I beleive what we have here is a discrepency in the term “respect”. I think that oftentimes the word respect either a) replaces fear or b) is a term used for those who were taught never to question their parents or elders mostly because their parents or elders were afraid of being asked a question that made them question themselves. I love my parents very much, I also respect them. THat respect, however, was mostly earned. D-dawg’s situation is not about being an “out-of-control teenager” or “Disrespectful son”. It’s about a REACTION to a dangerous situation. RESPECT DOES NOT APPLY. For those of you who are wagging your fists in the air shouting “if you were my son…” or “you’re lucky I’M not your father…” I’d care to rimind you that beating your son is a fabulous way to form a positive, healthy bond with your child. I’m sure he’d have a deep “respect” for you after being assaulted. Listen, morons, I beseech you; the question here is not whether D-dawg has the manners of a cave-dwelling heathen, he has demonstrated otherwise, the focus here is a reaction to a situation created by an impulsive action occuring within a volitile time period. I urge you to keep your childhoods to yourselves and attempt, just attempt to look at this from a LOGICAL prospective.
“MB Eric: More points than a Swiss Army Shiv since 1897.”
We have only heard one side of this, maybe he was more of a shit… maybe not.
Lets get back to training! I’d like to know what kind of diet you’re on and a little about your current routine. How far were you able to shove your mom? Was she on a smooth floor or carpet?
How much does she weigh? Do you have a spit that you use when pushing your parents? Mom on Mondays and Dad on Wenesdays … maybe one light day… say a few taps at granny Saturday morning? What kind of gains have you been experiencing?
Someone, a woman, trying to remove
db’s from your hands when you had been
doing curls?
Give me a break. Dangerous my ass. (Only if
the guy tries fighting back, and then only
maybe.) The excuses
being found for this guy shoving his mother
are stunning.
The people who respond with how they would like to beat the kid who acted defensively toward his mother must have been beaten and spanked when they were children. It is common for these types of people to want to hit other people. Spanking/beating teaches children that it is ok to hit someone if they do something that you think is wrong.
I have to totally agree with Monkeyboy, Molsonman and Jay.
Now you guys who are all high and mighty with the , “oh if I was your father”, and “I’d kick your ass” stuff.
You guys are like idiot vigilantes. Do you have a superman complex or something? You answer with no rationale, you just follow blindly the social conditioning instilled in you. And Bill Roberts, you’re making blanket genralizations about what goes on in society in this situation. Everyone think of “Mom” as this wonderful old lady who means no harm to anyone, fragile and trying to save the world like Mother Teresa. Guess what, not everyone’s mom is like that. Some are real dicks. A lot of mothers didn’t plan to bring you up. Some guy blew his load, and she was the recipient. Maybe she was bitter all her life, and took it out on the poor kid.
Why are some of you making excuses for him. Seriously, some of you have concocted his life story in order to defend him. His post says nothing about being abused by his mother or that he felt that there was some danger he had to push her away from. So what’s up with all these bullshit excuses? Is there that many T-bitches on this board? Cause that’s what you are if you think it’s ok to push your mother away so you can finish your workout. Dude, your dad should have grabbed you by the front of your shirt and threatened to beat your ass if you ever touched his wife again. Whopper has said it better than I could, so I refer back to his response.
I know you’re taking some hard hits in these replies, but I truly hope you’ll listen. Aside from the hyperbole, you need to re-read your own post and realize how astoundingly selfish you are! I mean, it’s so transparent that you seem almost like a comedy skit on theonion.com about teens! Nevermind that you pushed your mom–violently or not, that is wrong and if you’re already excusing that as no big deal, I truly fear the things you’ll let yourself do when you’re mad some other day. Also, you need to remember that you are 17. As such, you have duties, responsibilities, and obligations to your family, and those ae first. Don’t call yourself a T-man just because you appear to prioritize weightlifting; that’s second-class. A T-man also accepts the burden of his ethical family duties. I’m proud of my T-brothers for also seeing this so clearly and calling you down for it. Now get off your mountaintop of self-importance and join your family in the way you should–as a contributor, not as a bossy bully.
After a little time to cool off, I was able to apologize to my mom. Looking back on it I see the whole thing was pretty stupid. When I explained to her that I don’t like being bothered during a workout, especially physically during a set, she said that I am way too concerned about working out, but she agreed to try to wait til I am done with my workout if she wants me to do something.
Dale and Whopper, the only reason I referred to laundry and vacuuming as un-T is that they were done between sets, and since they take a long time, there isn't much effort or concentration on the workout. I also do these things (not while working out). BTW, I have a job, will be starting a second one soon, and I buy most of my own food.
Molsonman, I agree with your comment about young people becoming unnaturally dependent on older people. As society advances, more and more years of training, education, and experience are needed in order to get a good job (generally), which forces dependence at a time when young people are wired to be independent. Of course this causes lots of conflicts, especially when parents expect their kids to be their puppets and exist in order to increase the parents’ happiness. If their kids don’t want to live this way, they can make their lives pretty miserable. On the other hand, if it weren’t for technological advancement, there would be no T-mag, not to mention most of us wouldn’t be alive.
d-dawg … You sound much more level headed… good on ya. There’s nothing wrong with being reliant on someone else when your still young. I can’t speak for all parents but my daugter was never brought up to be a puppet. She is a strong willed individual, who has been taught when to stick up for herself. We still battle over chores, but believe it or not, it is a parent’s job to teach their child that responsibilities have to be fulfilled whether or not we want to. You have less responsibilities right now than you ever will… enjoy it while you can… before you know it you’ll be folding diapers between work sets that you managed to fit into your day… sounds like it sucks, but there are some cool rewards there too… and years from now, you’ll come home from a long day at work… you’ll look forward to hitting the iron, but you’ll have to handle a situation with your teen kid… seems he pushed his mom… what should be done…hmmm… maybe you’ll threaten to take something away from him because you won’t beat him… and you’ll both know it to be an empty threat of taking it away anyway, lol… or you could shuck all responsibility and be a dead beat dad! Sounds like your parents are teaching you right, though.
I’m not trying to pick the scabs of this thread, but I’m still worried. I work as a conuselor who intervenes in family violence, and frankly, I have a job because people who get hot and mad later “sound more level-headed” and go apologize, and claim it was just a momentary thing where they got upset, and become repentant again. All that is well and good–people SHOULD apologize and become level-headed again–but the part that would worry me is if the person thought the apology and smoothing-out makes the temper “okay” or believes “I’ve dealt with it now, so it’s not a problem anymore. Lay off me.” Gotta tell you, d-dawg, you’ve brought up some skepticism among us. Which is okay, but just be aware that trust that’s freely given doesn’t mean much. I hope the change is for real.
Way to go d-dawg. You did the right thing and I am glad that you see things more clearly now. However, I suppose the hard core mom-beaters on this thread may think you are now a wuss. Perhaps they also will mature some day or, if not, perhaps become the wife beaters of tomorrow. “You put too much jelly on my PBJ.” WhamSmackKickGougeWhackThumpBiteScratch*** That’ll teachya!!!
This saddens me greatly… I cannot believe that their is even a debate about this. Steve you show your age in glimmering glory. As for anyone who thinks this kid is right… That is just plain sad. Apploligize to your mother then go volunteer at a nursing home, or food shelter or anywhere else you can get first hand experience of the world. You will learn a lot from the old people if you do it at a nursing home. Hell as them this same question they would say that in their day you would have been beaten by every parent on the block and would have been shunned by the entire community as back in the day you had principles, morals, ethics and honor. As for the people professing beatings for people interupting your sets jesus you have no life. If your workout is that important you may want to re-evaluate your own opinion of yourself as you are a sad sack.