It’s no secret that there’s at least somewhat of a metabolic and hormonal advantage to it (as there is generally with more complex lifts) compared to the sitting down press.
For those of us whose testes can still produce its own testorone this should at least be considered.
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I hope you know that what you said there is in no way a fact and is purely conjecture based on extrapolations from questionable scientific experiements. Experiments that were never meant to be applied to physique enhancement.
Since you bring it up. Can you tell us how much extra testosterone and GH (and IGF-1) is produced above baseline? On average, of course.
If you prefer blatant fucking moronic drivel, I can go with that too skippy.
Ahhh, I’m not the one who charged in trying to put people down, I just responded to your idiocy.
Your lack of intelligence shows again. I don’t give a fuck if you agree with X or not. I called you jealous because you are a little bitch that puts down people who are bigger than you, and uses “I don’t want to get too big it’s not my goal” as an excuse. That makes you a jealous little fuck. Because people that actually have that goal post on forums NOT about bodybuilding. I read some of them, trust me, they don’t care about big dudes. You do, so therefore you are jealous, otherwise you wouldn’t have posted, because you truly wouldn’t care.
Nice try though.
Give use roughly 1,000 posts of quality training advice/talk and no pics needed.
Slander is solid ground? Hmmm wonder what my lawyer would say about that…
Hi, i’m new to this forum… So, can you tell me what makes one a PX “Groupie”?
Thanks![/quote]
With 10,000+ posts in less than 2 years you’re well on your way.[/quote]
Wow. What a dick! Imhungry doesn’t come in this forum much and mostly posts in other forums. Gee, you anti-bodybuilding guys sure do suck when it comes to hospitality. Imhungry just asked a simple question.
So, you guys don’t want to make progress OR explain your retarded personal issues.
Hi, i’m new to this forum… So, can you tell me what makes one a PX “Groupie”?
Thanks![/quote]
With 10,000+ posts in less than 2 years you’re well on your way.[/quote]
Ah. I see…
Well, not really. One has nothing to do with the other and you obviously can’t answer a simple question, either. So, i’m thinking that you’re just starting shit, because you don’t have anything else better to do.
Hi, i’m new to this forum… So, can you tell me what makes one a PX “Groupie”?
Thanks![/quote]
With 10,000+ posts in less than 2 years you’re well on your way.[/quote]
Wow. What a dick! Imhungry doesn’t come in this forum much and mostly posts in other forums. Gee, you anti-bodybuilding guys sure do suck when it comes to hospitality. Imhungry just asked a simple question.
So, you guys don’t want to make progress OR explain your retarded personal issues.[/quote]
Thanks PX… And, no, I don’t normally post in here, just for the very reasons we’ve seen here.
I think that I might have to now, since i’m now considered a PX “groupie”.
Hi, i’m new to this forum… So, can you tell me what makes one a PX “Groupie”?
Thanks![/quote]
With 10,000+ posts in less than 2 years you’re well on your way.[/quote]
Wow. What a dick! Imhungry doesn’t come in this forum much and mostly posts in other forums. Gee, you anti-bodybuilding guys sure do suck when it comes to hospitality. Imhungry just asked a simple question.
So, you guys don’t want to make progress OR explain your retarded personal issues.[/quote]
Thanks PX… And, no, I don’t normally post in here, just for the very reasons we’ve seen here.
I think that I might have to now, since i’m now considered a PX “groupie”.
This could be fun.[/quote]
PX, just be careful with Imhungry swinging from your nuts-- he gots sharp claws.
This thread has passed well beyond “The Retarded Line” and is quickly heading toward “The Trainwreck Zone”.
Hi, i’m new to this forum… So, can you tell me what makes one a PX “Groupie”?
Thanks![/quote]
With 10,000+ posts in less than 2 years you’re well on your way.[/quote]
Wow. What a dick! Imhungry doesn’t come in this forum much and mostly posts in other forums. Gee, you anti-bodybuilding guys sure do suck when it comes to hospitality. Imhungry just asked a simple question.
So, you guys don’t want to make progress OR explain your retarded personal issues.[/quote]
Thanks PX… And, no, I don’t normally post in here, just for the very reasons we’ve seen here.
I think that I might have to now, since i’m now considered a PX “groupie”.
We should get dankid, RiVaL6, and Vektarm together to have a trollfest, and possibly kill each other off in the process. If it’s possible for someone to die in a catfight that is.
Hi, i’m new to this forum… So, can you tell me what makes one a PX “Groupie”?
Thanks![/quote]
With 10,000+ posts in less than 2 years you’re well on your way.[/quote]
Wow. What a dick! Imhungry doesn’t come in this forum much and mostly posts in other forums. Gee, you anti-bodybuilding guys sure do suck when it comes to hospitality. Imhungry just asked a simple question.
So, you guys don’t want to make progress OR explain your retarded personal issues.[/quote]
Thanks PX… And, no, I don’t normally post in here, just for the very reasons we’ve seen here.
I think that I might have to now, since i’m now considered a PX “groupie”.
This could be fun.[/quote]
PX, just be careful with Imhungry swinging from your nuts-- he gots sharp claws.
This thread has passed well beyond “The Retarded Line” and is quickly heading toward “The Trainwreck Zone”.
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[quote]dsdjd wrote:
I like starting with the clean…gets me into it more than lifting off a rack. more fun, more motivating, more kick ass. i don’t have a clue what’s “best”, but for me the clean and press is the best part of the day.[/quote]
You can just tell the guys who won’t be doing this in 5 years.
If you train “for fun”, I seriously don’t see you lasting. What the hell happens when it isn’t so “fun” anymore and becomes really hard work? What if waking up at 5 in the morning isn’t “fun” like it used to be?
Some of us are out to make progress, not turn the gym into our own entertainment center. Therefore, what is “best” is whatever way produces the most progress over a given amount of time.[/quote]
you really know your stuff when it comes to training, but why wont he last cus hes “having fun”…
you basing this off of guys youve seen over the years?or because hes having fun in combination with not training smart?
i have fun every time i train, its hard work but i like it…
[quote]trextacy wrote:
do both, like mariusz (not a bodybuilder but built like one)
What he’s doing there at the beginning are not presses though… Not really a shoulder strength/size lift as there is no actual pressing involved (gets the bar moving via leg drive and then dips down again to catch it at the top with arms locked out already). There is neither a controlled negative nor do the shoulders/tris do much at the turnaround.
The movement is designed to allow someone to move the most weight possible over their head… The shoulders (and tris) are the limiting muscle-groups there when getting the weight up, so they are taken out almost completely and only their static strength is used at the end of the movement.
He likely does those btn push jerks to help his actual events (technique) rather than build muscle and full ROM shoulder strength… That’s what the DB presses etc are for which he does afterwards.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
We should get dankid, RiVaL6, and Vektarm together to have a trollfest, and possibly kill each other off in the process. If it’s possible for someone to die in a catfight that is. [/quote]
I like the way you think, RiVal6 has me considering using the ignore function, but he’s like a train wreck you can’t look away from.
