Overhead Press- I'm Seeing the Light

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[quote]dankid wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
all i know is that i would NEVER do my seated presses like the one of the fat fuck the OP used as an example of a seated overhead press. look at him… he’s a fat fuck, that isn’t even straight up and down. it’s an incline press. he’s not even using his sholderzzzzz. don’t get me started on the fact that he held his breath through most of that set. and what’s up with those things on his elbows?? that’s just cheating.

my vote is for standing overhead press. anything else is just cheating. [/quote]

I didn’t see that video before. It was a lot of weight, but not really a shoulder press. More of a hybrid incline/shoulder press. Its kinda silly for me to criticize the video, because he’s way stronger than me, but if he was a bodybuilder (which im assuming not) then he should also be coming down all the way.

The other problem about seated presses, is even with a 100% vertical bench, almost everyone will turn them into an incline bench. People are saying that they had to switch to seated because their back was arching too much on standing, but I’d bet a lot of money that these same people are arching their back a ton on seated presses. So it wasn’t that they NEEDED to switch to seated, but instead of getting stronger, they switched to convince themselves that more weight meant more strength.

And the biomechanics of a true vertical seated press are all screwed up, unless you use DB’s or a HS machine. On a standing pressyour head and torso are able to pivot out of the path of the bar, but with a seated press (unless you use a low backed bench) you are forced to change the bar path completely. For me, so far seated press has been most useful for lockouts starting above my head, but anything with more ROM and i’d prefer to do them standing.[/quote]

Fail.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

Fail.[/quote]

Ya that was definately my epic fail for the week. The care bear threw me off.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Did you really use your phone number as your handle?[/quote]

if you figure out the significance of the number, i’ll be impressed

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I know I am late getting to the scene, but by request here is the footage I was able to obtain of this thread:

Ignore the video title my producer must have mixed up labels, this is legit.

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[quote]934-8777 wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Did you really use your phone number as your handle?[/quote]

if you figure out the significance of the number, i’ll be impressed[/quote]

I give up…can’t figure it out.

To the other posts…so now we’re turning it into a machines vs free weights discussion? Wowwwww.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]934-8777 wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Did you really use your phone number as your handle?[/quote]

if you figure out the significance of the number, i’ll be impressed[/quote]

I give up…can’t figure it out.

To the other posts…so now we’re turning it into a machines vs free weights discussion? Wowwwww.[/quote]

Ignore clowncar, he is trying to piss people off.

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:
In my gym there is a direct correlation between pressing seated and being pseudo-bodybuilder pussy with proportionnate fat. I do them standing, I never tried seated, I will in the future but if would make me feel like them. takes too much athleticism to press standing up for them.
It’s my local gym, it doesnt mean anything ,whatever works for you.

maybe for an advanced guy seated is a best option but in general you see the correlation between as a beginner chosing the easiest option (seated) and getting nowhere because you are pussy. I am talking about the gym crowd in general not about the motivated guys like most of us.

Unrelated but the reason someone who is a big black dentist weight 300 lbs is because they take steroids. Being this big doesnt automatically make their advice or lack thereof better. I am not gonna use only machine for my training because it’ss crap. As a natural intermediate trainee I wont get anywhere doing leg presses instead of squat and not doing deadlifts. So maybe people can stop giving advice that are extrapolation of what works for their AAS user self to other people who are not in their situation
[/quote]

You talk too much.

Go accuse someone of using steroids to their face and see what happens. You would never because you are one of the top 10 biggest pussies on this site.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:

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You talk too much.

Go accuse someone of using steroids to their face and see what happens. You would never because you are one of the top 10 biggest pussies on this site.
[/quote]

Bonez you take steroids

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[quote]934-8777 wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Did you really use your phone number as your handle?[/quote]

if you figure out the significance of the number, i’ll be impressed[/quote]

Requiem for a Dream

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(ok I googled it)

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:
In my gym there is a direct correlation between pressing seated and being pseudo-bodybuilder pussy with proportionnate fat. I do them standing, I never tried seated, I will in the future but if would make me feel like them. takes too much athleticism to press standing up for them.
It’s my local gym, it doesnt mean anything ,whatever works for you.

maybe for an advanced guy seated is a best option but in general you see the correlation between as a beginner chosing the easiest option (seated) and getting nowhere because you are pussy. I am talking about the gym crowd in general not about the motivated guys like most of us.

Unrelated but the reason someone who is a big black dentist weight 300 lbs is because they take steroids. Being this big doesnt automatically make their advice or lack thereof better. I am not gonna use only machine for my training because it’ss crap. As a natural intermediate trainee I wont get anywhere doing leg presses instead of squat and not doing deadlifts. So maybe people can stop giving advice that are extrapolation of what works for their AAS user self to other people who are not in their situation
[/quote]

My advice to you is to avoid spreading false information like this about me in the future. I usually don’t care what people think, but then most people don’t act like you just did. First, I don’t weigh 300lbs. Second, I do not do anything illegal or take illegally gained steroids. What you are doing is called libel the moment you wrote that down on a public forum. Keep it up.

I know exactly what I look like and I know what most people probably think, but the moment you turn speculation into written word, the fault falls back on you as libel is so much easier to prove than slander.

Care to exchange your own personal information?

Clearly a man with the COURAGE to call me out from behind a computer screen won’t fear any recourse?

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[/quote]

You talk too much.

Go accuse someone of using steroids to their face and see what happens. You would never because you are one of the top 10 biggest pussies on this site.
[/quote]

Bonez you take steroids[/quote]

I have used AAS. I have never denied that.

You’re clearly too stupid to understand what my post was about.

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Jasmincar, I wouldn’t mess around with BONEZ, if I were you.
I’ve seen him cleaning people off the ground and breaking them in half, overhead. And snapping their necks with a twist of a finger, just like that. Over the internet.
He’s a cool dude. As usually most guys in here are that you don’t understand.

Anyway, my message is: you’re an idiot. And not because you’re a Canuck (I actually have relatives, there).
This song is dedicated to you:

Quit fucking around, people. Everything important has already been said. Build some muscle and do the dick waving in front of people you’d like to fuck.

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[quote]FattyFat wrote:
do the dick waving in front of people you’d like to fuck.
[/quote]
I have the terrible feeling that this is exactly what they are doing in this thread…

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
In my gym there is a direct correlation between pressing seated and being pseudo-bodybuilder pussy with proportionnate fat. I do them standing, I never tried seated, I will in the future but if would make me feel like them. takes too much athleticism to press standing up for them.
It’s my local gym, it doesnt mean anything ,whatever works for you.

maybe for an advanced guy seated is a best option but in general you see the correlation between as a beginner chosing the easiest option (seated) and getting nowhere because you are pussy. I am talking about the gym crowd in general not about the motivated guys like most of us.

Unrelated but the reason someone who is a big black dentist weight 300 lbs is because they take steroids. Being this big doesnt automatically make their advice or lack thereof better. I am not gonna use only machine for my training because it’ss crap. As a natural intermediate trainee I wont get anywhere doing leg presses instead of squat and not doing deadlifts. So maybe people can stop giving advice that are extrapolation of what works for their AAS user self to other people who are not in their situation
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id say it makes his advice that much better then anybody elses. very few make it from 140-150lbs or what ever he was all the way into the upper 200s where he proberly is at the moment and looking like you actually lift. to accomplish that without cycling makes it all the more impressive. especially the strength hes built along with it all

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There is no way to prove it, but I have a strong hunch that prof x is either:

a) Taking steroids now or in the past, whether or not they were “illegally gained”

OR

b) Has very good genetics for building muslce and was only skinny in the past because he didn’t eat

OR

c) Has very good fat distribution and is ~300lbs, but with 30+% BF.

I dont like Prof x. that is obvious. But his body is his body. If any of these scenarios are true thats fine with me. And his “success” which is HIS success has very little to do with credibility…

And really I have a strong hunch that its A.

I mean that would be like me sitting here saying im 100% natural and practice hard all the time and can hit more home runs than Mark Mgwire. But I dont play baseball. Really X, if you were natural and as big and as lean as you say, you’d be a competative natural bodybuilder.

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[quote]dankid wrote:

I mean that would be like me sitting here saying im 100% natural and practice hard all the time and can hit more home runs than Mark Mgwire. But I dont play baseball. Really X, if you were natural and as big and as lean as you say, you’d be a competative natural bodybuilder.[/quote]

Maybe he doesn’t want to compete just yet. Ever think of that?

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[quote]dankid wrote:

whiny, jealousy ridden, bullshit…

[/quote]

HOLY SHIT

JUST GO AWAY

YOU ARE A CANCER TO THIS FORUM

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jasmincar is a known troll. I like jasmincar because he’s entertaining and knows just how to be annoying, but for the rest of you - he’s JUST a troll. HALF the quebecois on this fucking site are trolls who don"t even lift: BBriere is the latest genius from that wretched, worthless waste of world space.

Tip: If they have a loose command over english and sound quebecois, JUST IGNORE the posters.

dankid isn’t a troll, he’s just a misfit looking for his niche.
He’s obviously weak as fuck, skinny fat (comapre his height, weight and lifts lol), poor (no-brainer), undereducated (anyone who looks for intellectual nourishment on a lifting forum ain’t packing any advanced degrees lol.

And no, this does not refer to actual biomechanics scientists who are supposed to get technical) and average looking (post history, argumentative, constantly wavering, trying to fit in and getting miffed everytime he’s rejected).

Take pity on dankid and ignore the waste of sperm with a smile. Seriously, you have no idea how rock-bottom this guy’s life already is.

OT, you guys were in a hurry to add its_just_me as a contributing member, look at his post history for fuck’s sake. He’s just a clueless skinny fat newbie who’s trying to fit in.

Distinguish between real lifters (bodybuilding OR powerlifting OR REAL fitness model OR anything else - Fatty,CC,PX,Marauder,JohnRoman), clueless but sincere (Artem), pretenders (its_just_me), forum fools (dankid), and trolls (90% of the quebecois).

And thats all i have to say about that.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[/quote]

You talk too much.

Go accuse someone of using steroids to their face and see what happens. You would never because you are one of the top 10 biggest pussies on this site.
[/quote]

Bonez you take steroids[/quote]

I have used AAS. I have never denied that.

You’re clearly too stupid to understand what my post was about. [/quote]

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]dankid wrote:

whiny, jealousy ridden, bullshit…

[/quote]

HOLY SHIT

JUST GO AWAY

YOU ARE A CANCER TO THIS FORUM [/quote]

LOL.

I wonder what it would take for this guy to gain some degree of self awareness. Maybe if we got CT, CW, Poliquin, Scott Abel and the Prophet Muhammad to co-author an article telling him how off base he is. Because the fact that every single forum member who’s made any kind of progress all say the same thing about him, doesn’t seem to even give him pause.

This forum needs more moderators and a stricter code of conduct.