Pch2's Adventures

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[quote]pch2 wrote:
I do kinda suck, but that just means I have to get better. My initial reaction was - Fuck this. I’ve learned that my initial reaction tends not to be one to stick with. If I keep plugging away, it’ll get better. I don’t suck as much as I used to.
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Yes all newbs suck. There happy? j/k.

[quote]pch2 wrote:
Do I tell him to go a little lighter on me? He went 100% and my skill isn’t strong enough to do anything but be owned by that. I get nothing out of just being crushed, and submitted.
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Here is an idea. Before you start to roll, ask him what he would do if the physicality and skill situation were reversed. Make him use his head. Hopefully, he is just a dumb ox and just not quick on the uptake and not a mean sob. Now, if he says, I wouldn’t roll with someone as big as me that is is your get out of jail free card.

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[quote]downwardog wrote:
Oh please pch2, I mean the guy is 200+ lbs and he starts in MOUNT? wtf were you guys thinking?

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Everyone started in mount and it was be with him, or not participate. I guess, the key is, no one was thinking. I’ll have a talk with him, and next time he rolls with a girl, he’ll be thinking. I’m chalking it up as a learning experience for both of us.

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Hey… So I had some serious catching up to do with your log! The last post I read was shortly after your semi truck incident lol.

I don’t have much to add to everything that was said except I totally understand your hating to cry in front of people, and especially guys. Last Wednesday when I tweaked my back at powerlifting I had a bit of a frustrated cry/tear up. My coach saw how upset/pissed off I was and pulled me off to the side to talk while the others continued training. I would have been so mad at myself if everyone saw it… so all that said, I know how you feel.

Also, good for you for getting back on the horse.

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Oh btw pch2 I have meltdowns when I train from time to time and I’ve cried 2-3 time in jits because girls beat me up so fast and so furious and it was horrible. It’s awful in the flurry of getting smashed and the adrenaline is sky high and you can’t remember why you ever chose to do this, because it’s the utter vortex of suck, like you’re being mugged on the street or something.

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[quote]Westclock wrote:
Sorry you dont have testosterone, it would take care of that little problem for you.

When men are upset they can compartmentalize emotion, basically stuff it down, or easily replace it with anger.[/quote]

Man i don’t think you have to repress your emotions. Yes i believe a man should be strong minded and not a crybaby. But i think if you never cry ever, then something is wrong with you.

I mean i’ve never cried when i’ve been beaten up badly, but i have shed some tears when i’ve failed at something that i’ve strongly wanted and made huge sacrifices for.

On the other hand i agree you have to bypass a lot of the crap you may think and feel, in order to succeed in the many challenges that life throws at us.

Like Dave Tate said: “shut up and do it”.

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[quote]Shire wrote:
Westclock wrote:
Sorry you dont have testosterone, it would take care of that little problem for you.

When men are upset they can compartmentalize emotion, basically stuff it down, or easily replace it with anger.

Man i don’t think you have to repress your emotions. Yes i believe a man should be strong minded and not a crybaby. But i think if you never cry ever, then something is wrong with you.

I mean i’ve never cried when i’ve been beaten up badly, but i have shed some tears when i’ve failed at something that i’ve strongly wanted and made huge sacrifices for.

On the other hand i agree you have to bypass a lot of the crap you may think and feel, in order to succeed in the many challenges that life throws at us.

Like Dave Tate said: “shut up and do it”.[/quote]

Well put all around.

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Guess what we did in class last night?

[quote]pch2 wrote: We started with him in mount, and as soon as the buzzer went off he went for the rape choke with all of his weight in the elbow on my sternum.

It pretty much knocked the wind right out of me. Then he transitioned to knee on belly. From there the baseball choke in north south. [/quote]

Yup, cross side to knee on belly, to baseball choke in north south. Coach started the class saying, if we’re going to be doing brutal chokes to our friends our friends need to know how to do them to us. So it was an hour and a half of being choked.

After the baseball choke we did x chokes. Initially we drilled them from knee on belly, but then we sat across from each other and just choked to get a feel for hand placement. My neck hurts whenever I swallow today.

Then I rolled. I think I may be in a smasher school, well according to DD’s assessment. The other 3 white belts were all in the 200+ range, there were two blue belts in the 140-150 range, and then the rest of the blues are 180+. So, if I want to roll more than 2 rounds, I’m rolling with a big guy. I went with the two small blue belts, and it was great. It’s nice not to just be smothered in cross side.

I have way more than two rounds in me though, so after that I looked around, and all of the big guys acted like I had cooties. I get it, they want to go hard, and I’m not going to deal with that. I picked a big, but over 40 blue belt, and we rolled, but he mostly just gave me stuff. It was fun, and I’ve got my loop choke down.

Then I picked a white belt I’ve drilled with before. I told him we were going to play with me on top, and if he swept me, we’d start over. It worked for a little while, but kept passing his guard, and then he got frustrated. He picked me up and knocked me over with just strength, so I told him we should switch partners. Accepting that I can’t out muscle someone, even a 210lb someone, sucks (logically it makes sense, but you all know what I mean), but I need to suck it up and keep myself safe.

Then I rolled with a striped blue belt that I’ve been avoiding because he’s really mean to some of the guys. He was great though, he gave me just enough to make me feel like I was working but he didn’t just hand me stuff.

I didn’t really talk to John. He kept trying to make jokes, in that way that boys do when things are awkward and I just smiled and nodded. I told him I was okay, and left it at that.

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[quote]downwardog wrote:
Oh btw pch2 I have meltdowns when I train from time to time and I’ve cried 2-3 time in jits because girls beat me up so fast and so furious and it was horrible. It’s awful in the flurry of getting smashed and the adrenaline is sky high and you can’t remember why you ever chose to do this, because it’s the utter vortex of suck, like you’re being mugged on the street or something.[/quote]

Yup, you’ve nailed it. The utter vortex of suck. At least next time I’ll be understand what’s going on.

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[quote]pch2 wrote:
Guess what we did in class last night?

pch2 wrote: We started with him in mount, and as soon as the buzzer went off he went for the rape choke with all of his weight in the elbow on my sternum.

It pretty much knocked the wind right out of me. Then he transitioned to knee on belly. From there the baseball choke in north south.

Yup, cross side to knee on belly, to baseball choke in north south. Coach started the class saying, if we’re going to be doing brutal chokes to our friends our friends need to know how to do them to us. So it was an hour and a half of being choked.

After the baseball choke we did x chokes. Initially we drilled them from knee on belly, but then we sat across from each other and just choked to get a feel for hand placement. My neck hurts whenever I swallow today.

Then I rolled. I think I may be in a smasher school, well according to DD’s assessment. The other 3 white belts were all in the 200+ range, there were two blue belts in the 140-150 range, and then the rest of the blues are 180+. So, if I want to roll more than 2 rounds, I’m rolling with a big guy. I went with the two small blue belts, and it was great. It’s nice not to just be smothered in cross side.

I have way more than two rounds in me though, so after that I looked around, and all of the big guys acted like I had cooties. I get it, they want to go hard, and I’m not going to deal with that. I picked a big, but over 40 blue belt, and we rolled, but he mostly just gave me stuff. It was fun, and I’ve got my loop choke down.

Then I picked a white belt I’ve drilled with before. I told him we were going to play with me on top, and if he swept me, we’d start over. It worked for a little while, but kept passing his guard, and then he got frustrated. He picked me up and knocked me over with just strength, so I told him we should switch partners. Accepting that I can’t out muscle someone, even a 210lb someone, sucks (logically it makes sense, but you all know what I mean), but I need to suck it up and keep myself safe.

Then I rolled with a striped blue belt that I’ve been avoiding because he’s really mean to some of the guys. He was great though, he gave me just enough to make me feel like I was working but he didn’t just hand me stuff.

I didn’t really talk to John. He kept trying to make jokes, in that way that boys do when things are awkward and I just smiled and nodded. I told him I was okay, and left it at that. [/quote]

Man i could never grapple with a woman, it would be way too distracting. I’d probably get a boner.

Sorry for being so crude.

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[quote]Shire wrote:
Man i could never grapple with a woman, it would be way too distracting. I’d probably get a boner.

Sorry for being so crude.
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How old are you? I only tend to hear this from teenagers and guys that don’t really interact with women. Though one of the smaller blue belts is the old virgin so I always roll with him. He doesn’t seem to be bothered by it. He won’t go for submissions, but that’s a different thing.

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[quote]pch2 wrote:
Shire wrote:
Man i could never grapple with a woman, it would be way too distracting. I’d probably get a boner.

Sorry for being so crude.

How old are you? I only tend to hear this from teenagers and guys that don’t really interact with women. Though one of the smaller blue belts is the old virgin so I always roll with him. He doesn’t seem to be bothered by it. He won’t go for submissions, but that’s a different thing.

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I’m a mere 23yrs of age.

LOL maybe i should have worded it better? I was just being honest.

I did train in Kenpo Karate when i was 17 and i used to get paired up with an older cute girl, i was too shy back then though.
She probably thought i was a nerd(i still am sort of). I was a total neophyte and she was quite good(i don’t recall the grading system we used back then but she was decent with defending knife attacks).

I do interact with women a lot :), i guess i say things on the internet i wouldn’t say to women i know face to face. I would never say that to my best friend for instance. Yea i know thats kinda bad.

Also this is why in the past women weren’t allowed to train with men in most MAs(this is still the case in a minority of schools in Asia).

Hot women are distracting!

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[quote]pch2 wrote:
Shire wrote:
Man i could never grapple with a woman, it would be way too distracting. I’d probably get a boner.

Sorry for being so crude.

How old are you? I only tend to hear this from teenagers and guys that don’t really interact with women. Though one of the smaller blue belts is the old virgin so I always roll with him. He doesn’t seem to be bothered by it. He won’t go for submissions, but that’s a different thing.

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He might not “pop a boner” but I promise he likes it.

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[quote]Westclock wrote:
pch2 wrote:
Shire wrote:
Man i could never grapple with a woman, it would be way too distracting. I’d probably get a boner.

Sorry for being so crude.

How old are you? I only tend to hear this from teenagers and guys that don’t really interact with women. Though one of the smaller blue belts is the old virgin so I always roll with him. He doesn’t seem to be bothered by it. He won’t go for submissions, but that’s a different thing.

He might not “pop a boner” but I promise he likes it.[/quote]

Thanks for backing me up man :smiley:

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[quote]Shire wrote:
Westclock wrote:
He might not “pop a boner” but I promise he likes it.

Thanks for backing me up man :smiley:
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Have either of you ever actually rolled with women? If they like it so much, why is getting someone to roll with so difficult? I think it’s one of those you don’t know because you haven’t done it sorts of things.

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Kinda off topic, but…

Pch2, you kick a whole lotta ass on many different levels. I’ve hopped and skipped through this thread and the Pretty dirty things one and I must say… I wish I knew you in real life.

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[quote]pch2 wrote:
Shire wrote:
Westclock wrote:
He might not “pop a boner” but I promise he likes it.

Thanks for backing me up man :smiley:

Have either of you ever actually rolled with women? If they like it so much, why is getting someone to roll with so difficult? I think it’s one of those you don’t know because you haven’t done it sorts of things.[/quote]

I dont actually do combat sports, so no I have never rolled with a woman except being tackled by 4 girls as sabotage in a tug of war over a mud pit and actually having a pretty tough time getting up off my back due to 4 people on top of me and lack of traction.

I thoroughly enjoyed it, however embarrassing it was for me to be held down by high school girls.

But you have to remember that not everything guys do it sexual, just most of it.

Its hard to get someone to roll with because they are uncomfortable touching you in that manner, its too similar to a rape situation and that makes men EXTREMELY nervous.

Its not that they don’t WANT to touch you, they just dont want to touch you like that. And they dont want to have to hold back for fear of hurting you, they’d rather have another guy about their size who can take a pretty serious beating and just laugh it off.

Is it possible for a 240 pound guy to seriously injure another 200+ pound guy on the ground by accident ? probably, but its actually pretty unlikely for most, Ive been in fights where I was TRYING to hurt the other guy and didn’t really succeed in doing that much damage, no broken bones and the like.

If your attractive and you dont think any male besides your brother of father doesn’t enjoy you sitting on him, then your mistaken.

Males enjoy contact will all parts of a females body pretty much whenever they can get it as long as the girl WANTS the contact.

Example:

A really cute girl fell asleep on my shoulder on the bus, that didn’t make me that nervous and I think girls look amazing when they sleep, but we went over a bump and her hand fell in my lap, I was horrified.

I sat there sweating trying to figure out what to do, should I try to move her hand and risk her waking up halfway with me holding her hand near my crotch ?, or should I leave it there and make it extremely awkward if she moved more or woke up ?

I ended up spending the next few minutes moving her hand like a damn bomb squad guy, the guy in the seat across from me was trying not to burst out laughing.

Now, you see I was HORRIFIED that she was almost touching my junk, because she didn’t mean to.

Does that mean I didn’t want her to touch my junk ? absolutely not, I would have loved her up and down a wall about 7 times until I could no longer get it going.

But I didnt want her to do anything she didnt actual want to do, and I didnt want to be seen as allowing it to happen either, because Im a good guy and not a sexual predator.

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[quote]pch2 wrote:
Shire wrote:
Westclock wrote:
He might not “pop a boner” but I promise he likes it.

Thanks for backing me up man :smiley:

Have either of you ever actually rolled with women? If they like it so much, why is getting someone to roll with so difficult? I think it’s one of those you don’t know because you haven’t done it sorts of things.[/quote]

Well i sometimes get wrestled playfully by my female friends, does that count?

Also when i go to the gym, apart from being polite i ignore everyone especially hot females(otherwise i go off on a daydream and start thinking what i’d like to do to them).
Then i end up getting nothing done.

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[quote]ShaneM686 wrote:
Kinda off topic, but…

Pch2, you kick a whole lotta ass on many different levels. I’ve hopped and skipped through this thread and the Pretty dirty things one and I must say… I wish I knew you in real life.[/quote]

Lol, thanks. You’re in Ohio, if you’re ever in Cleveland you should come to a BJJ class.

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With Westclock on this one. I’ve done some combatives and even if guys want to roll hard and give the guy who has to teach the girls grief, they always tell the guy later that he’s lucky especially if there’s an attractive girl. At least that’s what my combatives instructor said…

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I, for one, was definitely aroused while rolling with pch2.