[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:
[quote]dankid wrote:
No. Cause im not a fucking pussy like most here. [/quote]
I beg to differ. If you’ll recall, these were your lifts after 8(!) years in the gym:
Bench 190 x 8
Fr. squat 225 x 5
Dead 365 x 5
Push press 135 x 8
Pullup 240 x 5 or 190 x 12-15
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…how the fuck do you know that? Some of your undying devoting to discrediting others on this site is really… entertaining, for lack of better words.
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:
[quote]dankid wrote:
No. Cause im not a fucking pussy like most here. [/quote]
I beg to differ. If you’ll recall, these were your lifts after 8(!) years in the gym:
Bench 190 x 8
Fr. squat 225 x 5
Dead 365 x 5
Push press 135 x 8
Pullup 240 x 5 or 190 x 12-15
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…how the fuck do you know that? Some of your undying devoting to discrediting others on this site is really… entertaining, for lack of better words.
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He knows that because we recently had the debate where he stated that. It doesn’t exactly take Sherlock Holmes to read a post on the internet. If you are on this site and going to dankid for advice on how to build muscle, my guess is you have even bigger problems.
The smallest and weakest people on this site seem to be on a mission to make sure everyone else doesn’t pass them up.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
He knows that because we recently had the debate where he stated that.[/quote]
Fixed that for ya. With it cleaned up you don’t sound nearly as much the condescending character, trying for attention.
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
He knows that because we recently had the debate where he stated that.[/quote]
Fixed that for ya. With it cleaned up you don’t sound nearly as much the condescending character, trying for attention.[/quote]
You have one fragile sense of self, don’t you? You are the one who basically tried to make it seem as if the previous poster was strange for knowing what he did. How about less judgment from you or at least the ability to see your own faults while you try to correct everyone else?
You don’t bring much to the table, do you?
[quote]WideGuy wrote:
X bro you are cracking me up. It’s amazing you have the patience you do all this time. [/quote]
Don’t you get it? He’s a BODYBUILDER and this is the BODYBUILDING FORUM which is about BODYBUILDING.
The seated flame is much better for that, see? The standing flame is useless and must be mocked.
Volume and frequency are important too. If you don’t flame non-BODYBUILDERS frequently and reptitively, then you will never be a true BODYBUILDER who can rule the BODYBUILDING FORUM which is about BODYBUILDING.
BODY. BUILD.
[quote]dankid wrote:
bodybuilding isn’t all about building huge muscle
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Wut?
And I bet PLing isn’t all about having a big bench, squat and deadlift, huh?
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:
[quote]dankid wrote:
No. Cause im not a fucking pussy like most here. [/quote]
I beg to differ. If you’ll recall, these were your lifts after 8(!) years in the gym:
Bench 190 x 8
Fr. squat 225 x 5
Dead 365 x 5
Push press 135 x 8
Pullup 240 x 5 or 190 x 12-15
[/quote]
…how the fuck do you know that? Some of your undying devoting to discrediting others on this site is really… entertaining, for lack of better words.
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He posted it in one of his threads. His profile stated 8 years training at the time. He later amended that to “well, only 3 years seriously.”
I make no excuses for calling attention to this kind of thing, when the person in question makes himself out to be some sort of authority on weight lifting and bodybuilding, but is clearly just trying to aggrandize his weak ideas with terms and expressions he doesn’t really understand.
Some of us like it here and do not want to see the forum go to shit. Nobody is in the dark about people having different goals, but this place is supposed to be for people who bodybuild.
In short, people like dankid NEED to be discredited if this forum is to be taken seriously at all.
[quote]donovanbrambila wrote:
In bodybuilding, you do overhead pressing to build the delts. Doing exercises arbitrarily for the sake of doing them is just fucking stupid.
Good luck with your made up definition of bodybuilding. When you’re on stage, make sure you tell the judge that while you have shitty delt development, you overhead press, so you deserve to win. [/quote]
And the flawed reasoning continues. Cause we all know that most of the “bodybuilders” here ever have an intention of getting up on a stage.
And we know or a fact that standing overhead press is a “abitrary movement”
“But X said so, and all the big professional bodybuilders do them seated… wah wah wah…”
In bodybuilding anyone who cares or knows enough about their body knows that taking “unnecessary” risks… as in either cleaning… or just standing with that amount of heavy weight about your head, allows for all that lower back movement and just asking you to kill yourself. Its about looking good and developing… like the professor said… this is bodybuilding. NOT… power lifting.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
He knows that because we recently had the debate where he stated that.[/quote]
Fixed that for ya. With it cleaned up you don’t sound nearly as much the condescending character, trying for attention.[/quote]
You have one fragile sense of self, don’t you? You are the one who basically tried to make it seem as if the previous poster was strange for knowing what he did. How about less judgment from you or at least the ability to see your own faults while you try to correct everyone else?
You don’t bring much to the table, do you?[/quote]
Correcting? haha no. For someone to pull out someone else’s book of pr’s weather or not it was posted previously absolutely is strange. Your poor attempt at some sort of wit or humor is ironically quite a laugh though. “You don’t bring much to the table, do you?” I laughed for some bit as i read and retyped that.
[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
Hey dankid do you have any pics?[/quote]
Ya, ive got all kinda of pictures. Ive got pictures of girls, and pictures of boys. You strike me as a BOYS type of guy. I’ll send some over.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]dankid wrote:
bodybuilding isn’t all about building huge muscle
[/quote]
Wut?
And I bet PLing isn’t all about having a big bench, squat and deadlift, huh?[/quote]
Bodybuilding adds subjective judging whereas PL’ing is strictly objective. I see what you’re saying though, huge muscle is the main objective in bodybuilding.
[quote]Deorum wrote:
For someone to pull out someone else’s book of pr’s weather or not it was posted previously absolutely is strange. Your poor attempt at some sort of wit or humor is ironically quite a laugh though. “You don’t bring much to the table, do you?” I laughed for some bit as i read and retyped that.
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Deorum, I wouldn’t waste your time arguing with these guys (Unless you get humor out of it). The professor is always right, and anyone that agrees with him on ANYTHING is instantly a successful bodybuilder. Anything he disagrees with, is instantly discredited, no matter how knowledgeable or successful the other person is. This is not just an internet forum but a cult of man loving “bodybuilders” that will defend their messiahs to the grave.
Digging up my old stats is no big deal for these guys. They probably have it filed alphabetically in a huge drawer under their computers. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have some voyeur photos of me with my girlfriend, or my birth certificate in there.
No I argue with “them” to break boredom from time to time, and as much as I would respect Prof X more if he didn’t always seem like he is trying to prove himself to others, he is still a large man so some of his advice on how to get large is worth listening to.
I suggest you pick up a pair of dumbbells after you feel light headed and start spinning around real fast…
it hits all 7 heads of your deltoid…works your core and grip strength…its called the tornado lift…
[quote]D Public wrote:
I suggest you pick up a pair of dumbbells after you feel light headed and start spinning around real fast…
it hits all 7 heads of your deltoid…works your core and grip strength…its called the tornado lift…
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What rep range do you do for these?
Sitting down with back supported doesn’t make an exercise “safer” for the back.
[quote]dankid wrote:
[quote]donovanbrambila wrote:
In bodybuilding, you do overhead pressing to build the delts. Doing exercises arbitrarily for the sake of doing them is just fucking stupid.
Good luck with your made up definition of bodybuilding. When you’re on stage, make sure you tell the judge that while you have shitty delt development, you overhead press, so you deserve to win. [/quote]
And the flawed reasoning continues. Cause we all know that most of the “bodybuilders” here ever have an intention of getting up on a stage.
And we know or a fact that standing overhead press is a “abitrary movement”
“But X said so, and all the big professional bodybuilders do them seated… wah wah wah…”[/quote]
Do you realize how fucking stupid you sound? “All the big professional bodybuilders do them seated”. I’m not sure why you think that’s a bad thing. If I wanted to be a field goal kicker, I’d look at what pro kickers do. Like wise for any profession. Now, for some reason we shouldn’t look to pro bodybuilders when wondering how to bodybuild? You’re dumb.
Even if the people here have no intention of getting on stage (which would probably be because they don’t think they are ready) the goal of people here is to look like they could. If it’s not, they’re in the wrong forum.
If you’re overhead pressing for the sake of overhead pressing or because someone said do it, that is arbitrary. If you are standing OHPing for delt development, there are better choices, like sitting. If you are standing OHPing to be tough, then join a gang, kill a puppy, or whatever. If you are standing OHPing for athletic reasons, I suggest you learn how to read. This is a bodybuilding forum. “Athlete” starts with “a”. “Bodybuild” starts with “b”. That should clear things up.
[quote]sid132 wrote:
push presses for power standing
stricter delt work seated.
id take my advice from this man although i dont fancy catching 400+ pounds the way he does
Hard to argue with this! Best of both worlds?
[quote]donovanbrambila wrote:
[quote]dankid wrote:
[quote]donovanbrambila wrote:
In bodybuilding, you do overhead pressing to build the delts. Doing exercises arbitrarily for the sake of doing them is just fucking stupid.
Good luck with your made up definition of bodybuilding. When you’re on stage, make sure you tell the judge that while you have shitty delt development, you overhead press, so you deserve to win. [/quote]
And the flawed reasoning continues. Cause we all know that most of the “bodybuilders” here ever have an intention of getting up on a stage.
And we know or a fact that standing overhead press is a “abitrary movement”
“But X said so, and all the big professional bodybuilders do them seated… wah wah wah…”[/quote]
Do you realize how fucking stupid you sound? “All the big professional bodybuilders do them seated”. I’m not sure why you think that’s a bad thing. If I wanted to be a field goal kicker, I’d look at what pro kickers do. Like wise for any profession. Now, for some reason we shouldn’t look to pro bodybuilders when wondering how to bodybuild? You’re dumb.
Even if the people here have no intention of getting on stage (which would probably be because they don’t think they are ready) the goal of people here is to look like they could. If it’s not, they’re in the wrong forum.
If you’re overhead pressing for the sake of overhead pressing or because someone said do it, that is arbitrary. If you are standing OHPing for delt development, there are better choices, like sitting. If you are standing OHPing to be tough, then join a gang, kill a puppy, or whatever. If you are standing OHPing for athletic reasons, I suggest you learn how to read. This is a bodybuilding forum. “Athlete” starts with “a”. “Bodybuild” starts with “b”. That should clear things up.[/quote]
If I do seated presses for low reps, 4 or less, I get more strength benefits. If I do standing presses for sets of 8-10 reps I get more hypertrophy. It’s not rockets science as everyone hears know. Maybe its not whether you do seated or standing but how you utilize them.