MonkeyBoy, you appear to have only asked Mommy Monkey one-half the question…ie were the actions of the mother appropriate. Your mother’s answer was correct. However, how appropriate did she think it was for the son to lay his hands on his mother? I would like to hear her response to that. There is NO excuse is this circumstance. If his mother had been coming at him with a butcher knife, it would be a different story. The fact is that the pattern here is that the younger the person, the more he seems to think it is OK to push his mother around. I certainly hope that wisdom does in fact come with age or our society is going to hell quickly.
I am fresh out in the real world. I moved about 850 miles from home and I pay all my bills. Totally independent, so now I realize how much I actually owe my parents over the years. Between the financial stability they gave me and morals and values, I could never begin to pay them back. Personally if I ever pushed my mom my Dad would have beat the hell out of me and I would have deserved it. There’s nothing any of us can say to convince you of the things we have all said, you’ll just “get it” someday when you are older. Like I said, I’m paying my own bills and suppose I had someone living with me. If I were to ask them to do some little task like take out trash or do some dishes and they gave me shit while they enjoy the things I provide for them, I would go apeshit and feel a bit hurt for how ungrateful they were. I’m amazed my parents don’t have me for the little bastard that I was at times in my youth. I’m only 24 right now but my parents and I now have that more friendly relationship now, they don’t tell me what to do but I often ask them for advice. It’s very true, the older you get the smarter your parents become.
I’m actually very surprised by some of the responses I’m seeing. I could probably guess the ages by the advice given. If some of you don’t mind, post your age. I know at times this forum gets anti teenager or it at least puts them down but I just find some of these posts difficult to swallow. For those of you that are on your own, I doubt you are the ones giving advice like “fuck her, do your set” As for the comment that your mother needs to earn your respect, that is the most fucked up thing I have ever heard. Then again it’s possible that some mothers are shitty and don’t care about their kids, I was lucky to have a great mom. I miss her cooking.
this is to avoids roids-you seem like you are gay. stop bothering men that have more “T” than you do.
A-Roids, good point. So I went back to Mommy Monkey, who feels that it was completely justified that he pushed her as it was a dangerous invasion of space. She went on to say: “As long as he would normally never touch her I think he was pushed to a reaction he would normally never come to. SHe has to have more respect and judgement in respecting his space at the time. She was wrong, even if there was something she wanted to tell him she shouldn’t have touched him while he was doing that.” - Mommy Monkey. I agree. Mommy rocks. Lata.
“MB Eric: Putting the “nut” in nutcase since 1804.”
Man wtf is that shit, kiss your mothers feet and do all the laundry for a month, hahaha what a joke that is. She would be lucky that i didn’t jsut accidently drop the weights on her feet, DO NOT interupt the workout, sure its ok in between sets, but never during a set. I agree with your parents should get respect, but it should go both ways. Trying to grab the weights out of his hand, thats just stupid. I would say he handled it well, and luckily didn’t snap or anything considering he’s full of adrenaline and shit.
It’s unfortunate how endemic the mores
of “entitlement,” self-centeredness, and
total lack of respect of others has become.
Various of those posts thoroughly demonstrate
that.
Getting past the issues of wrongly considering
oneself to be “entitled” to all kinds of things
which one is not earning, or being self-centered, or being obviously lacking
in respect to people who traditionally
should deserve it, let’s even just look
at the issue of the interrupted set.
HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE does it make if you’d
been planning on doing say three sets
of bench with the fourth being going to
failure, and winding up instead doing
four sets, with the fourth being to failure
and the third being a few reps short?
Will you see the difference in your physique?
Hell no.
It would be another issue if you were talking
about every workout being interrupted many
times when one had in fact already done
everything asked to be done. Still wouldn’t
have called for this response, though.
But being this upset about one set indicates
total self-centeredness and pinheadedness,
a COMPLETE lack of priorities, and a complete
lack of any respect for the mother’s priorities
(not to mention her person.)
In far less situations – when someone is
merely an acquaintance and I owe them nothing
except courtesy – I sure don’t act like
an asshole to someone who, say, hasn’t
seen me in a while and winds up interrupting
my workout a bit. I know it has no long
term effect on my goals, but being rude to
the person surely does.
I wouldn’t consider it worth commenting
except that such a large percentage of
people today have these same character
problems. For sure, this is going to
cause (and has already caused) society
a lot of problems.
There is, believe it or not, something
to be said for recognizing the difference
between what one has earned and what one
has not, for respecting others, for
respecting their priorities, for having
at least one iota of sense in your own
priorities, etc.
I don’t like the idea of ragging on readers
but some of what’s been said here has been
pretty appalling.
Ron…I hear ya. Did I really say that? Understandably, a lot of people had some extreme emotional reactions to this one initially (myself obviously included). The posts have certainly become saner. D-dawg also got lots of good sound advise from the calmer audience. Hope he was able to find it. Are you out there, d-dawg?
Krak: I’m 23, live on my own and I think the mother was in the wrong and the 17 year old did the right thing. It is not like he did a ground and pound on her, he just acted defensively.
Hey d-puppy how does it feel to know your dad is such a pussy?
hey punk, when you turn 18 this year join the marines. then let the forum know what your gunny thinks of your idea of respect. if you would push a person who is as big or stronger than yourself, then you might be tough. if you only push the weak and/or small, then you are a pussy with no balls.
I would just backhand the bitch if she bothers you again. And if your dad has any problem with it, then take care of him “West/Side Style” You have to show who’s got the testosterone in your house, and this is the best way to show that you are fully grown up.
Aight people, lets GET REAL here. This is the most petty thing I have ever seen. All this shit cause he FORGOT to do the damn laundry…Who Gives a Shit?! (remember that one?) In my opinion this is what’s going down in his house. Our good friend d-dawg, (who by the way will probably get a new handle after this post, LOL) probably is one of those guys, who forgets to do things occasionally. He prolly doesn’t put the dishes in the dishwasher and maybe he doesn’t make his bed in the morning and never cleans his room. Just a bunch of little things pileing up but he never really does anything big wrong. His mom has probably been pissed at everything that he does that she finds annoying because there is just so much of it, thelittle things that is. So out of frustration she tries to grab the weights away from him when he dissed her by saying he would do it later (he basically says"I have more important things to do…big mistake). It really is sad that this STUPID of an incident happened. It is BOTH your mom’s fault for freaking out AND your fault for not doing the laundry when she told you too. HERE IS MY ADVICE (drum roll): Eat it and Apologize for whatever it is they THINK you did and remember, when you are in an arguement with your parents, just agree with them. Trust me, it is ALOT easier than trying to turn them. In their minds, if they let you be right, then you win…and that is somehting they would rather die than have, you are a “stupid kid” who “thinks he knows everything.” They know that you know ALOT more about lifting and nutrition than they do but they can’t allow themselves to admit their fallicies and their inferior knowledge, even if it is just one area. My parents say “yeah, but you only read that propaganda they tell you at T-mag.” I just laugh and think, “ok, I’m the one with the muscles here.” I don’t say that of course, I just kinda slip out of the conversation slyly (sp?). Look bro, you shouldn’t have touched your mother, I don’t care that she is just being a bitch and trying to get you in trouble by exaggerating the whole thing. Just do your own thing and if they interrupt, who cares, just take it easy, your whole family needs to just RELAX. After all, this is so stupid having all this shit over laundry…come on. Your new handle - “WifeBeater” LOL, I’m just kidding, It’s not like you beat her or anything, you just like, kinda nudged her to let her know thats your personal space. And to the person who said, “The whole house is THEIR space.” yeah, thats true, but kids probably aren’t going to like you very much for not being understanding or even open minded, don’t YOU hate it when someone just automatically says, “Nope sorry big guy, your wrong, I’m right plain and simple.” without even listening to your point of view? I’m pretty sure that would piss me off. Also, to the people who said “fuck them,” I’m not even going to start. Alright, I’m out, lata big guy. Hope this helps with your little problem, and like Bill roberts said, chill out, It wouldn’t have affected your physique. Whoever wanted the age of us posters - 17
About the study of one’s relationship with parents and the corresponding response: My mom was a lousy mom, she will tell you that today. I grew up in endless fighting, hair-pulling and screaming. I still never had the gall to push her, even being MUCH more provoked than this kid was. She’s a different woman today, much more sane. More than that, I’m a different woman. When you become a parent you realize what all you parents have done for you, even if they didn’t do it well. Any parent of a three-year-old will tell you how hard it is to raise a child. You have to die to your own desires a million times so that they can have things you want them to have. As for the justification this kid made about it being “his space” - listen, if you don’t like it, move out. I went on my own at 16 yrs old. I had already graduated highschool, so I moved into the dorm at college and worked in the evening to afford it. You may graduate later than I, so eat it until then, and then BUY your own space. The only free things you get in life come from your parents, early in life. If you think your a man, it’s time to start paying for yourself. An adult shouldn’t be supported by his parents. You have no clue what it costs to live. Oh, and I’m 24.
Amazing, simply amazing. I guess I better go dig my mother up and slap her around a bit for all the times that I should have but treated her with respect instead. As for you Steve, what is YOUR problem? Perhaps guilt? But if you would like to come to Connecticut and tell this Vietnam Vet (Sea Wolves) that I am gay to my face, I will be more than happy to reply. Until then, you can go back to pushing lil old ladies around.
Wow, some of these responses scare the Beefster. Just apologize and try to get your chores done from now on and then join a gym. I don’t think you should overcomplicate things.
“Pushing lil ole ladies around” HA! That puts the whole thing in perspective, doesn’t it? These t-puppies have a LONG way to go!
you were in nam?lol. Actually I am kinda close to you, I’m in Massachusetts. Also, I am on the young side of the T spectrum (age 16), but I’ll just beat you like they beat you in Nam
Steve, the only thing you can beat is your dick.
I can’t believe some of the response this kid has gotten that try to justify what he did. Ok, listen… the woman who brought you into this world, the woman who has fed you and has raised you, who has kept you from running with scissors and has put bandaids on you when you’ve been hurt, who has given you money when you need to go out with friends and who has allowed you the priveledge of living under her roof, should NOT be pushed or spoken back to. I’m not saying parents are always right. Hell, everyone makes mistakes. But learn some respect! She’s earned the right to it and you need to learn that if she wants to take your weights away from you, she CAN, whenever she likes, because you live under her roof! Want to lift weights without interruptions? Want to eat as much protein as you like? MOVE OUT! When you’re 18 and you can get yourself a job and live on your own then she’s got no right to butt into your business. Until then, give her the respect that she deserves. My suggestion to you: Get a part time job if you don’t already have one. This will teach you some responsibility, not to mention help you learn to appreciate what your parents have to go through to keep you fed… On top of that, you’ll have your own money and more freedom to do what you like, so if you choose to buy protein powder or join a gym you’ll be able to with your own money.