Question about supplementation.
Are you taking the HRX WITH breakfast and… supper, like you’re posting? On the bottle it recommends on an empty stomach. I’m wondering how you make that work.
-Otep
[quote]Bartl wrote:
If you are looking to design a new program, check out the one I am currently on. Its not to heavy but definitely challenging. You are super setting a muscle group followed my a metabolic thrashing with band work. CT wrote a huge article about on my main thread. Check it out, will definitely help.
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If you please, what page is the article on?
[quote]Otep wrote:
Question about supplementation.
Are you taking the HRX WITH breakfast and… supper, like you’re posting? On the bottle it recommends on an empty stomach. I’m wondering how you make that work.
-Otep[/quote]
Great question. I don’t actually take it with the meals per se, but rather that time period. For example, I take the HRX first thing when I wake up in the morning, around 7 am. I don’t usually eat until after 8 am. So by that time, I’ve already walked to work, then I eat at my desk as I stare at my computer screen watching the market drop like Brittany’s underwear.
What I have been doing lately for the second dosing, is taking 30 minutes prior to my workout. So its not on a completely empty stomach, but enough to where once I start warming up I can feel it kicking in.
The best is in the morning though, when I do my walks to work. I am usually in dress clothes and am happy that I have on an undershirt when I walk through the door.
[quote]downintucson wrote:
Bartl wrote:
If you are looking to design a new program, check out the one I am currently on. Its not to heavy but definitely challenging. You are super setting a muscle group followed my a metabolic thrashing with band work. CT wrote a huge article about on my main thread. Check it out, will definitely help.
If you please, what page is the article on?
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21 about halfway down.
BTW, love your avatar.
Thanks guys.
GJ
I have a question about your new diet, specifically the T/Th/Sat/Sunday diet.
Do you find yourself hungry on these days so far? It would seem without the workout included (the peri-workout nutrition), there isn’t enough calories. By my count, it only looks like around 1300 calories, without the workout drinks. I’m counting meal 1 (tomatoes, apple, shake), meal 2 (chicken, mixed veg), meal 3 (shrimp, lettuce), meal 4 (shake, mixed veg), and meal 5 (salmon, mixed veg). Am I missing a meal?
Obviously those of us not in the Physique Clinic are using other peri-workout stuff. I’m following Thib’s recommendation from the “Refined Physique Transformation” article, which is around 550 calories (counting the amino’s as proteins). If you include that, the total goes up to around 1850 calories, which while still low, I think is much more likely to last throughout the day.
I know he already answered a question about the theory behind alternating the high fat and low fat days in his locker thread. But I’m just wondering if maybe he has you working out T/Th/Sat, and is leaving room for your cheat meal on Sun.
[quote]wilsonj wrote:
I have a question about your new diet, specifically the T/Th/Sat/Sunday diet.
Do you find yourself hungry on these days so far? It would seem without the workout included (the peri-workout nutrition), there isn’t enough calories. By my count, it only looks like around 1300 calories, without the workout drinks. I’m counting meal 1 (tomatoes, apple, shake), meal 2 (chicken, mixed veg), meal 3 (shrimp, lettuce), meal 4 (shake, mixed veg), and meal 5 (salmon, mixed veg). Am I missing a meal?
Obviously those of us not in the Physique Clinic are using other peri-workout stuff. I’m following Thib’s recommendation from the “Refined Physique Transformation” article, which is around 550 calories (counting the amino’s as proteins). If you include that, the total goes up to around 1850 calories, which while still low, I think is much more likely to last throughout the day.
I know he already answered a question about the theory behind alternating the high fat and low fat days in his locker thread. But I’m just wondering if maybe he has you working out T/Th/Sat, and is leaving room for your cheat meal on Sun.[/quote]
Those are great questions and I will try and answer them if I can.
No you are not missing a meal. Remember, the only day’s that I am not training are Thursday and Sunday, and I was hungry all day yesterday. Instead of eating every two hours because the the workout drinks, I was eating every three hours. Then because of hockey, I went seven hours between meals! Trust me, by the time I got done playing and got in my car, my stomach was screaming at me.
When I woke up this morning, I was so hungry that I think I ate the eggs in about three bites. lol.
So really are we are talking about are reduced calorie days on Thursday and Sunday.
As for the total nutrient count, I am not sure exactly. Normally when he sends me my plan it comes with the protein, fat and carb breakdown per meal and totals for the day. This time he didn’t. I know he has been busy but I’m not gonna nag him for the details.
Interesting. I suppose the low-fat days are generally low in calories because what else can you add? You already have all the protein in them, and want to keep the carbs down, and the fat. Nothing left that can be added.
I guess that’s why he called this the max fat loss phase.
[quote]wilsonj wrote:
Interesting. I suppose the low-fat days are generally low in calories because what else can you add? You already have all the protein in them, and want to keep the carbs down, and the fat. Nothing left that can be added.
I guess that’s why he called this the max fat loss phase.[/quote]
I guess so. I just do what he tells me to do. He’s the expert and I trust him with everything.
[quote]Bartl wrote:
You’re my boy blue![/quote]
Dust in the wind… all we are is dust in the wind
[quote]Bartl wrote:
21 about halfway down.
BTW, love your avatar.[/quote]
Can’t believe what I did. I scrolled down and saw your question to coach Thib about which bands to use and figured the article must have been posted previous to your post. So I started searching thru page 20, then 19, then 18. When I got to page 15 I knew I had gone too far so I started back up thru page 16, 17 and stopped when I got page 20. What a dumbass I am.
As I explained to another T-member, I wanted an avatar that showed the intellectual side of me. Beer and cleavage seemed appropriate.
I know you’ve read it a million times already, but congratulations on your progress. Can’t wait to see the photos 20 pounds from now.
[quote] From the PC thread…
Here is what I like to call “It’s going to hurt to poop tomorrow…again… Leg training session #2”:[/quote]
Ain’t that the truth! When my legs get thrashed, the best I can do is go down toward the toilet under power until my upper legs are at about 45-degrees. Then, I fall the rest of the way under gravity with as much lateral control as I can manage. Occasionally, my balls get caught between one leg and the toilet seat. It’s never a hard enough hit to cause damage. But, it sure wakes you up!
[quote]downintucson wrote:
Bartl wrote:
21 about halfway down.
BTW, love your avatar.
Can’t believe what I did. I scrolled down and saw your question to coach Thib about which bands to use and figured the article must have been posted previous to your post. So I started searching thru page 20, then 19, then 18. When I got to page 15 I knew I had gone too far so I started back up thru page 16, 17 and stopped when I got page 20. What a dumbass I am.
As I explained to another T-member, I wanted an avatar that showed the intellectual side of me. Beer and cleavage seemed appropriate.
I know you’ve read it a million times already, but congratulations on your progress. Can’t wait to see the photos 20 pounds from now.
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As someone who is part German, I must say that it is my duty to be at Oktoberfest in Munich at some point in my life. I have been to Munich before and it is f-ing amazing.
[quote]jgundrey wrote:
From the PC thread…
Here is what I like to call “It’s going to hurt to poop tomorrow…again… Leg training session #2”:
Ain’t that the truth! When my legs get thrashed, the best I can do is go down toward the toilet under power until my upper legs are at about 45-degrees. Then, I fall the rest of the way under gravity with as much lateral control as I can manage. Occasionally, my balls get caught between one leg and the toilet seat. It’s never a hard enough hit to cause damage. But, it sure wakes you up![/quote]
Never hit my balls before, prolly because I usually use the handicap stalls to lower myself instead of falling.
Hey Bartl! I just saw your pics and you have my admiration, especially as I had doubts that you would last, but you did! I am not sure what is up with Novareg, however…
I recently ordered the Metabolic Drive and Grow! Whey proteins and they taste as good as you said.
Good luck on your date!
[quote]eventhewaves wrote:
Hey Bartl! I just saw your pics and you have my admiration, especially as I had doubts that you would last, but you did! I am not sure what is up with Novareg, however…
I recently ordered the Metabolic Drive and Whey Grow! proteins and they taste as good as you said.
Good luck on your date![/quote]
Thanks man, I appreciate the confidence. I canceled the date because I found out she wasn’t exactly a truthful person. Lets just leave it at that.
Anyways, now that you got the protein, try a scoop of peanut butter with the vanilla…mmmm good.
Hey Bart -
I re-read your entire clinic last night (yeah, I know, rich social life, eh?) and I’m again amazed at the great stuff the coaches have “spilled” over the course of the last few weeks. It was not hard at all to duplicate pretty much your entire program 
I’m starting the same diet tomorrow. I’m a little worried about missing food, but after (again) reading the bits about losing the fat first and adding the muscle later I’ve decided to just do the 28 days and be done with it. I’d have to say it’s worked pretty well for you and Gus.
I know you’re not divulging any specific program data directly, but I was hoping you could answer a fairly simple question - has CT been giving you “explicit” routines, or have you been presented a list of exercises you can build from? I also want to try to duplicate some of the routines that you and Gus have followed, but my access to equipment is limited. How much leeway for improv have you been given? I know you’ve asked CT about a couple exercises and he gave you alternates…
That’s a shame about your dog - have you thought about giving her fish oil / glucosamine & chondroitin? I believe it’s pretty common in arthritic conditions, might help with the ACL stuff too.
Don
Oh - and are you lifting 4 days a week, or only 3?
Looking good man!! It’s just camera angle that makes you look like that…The stats tell the truth too. Got a couple questions:
I started a similar workout to u today onward…Did Chest/Biceps and cardio…(instead of chest/tri’s). How long does your workout take you? not incl cardio. Also, do you complete 6 sets of the Delts workout??
GJ
[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Looking good man!! It’s just camera angle that makes you look like that…The stats tell the truth too. Got a couple questions:
I started a similar workout to u today onward…Did Chest/Biceps and cardio…(instead of chest/tri’s). How long does your workout take you? not incl cardio. Also, do you complete 6 sets of the Delts workout??
GJ[/quote]
Not including cardio, right around 2 hours or so
and yes, for for shoulders, I did do 6 total sets.