[quote]Depression Boy wrote:
Any numbers you can throw up on your leg lifts: squat, DL, Hack Squat?
Or do you prefer the leg press to squatting movements (as I suspect)
[quote]Tatsu wrote:
This is my progress up untill last week.
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I’m happy with the way it’s going, slow and steady. =)[/quote]
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Sure no problem! Let me get my logbook.
Squat: ATG 120KG low bar for 8 reps at the moment.
DL (end of last year):200KG x 3
Trap bar DL (end of last year): 215KGx6
Trap bar DL from a 3cm deficit: 190KGx7
I do prefer the legpress more than the squat, what did it give away?
Don’t get me wrong I like the squat and all it’s variations, but the legpress gives me better control and better results.
But I do have a hate/love relationship with the squat, after several years of experimenting I’ve found a my stance and prefer low bar over high bar.
My DC rotation for legs is as follows:
B1. Quads: Paused full squats, as for the widowmaker normal squats. Hams: Bent knee good morning
B2. Hams: leg curls. Quads: deficit trap bar deadlifts and for the widowmakers trap bar deadlifts just below the knee.
B3. Hams: sumo legpress. Quads + widowmaker: smith front squats
[quote]pwolves17 wrote:
Great work man, I think staying relatively lean year round is the best bet for natties, obviously depending on goals. Work on improving your metabolic capacity so you can maintain on a higher caloric intake :)[/quote]
Thanks! =D Also for the tip! I’m doing a lot more conditioning on rest days, it also really helps with recomping.
I recognize the “former dreamerbulker” type Lots of focus on lat pulldowns, shrugs, curls and leg presses, they usually love dumbbell presses more than barbell bench because they can “feel it better in the chest”, generally low strength numbers (especially in lower body movements) Not to mention you threw up plenty of upperbody pics (since you can flare your lats easily and have wide clavicles to boot) but relatively few leg pics, and even fewer lift numbers in general.
In general, you shouldn’t be gaining large amounts of weight as a natural unless you’re willing to put in the effort to move some serious weight on the basic lifts, and that INCLUDES squatting. The leg press while a fine movement should not be a staple for a natural who’s putting on some serious weight. If you’re doing a “lean mass gain” or “recomp” or whatever the cool kids call it these days, then fine, dont squat.
Finally, look man, if you have a 270x8 squat and a 440 DL after all these years of training I think you know quite well you didnt really get strong enough to have gained much if any solid bodyweight during your “bulk”. Luckily you are blessed with wide clavicles and store fat somewhat evenly. The bad news is you have WAYYY less muscle than you think youre carrying at this point. And I think you know that. Just keep on keeping on, but make sure you focus on progression.
Good luck, bro.
[quote]Tatsu wrote:
[quote]Depression Boy wrote:
Any numbers you can throw up on your leg lifts: squat, DL, Hack Squat?
Or do you prefer the leg press to squatting movements (as I suspect)
[quote]Tatsu wrote:
Sure no problem! Let me get my logbook.
Squat: ATG 120KG low bar for 8 reps at the moment.
DL (end of last year):200KG x 3
Trap bar DL (end of last year): 215KGx6
Trap bar DL from a 3cm deficit: 190KGx7
I do prefer the legpress more than the squat, what did it give away?
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Lots of focus on lat pulldowns, shrugs, curls and leg presses, they usually love dumbbell presses more than barbell bench because they can “feel it better in the chest”, generally low strength numbers (especially in lower body movements) Not to mention you threw up plenty of upperbody pics (since you can flare your lats easily and have wide clavicles to boot) but relatively few leg pics, and even fewer lift numbers in general.