[quote]pch2 wrote:
I apparently don’t suck though…[/quote]
I’m not ComixGuy, so I’ll just say…
Damn.
Lifting on Tuesday’s just isn’t going to work schedule wise, so Tuesday is now an off day. Maybe I’ll lift Friday and Sunday? We’ll see.
Last night in a fellow student took over since Coach is out of town. He plays a mean game, so we learned mean submissions from mount. They all started with should smashing into neck/face - arm triangle, loop choke, arm bar.
Then we rolled five 5 minute rounds. It was great! My first round was with Frank (a newly promoted blue belt) and I managed to not get tapped! Second round I was with another blue belt, but he never tries to go for submissions with me, just defend, so I got his back from guard and managed to work that loop choke. Third round I was with a white belt, but he competed in the 225+ weight class, so my only goal was to not let him pass my guard. A guy that big on you, sucks so much. He passed once but then I figured out his game and it didn’t happen again. Fourth round another white belt, but he refuses to be promoted so he should probably be blue, and he was a college wrestler. He kept stopping to show me things, so it wasn’t really rolling. My last round was with the guy that taught class, and he just gave me everything we had learned that day.
After most of the rounds the rounds I got that whoa you don’t suck look from most of the guys, it was nice. I rolled a bit after class, and drilled shrimping out when stuck in side control.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
So Thursday morning I got hit by a semi on the way to work. I’m fine, but the passenger side of my car is pretty much gone. He was getting on the highway and ‘just didn’t see’ me. I got to spend the day dealing with cops and insurance, it pretty much just sucked ass.
I waited by the side of the road with the cop for three hours waiting for the tow truck, and the cop saw my gi in the car and began talking about his fighting history. I got to hear about every bare knuckled bar fight he had ever been in, and then he had the balls to ask me if I’d ever want to roll with him. Ugh.
Once the car was towed I was stuck in the middle of no where. I went through my list of people I know in cleveland, and the only person I could get was coach. He actually managed to contact one of the guys and he came and picked me up. It was really nice to be able to depend on the BJJ guys. I have found my people.
I didn’t really want to go home so I ended up on coach’s couch watching tv until class.
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I meant to also say “thank you” for the image of the semi…was that for the sake of those that aren’t familiar with a ‘semi’?
Your posts with illustrations always make me chuckle.
And, one last thing…I think you should henceforth refer to your gi as your Quagmire…
As in
GI-
GI-
ty
GI-
GI-
ty
[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
I meant to also say “thank you” for the image of the semi…was that for the sake of those that aren’t familiar with a ‘semi’?
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Yes, I work with a lot of international students, and none of them knew what a semi was. The picture was for the exotic people.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
LightsOutLuthor wrote:
I meant to also say “thank you” for the image of the semi…was that for the sake of those that aren’t familiar with a ‘semi’?
Yes, I work with a lot of international students, and none of them knew what a semi was. The picture was for the exotic people.[/quote]
Yeah, but think about it - what the heck is a ‘semi’ anyways? I mean, it’s short for “semi-tractor trailer”, but I’ve never seen a ‘full-tractor trailer’, or a 'quarter-tractor trailer either.
dumb colloquialisms and idioms.
[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
pch2 wrote:
LightsOutLuthor wrote:
I meant to also say “thank you” for the image of the semi…was that for the sake of those that aren’t familiar with a ‘semi’?
Yes, I work with a lot of international students, and none of them knew what a semi was. The picture was for the exotic people.
Yeah, but think about it - what the heck is a ‘semi’ anyways? I mean, it’s short for “semi-tractor trailer”, but I’ve never seen a ‘full-tractor trailer’, or a 'quarter-tractor trailer either.
dumb colloquialisms and idioms. [/quote]
It refers to a trailer that does not have a front axel. Learned about them in a supply chain management course I took once.
I’ll just crawl back into my nerdy supply chain hole now… 
[quote]KBurnett wrote:
LightsOutLuthor wrote:
pch2 wrote:
LightsOutLuthor wrote:
I meant to also say “thank you” for the image of the semi…was that for the sake of those that aren’t familiar with a ‘semi’?
Yes, I work with a lot of international students, and none of them knew what a semi was. The picture was for the exotic people.
Yeah, but think about it - what the heck is a ‘semi’ anyways? I mean, it’s short for “semi-tractor trailer”, but I’ve never seen a ‘full-tractor trailer’, or a 'quarter-tractor trailer either.
dumb colloquialisms and idioms.
It refers to a trailer that does not have a front axel. Learned about them in a supply chain management course I took once.
I’ll just crawl back into my nerdy supply chain hole now…
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so there are actually non-semi-trailers? Glad to know this little bit 'o trivia. And glad to hijack the thread for a minute!
I started crying in class today.
I ended up rolling with the sandbagger from yesterday. We started with him in mount, and as soon as the buzzer went off he went for the rape choke with all of his weight in the elbow on my sternum.
It pretty much knocked the wind right out of me. Then he transitioned to knee on belly. From there the baseball choke in north south. How to Do the spin choke in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu « Martial Arts :: WonderHowTo
I panicked that visceral girl, there’s a large man on top of me hurting me, panic. I tapped, he asked if I was okay, and I started crying. I couldn’t help it.
I went back to the bathroom and tried to suck it up. But when I went back out he swept me and I started crying again, so I came home.
I feel like a bit of a pussy for starting to cry. A bit disillusioned because I thought I was beginning to not suck. And a little crazy for even doing this. I don’t know, I’m going to do some homework, calm down and then reevaluate.
Now all of the guys have seen me crying, how am I supposed to handle the damage control?
[quote]pch2 wrote:
Now all of the guys have seen me crying, how am I supposed to handle the damage control?[/quote]
I used to wrestle (greco-roman) back in the day…and when you’re ‘taken down’ and pinned, fight or flight is a bitch to overcome. In my case, it resulted in me punching a cinderblock gym wall until my pinky knuckle had strips of skin hanging off of it, and my face red enough that it CAUSED a nosebleed. I coulda cried then too (yeah, I’ll admit it).
If you were crying because of overwhelming emotional stimulus, then I would chalk it up to that - that you were INTENSE about the situation. If you were crying because the position you were in either triggered some phobia or past issue, then that’s another thing entirely.
I would not worry about the ‘what ifs’ of your group thinking or not thinking something about you. Believe me, you will build the scenarios up in your head about WHAT they think about it much more than they are thinking about it.
That being said, you DO have one advantage (not that I condone playing the sex card, but believe me, MANY dudes out there have NO CLUE about emotional differences between men and women): they might assume it was “your time of the month”, or that you did have something ‘female’ that made you have that response…and they’ll leave it at that.
At the end of the day, guys turn back into 6 year old boys and the differences between girls and boys confuses the hell out of us.
Once again, I’ll say you’re doing something a very SMALL part of the population has the conjones (male or female) has ever attempted, and your experiences are going to not always line up with the ‘normal world’.
Don’t sweat it. If anyone asks - you had a bad day. I didn’t know it before but I’ve been learning since I started that fighting is so more than punching, kicking, submitting, etc, etc and strange things can happen emotionally. I know I’ve had my share as well…
Not sure this was much help, but I think it’ll be okay with the guys. They may take it a little easier on you for a little while, but that will fade pretty quickly and all will be forgotten. Isn’t that one of the cool things about guys anyway??
[quote]pch2 wrote:
Now all of the guys have seen me crying, how am I supposed to handle the damage control?[/quote]
I would not worry about it. You were pushed beyond your comfort level and that can be a really intense experience. I know if I was in that class I would not think any less of you. Find that guy next class, pair up, and go at him hard. That will communicate that there’s no lasting damage and you’re still the hard ass fighter you’ve been all along.
As previously mentioned, you are doing something that most people would be way too scared to try. It’s easy to lose sight of that when you’re in that world, but you are doing something pretty extraordinary.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
I started crying in class today.
I ended up rolling with the sandbagger from yesterday. We started with him in mount, and as soon as the buzzer went off he went for the rape choke with all of his weight in the elbow on my sternum.
It pretty much knocked the wind right out of me. Then he transitioned to knee on belly. From there the baseball choke in north south. How to Do the spin choke in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu « Martial Arts :: WonderHowTo
I panicked that visceral girl, there’s a large man on top of me hurting me, panic. I tapped, he asked if I was okay, and I started crying. I couldn’t help it.
I went back to the bathroom and tried to suck it up. But when I went back out he swept me and I started crying again, so I came home.
I feel like a bit of a pussy for starting to cry. A bit disillusioned because I thought I was beginning to not suck. And a little crazy for even doing this. I don’t know, I’m going to do some homework, calm down and then reevaluate.[/quote]
Armchair psychology: You just had a bunch of traumatic experiences, one right after the other, culminating and getting hit by a big-ass truck. Then you experienced a high in getting the stripe and respect from the group. I can tell the respect from the group is no small thing for you.
That roller coaster ride combined with your demanding schedule of work,training and who knows what else has probably put your body/mind through the physiological/psychological wringer.
You don’t suck at BJJ. But your fear of sucking will incapicitate you and give you undesired results. That coupled with the stress you have went through recently it is no wonder the catalyst of Sandbagger getting the initial upperhand caused the reaction.
Once the stressors are gone or acclimated, approach Sandbagger for a rematch - soon. Even if he is much better and you really don’t have a chance, facing him again will help you. But don’t wait too long.
If it helps, I would lay odds that Kyra or Gina have cried at least once in their careers.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
I started crying in class today.
I ended up rolling with the sandbagger from yesterday. We started with him in mount, and as soon as the buzzer went off he went for the rape choke with all of his weight in the elbow on my sternum.
It pretty much knocked the wind right out of me. Then he transitioned to knee on belly. From there the baseball choke in north south. How to Do the spin choke in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu « Martial Arts :: WonderHowTo
I panicked that visceral girl, there’s a large man on top of me hurting me, panic. I tapped, he asked if I was okay, and I started crying. I couldn’t help it.
I went back to the bathroom and tried to suck it up. But when I went back out he swept me and I started crying again, so I came home.
I feel like a bit of a pussy for starting to cry. A bit disillusioned because I thought I was beginning to not suck. And a little crazy for even doing this. I don’t know, I’m going to do some homework, calm down and then reevaluate.
Now all of the guys have seen me crying, how am I supposed to handle the damage control?
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Don’t be stupid. You cried, no big deal.
Train harder and don’t give up. You need to get used to being sweeped, choked and having the wind knocked out of you.
You’ll get respect if you consistently come back to class and train hard.
Fuck girl thats nothing. I cried at the end of the Iron Giant.
That Disney movie with the robot. Gets me every time.
And I promise Im “somewhat” more intimidating than you. Im 6 foot, 240 and I juice.
That said, dont worry about crying in front of guys, your a girl, you were being hurt by a larger guy, you panicked, thats pretty normal.
If anything now you have to worry about them taking it too easy on you out of fear of hurting you.
Ive nearly been knocked unconscious by a 120 pound girly friend of mine, got my right in the back of the head with a kick.
I laughed it off, I suggest you do the same, make it a joke if anyone asks, if they dont let it die.
I took a do nothing day yesterday. I realize that there is no best time to start doing things, but I think I’ll just save getting my ass back into the weight room for after Thanksgiving.
[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
I used to wrestle (greco-roman) back in the day…and when you’re ‘taken down’ and pinned, fight or flight is a bitch to overcome. [/quote]
I think this was the first time it was actually triggered during BJJ. So far rolling has just been playing a game, because these guys aren’t going to hurt me. They go hard with me, but I still feel safe. I’m not really sure why John triggered not safe, but he did.
People have always been nice to me and if any thing I tend to be a bit naive. Which is why I found my reaction surprising. I think if I had lingering issues, I wouldn’t be doing this. Wouldn’t it be really traumatic?
I think I’m learning this too. You just never know how you’re going to react in new situations. It makes you wonder how people can be so adamant about what they would do if they were in someone else’s shoes.
‘Yeah, if that happened to me I’d just kick his ass’
This is kinda what I’m worried about, but then, I think I want them to go a little easy on me for a while. Yesterday morning, a guy put his hand on my hip to move me out of the way, and I jumped a little. That has never been my reaction to strangers touching me.
[quote]KBurnett wrote:
Find that guy next class, pair up, and go at him hard. That will communicate that there’s no lasting damage and you’re still the hard ass fighter you’ve been all along.[/quote]
Yeah, now I’m going to have to kick his ass. It’s going to take a while though, he’s got 60lbs and years of wrestling on me. When I do; it’ll rock!
[quote]pch2 wrote:
KBurnett wrote:
Find that guy next class, pair up, and go at him hard. That will communicate that there’s no lasting damage and you’re still the hard ass fighter you’ve been all along.
Yeah, now I’m going to have to kick his ass. It’s going to take a while though, he’s got 60lbs and years of wrestling on me. When I do; it’ll rock![/quote]
You don’t need to kick his ass - though that would be fun I’m sure. You just need to get back on the horse. Those guys will respect that fact that you were down, but came back again and jumped right in. Hell, they’ll probably respect the fact that you take him on knowing that you can’t beat his ass. That takes guts.