[quote]Professor X wrote:
Goodness…there is a reason most of the big guys you see sit the fuck down when they do overhead presses.
Let me guess…it is more “functional” to stand up and do them.
[/quote]
Maybe he goes to a gym that doesnt have a place to do seated barbell military press? All my gym has is a squat rack so I have to do them standing. [/quote]
Same for me, all I have is the squat rack. I just take one of the bench thingies you can adjust the incline from the area with the DBs [obviously set it at the highest incline so your pretty much sitting up] and move that into the squat rack and do them there. Shouldn’t be a problem at all.
Or if you have a seated machine overhead press, so you can go to failure. Or do both.
EDIT: Somebody else already got to this before me. I really should read the whole thread before I post.
Im gonna disagree with prof x and some of the others (No surprise).
Why dont you learn to breath correctly, and build up you conditioning a bit so that you can handle doing the exercise without passing out.
Sure, you might not work your shoulders with as much weight INITIALLY, but the standing overhead press is a great lift.
If you are going to take prof x’s advice, you might as well stop squatting and deadlifting. These exercises are hard. Go with leg press and leg curls. No need to do anything hard, when you can get your whole workout sitting down.
[quote]dankid wrote:
Im gonna disagree with prof x and some of the others (No surprise).
Why dont you learn to breath correctly, and build up you conditioning a bit so that you can handle doing the exercise without passing out.
Sure, you might not work your shoulders with as much weight INITIALLY, but the standing overhead press is a great lift.
If you are going to take prof x’s advice, you might as well stop squatting and deadlifting. These exercises are hard. Go with leg press and leg curls. No need to do anything hard, when you can get your whole workout sitting down.[/quote]
You probably can stop squatting and deadlifting and build huge legs. What was his name…Do…Dor…Dorian Fuckin’ Yates!
Why is the overhead press a great lift? Why? Because it’s hard? Fuck that. Shitting a quarter is hard. Go try it. If you aren’t building big fucking shoulders with it, why do it? Cuz you hate progress? SOunds good.
I just find it funny so many people are arguing with Prof X about seated overhead presses. I don’t know a single big guy who does them standing consistently for size.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
I just find it funny so many people are arguing with Prof X about seated overhead presses. I don’t know a single big guy who does them standing consistently for size.[/quote]
seconded
x and bonez are right this shouldn’t even be a debate. Also for a beginner simply sitting and pressing the weight over-head is a lot easier than doing standing presses, it’s simple, sit and press shit over your head.
[quote]dankid wrote:
Im gonna disagree with prof x and some of the others (No surprise).
Why dont you learn to breath correctly, and build up you conditioning a bit so that you can handle doing the exercise without passing out.
Sure, you might not work your shoulders with as much weight INITIALLY, but the standing overhead press is a great lift.
If you are going to take prof x’s advice, you might as well stop squatting and deadlifting. These exercises are hard. Go with leg press and leg curls. No need to do anything hard, when you can get your whole workout sitting down.[/quote]
You may be the second biggest waste of bandwidth on the entire internet. You’re in close second to “SteroidsR4Losers” of youtube fame.
I have different goals than most of the people here.
I used to play football (Offensive Lineman at 6 foot 5 260 pounds) and am now trying to become more athletic to play rugby in college. So I personally am focusing on squats, deads, cleans, OH presses (standing) and conditioning.
So, my goals are different. I respect the hell out of some of the people here, I just have different goals than bodybuilding.
I have different goals than most of the people here.
I used to play football (Offensive Lineman at 6 foot 5 260 pounds) and am now trying to become more athletic to play rugby in college. So I personally am focusing on squats, deads, cleans, OH presses (standing) and conditioning.
So, my goals are different. I respect the hell out of some of the people here, I just have different goals than bodybuilding. [/quote]
Cool beans, but what does that have to do with this thread? Good luck with your goals though, in any event.
[quote]donovanbrambila wrote:
If you aren’t building big fucking shoulders with it, why do it? Cuz you hate progress? SOunds good.[/quote]
No. Cause im not a fucking pussy like most here. Who says you aren’t building muscle by doing them standing. The only thing that is obvious is that they are HARDER standing.
And just because you aren’t able to do as much weight DOES NOT mean you wont build as big of muscles. This is flawed reasoning.
And I dont care that all the big guys do them seated (which is not true). Ok, if your big do them seated, if your not do them standing.
The “advanced” guys on this site will disagree, but bodybuilding isn’t all about building huge muscle. Its about building a better body. And IMO a person that can do a standing press with 250lbs has a much “better” body than a person that can do the same weight seated.
Keep up with the flawed reasoning and pussy behaviors though. Thats what bodybuilding is all about for most here.
I have different goals than most of the people here.
I used to play football (Offensive Lineman at 6 foot 5 260 pounds) and am now trying to become more athletic to play rugby in college. So I personally am focusing on squats, deads, cleans, OH presses (standing) and conditioning.
So, my goals are different. I respect the hell out of some of the people here, I just have different goals than bodybuilding. [/quote]
Cool beans, but what does that have to do with this thread? Good luck with your goals though, in any event.
[/quote]
But yes, I kind of see your point, the post was slightly off topic, my fault, but I could see Professor X coming back with “I’m HUUGGGEE and you’re only 220 pounds with a 245 bench? You’re pathetic and are unworthy of being in my presence, what do you know about lifting?”
I don’t understand what all this flaming is about. Neither exercise is more “manly” than the other. Both clearly have the ability to strengthen the shoulders and make them bigger.
The simple truth is that standing OH presses can result in more injuries because your back isn’t supported, especially as load increases. The same can be said for back squats, deadlifts, etc.
If standing OH pressing works for you, keep doing them. For me, I feel it in my shoulders better while sitting, and I can focus on working my shoulders rather than thinking about keeping my core tight.
On a final note, keep in mind we’re in the Bodybuilding section of T-Nation, not the Fitness section of Men’s Health.
I like starting with the clean…gets me into it more than lifting off a rack. more fun, more motivating, more kick ass. i don’t have a clue what’s “best”, but for me the clean and press is the best part of the day.
