weeks. Fuckin rediculous.
This only goes to further my belief that you can give someone the best diet, the best training, surround them with the best people…but its only yourself who decides what gets accomplished.
again fuckin sickening