A short question which is inspired by a friend of mine.
I know that getting bigger and loosing fat is a tricky cat and that reps and volume is always relative and that the main result of the gained mass is caused by eating enough.
So far so god, but when you are on a fat loss diet and you train in the “hypertrophy zone” and you get constantly stronger but NOT bigger,why are you getting stronger? With typical paramters like 3x8-10 you don´t train the cns/intrarmuscular coordination.
You get stronger cause of the sarcoplasmatic and / or myofibrill hypertrophy.thats a physiological fact.
Can someone explain this contradiction to me? From “where” comes then the improved strength?
failed facts:
no such thing as hypertrophy zone, just weight
no such thing as not training the cns to move weights more efficiently (try doing sets of 10 pushups. your form will get better assuming you focus. thats CNS/intramuscular coordination) do the previous consistently, say for like 10x10, you have high volume training.
in the end, the strength is a physiological adaptation to a muscular stressor. if your losing fat, your probably also working out more, more stress=the bodies desire to maximize muscle and use the fat for fuel. its like your asking whether ronnie coleman, when he’s squatting 800 weeks before the olympia, whether he’s using sarcoplasmic hypertrophy or his CNS to lift the weight.
and further, your not as strong as you lift, depending on your mood and how stressed you are, you strength levels vary. imagine you a bodybuilding lion. you’ve had a bunch to eat the last few months, you dont know your bodyfat but your about a size 12 shoe. suddenly, all the gazelle leave and another male lion invades your turf. now your droppin weight, but your also chasing this other cat around. since your all like “fuck this dude imma kill him” your faster than usual, even though your losing some weight. eventually though, if our lion goes to long without proper nutrition (600g’s protein a day) he will lose strength
According to one prominent T-Nation contributor, Paul Check, it actually comes from your inner Chi by utilizing your yin and yang, not playing with your wang, and staying away from sugar cane - oh, and nuts.
Some form of optimisation of the somatic nervous system, specifically, I have no idea. Probably increases in action potential frequency. The golgi tendon organ probably adapts which could make a noticeable difference. Maybe simply anaerobic pathway adaptations could allow for more reps at the same weight (more likely to be a contributing factor than actually allowing you to lift more, these are all just ideas). Lifting technique improvements will be a factor too. Or it could just be magic.
WRT hypertrophy zone: I don’t see why your body would not make adaptations to optimise force production, just because of the number of repetitions you perform, unless you’re only doing sets of like 30+ reps.
wrong, wrong, wrong, and i don’t even care enough to muster up a post about it. just go train man, don’t overanalyze it, who cares where it comes from…if your gaining strength, losing fat…great. does it really matter where it’s coming from? You can lose fat, train high frequency, low volume, and still make strength gains.
In fact a lot of guys using that Pavel method of greasing the groove will get GREAT strength gains but for the most part they won’t gain very much weight/muscle. It’s just neuromuscular coordination and blah blah blah. Anwyays like PX said I don’t have a BS in biology although I’ve read a lot of things and to me it’s just research and just something I came across…for the most part though your gonna be a lost dog if you boggle your mind over these small things, and ultimately your gains will suffer.
[quote]mmllcc wrote:
According to one prominent T-Nation contributor, Paul Check, it actually comes from your inner Chi by utilizing your yin and yang, not playing with your wang, and staying away from sugar cane - oh, and nuts.[/quote]
We’ve run a couple of interviews with Paul, but he’s never been a contributor.
[quote]mmllcc wrote:
According to one prominent T-Nation contributor, Paul Check, it actually comes from your inner Chi by utilizing your yin and yang, not playing with your wang, and staying away from sugar cane - oh, and nuts.[/quote]
Per inspiration from Paul Chek, I added reps to my squat tonight by lighting candles around the squat rack, mind melding with a butterfly, and sacrificing a cabbage.
[quote]mmllcc wrote:
According to one prominent T-Nation contributor, Paul Check, it actually comes from your inner Chi by utilizing your yin and yang, not playing with your wang, and staying away from sugar cane - oh, and nuts.[/quote]
Per inspiration from Paul Chek, I added reps to my squat tonight by lighting candles around the squat rack, mind melding with a butterfly, and sacrificing a cabbage.[/quote]
What kind of butterfly? I tried a Monarch and lost 10 reps.
[quote]mmllcc wrote:
According to one prominent T-Nation contributor, Paul Check, it actually comes from your inner Chi by utilizing your yin and yang, not playing with your wang, and staying away from sugar cane - oh, and nuts.[/quote]
Per inspiration from Paul Chek, I added reps to my squat tonight by lighting candles around the squat rack, mind melding with a butterfly, and sacrificing a cabbage .[/quote]